1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 07 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 132       Contents:% Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM  Re: ANN: CSVSEARCH update  Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz4 Re:Can you change the Ethernet Address of a DE500??? Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: CSWB is not "secure" Re: Dead AS1000 4/266 CPU Board  Dead AS1000 4/266 CPU Board 2 Does DCPS 2.5 support lpd printing to Xerox DC400?6 Re: Does DCPS 2.5 support lpd printing to Xerox DC400? Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Multiple cluster aliases ?, Re: OpenVMS proves superior to all other OSs, Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-)- What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ? 1 Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ? 1 Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ? 1 Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ? 1 Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ? 1 Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:18:26 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>. Subject: Re: A nice enhancement to SHOW SYSTEM+ Message-ID: <475mi2Fe2s82U1@individual.net>    FredK wrote:< > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message( > news:440C9159.B467AAB0@teksavvy.com... >  >>"Steven M. Schweda" wrote: >> >>>>$ LICENSE DISABLE/WIDTH=n  >>>>???  >>> J >>>   I figured that it would be more important to get the qualifier added >>>everywhere now. >>H >>But this qualifier may not be consistent across all commands, consider? >>the following example that GUY PELEG is currently working on:  >> >>PIZZA/ORDER/WIDTH=12"  >>; >>In this case, it isn't about character width of a screen.  >>H >>and when they add /FONT to all the VMS commands, the width will becomeJ >>pixels because when you start using proportional fonts, you can't really- >>talk about width in "number of characters".  >  > E > Can't talk about pixels either, you need to talk about "points" and  > sub-pixel positioning. > K > So you want /FONT=(NewTimesRoman, 9, Regular).   The /WIDTH command would  > specify inches - like 8.5  >  > H Or centimetres/millimetres for the rest of the world. It soon gets more " complicated than at first thought.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:39:56 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> " Subject: Re: ANN: CSVSEARCH update* Message-ID: <440D54EC.7010309@goatley.com>  B Thanks to John Powers, a new version of CSVSEARCH can now be found in my VMS freeware archive.   "       Package:       csvsearch.zipE       Description:   Search comma-separated-variable (CSV) data files        Version:       V2.4-06        Author:        John Powers!       Architecture:  VAX,AXP,IA64        Size:          70 blocks       Language:      C,TPU
       URL:       Released:      2-MAR-2006   / This version includes a bug fix.  Thanks, John!    http://www.process.com/openvms/   9 ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/csvsearch.zip > http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/csvsearch.zip   And on the other mirrors.    --     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ B PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway for OpenVMS, Tru64, Solaris, & Linux9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:15:27 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <474qqeFduoomU1@individual.net>   * On 2006-03-07 02:35, "Hoff Hoffman" wrote:  c > In article <473k2mFdm6nlU1@individual.net>, Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> writes: G > :An "NVRAM" with a "backup battery"?? Or are NVRAM, RTC _and_ battery  > :moulded into a single case? > G >   Most any of the current systems use one of several clock chips, and E >   these have the console NVRAM and the battery on the same carrier. E >   The 23-034V7-00 part number is (or once was) the correct part for , >   this AlphaServer DS10 series clock chip.  G So it seems that what is called "NVRAM" here in reality is a small CMOS C SRAM integrated with the RTC on the same chip -- and moulded with a E lithium battery into a single package. (Which indeed is quite common. E But I really don't like the concept of combining a semiconductor chip D and a component with a rather limited lifetime in a single package.)  @ (A "non-volatile RAM" is a "poor man's flash memory": similar orA identical semiconductor technology, but limited capacity and only L equipped with a serial bus for communication with the host system, I2C e.g.)   > [...]  > H >   If you are not familiar with anti-static and safe component handlingE >   requirements, and with safe operations around potentially lethal  E >   voltages, I recommend refering the service work to an individual  F >   or organization that is familiar with and is trained for the task.   Agreed.    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 01:51:45 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)% Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz 2 Message-ID: <06030701514587_20331674@antinode.org>  3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com>    > [...] G > But I really don't like the concept of combining a semiconductor chip F > and a component with a rather limited lifetime in a single package.)  H    It's convenient for the designers, who, coincidentally, don't need to* replace the things when the batteries die.  J > >   If you are not familiar with anti-static and safe component handlingG > >   requirements, and with safe operations around potentially lethal  G > >   voltages, I recommend refering the service work to an individual  H > >   or organization that is familiar with and is trained for the task. > 	 > Agreed.   H    What a bunch of sissies?.  Ask your mother before removing the cover.G Until current prices fall by 90% or so, I may never see the inside of a G DS10, but the Internet is littered with instructions on how to carve up > the modules used in old Sun workstations, exposing the batteryF terminals.  My SPARCstation IPC (not used much these years) has one ofE those half-AA cells (common in old Macintoshes) glued onto the top of F its (carved-up) clock/NVRAM module, for example.  Worked just fine forF years at approximately no cost.  In the Sun systems, the thing is in aF socket, so it's easy to remove and mutilate.  As it's already no good,G there's a limit on how much damage you can do in a reclamation attempt.   A    Next, I suppose, after we're all wearing our anti-static wrist G straps, someone will be warning us not to yank memory modules while the * system is running.  Where will it all end?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:13:57 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz , Message-ID: <440D408C.AA62CB55@teksavvy.com>   Michael Unger wrote:G > But I really don't like the concept of combining a semiconductor chip E > and a component with a rather limited lifetime in a single package.     E Computers are built with obsolescence in mind. Who would have thought G that all mighty Microvax IIs would still be running 18 years after they H were built ?  If the DS10 requires a very proprietary battery unit, whatF will happen to people 5 years from now when there is no longer support or spare parts available  ?     B Note that the VAX 4000 series have the battery embedded inside theF console module. Changing it requires you diassemble the console moduleH to lift the PCB board out (and that means unscrewing all connectors fromA the console faceplate so you can pull the PCB board out) and that  exposes the batteries.  C (and yes, they use the same battery unit as the MVII, notably 3 AAA . nicads in series and a small 2 pin connector.)  E So with the 4000s one can still change the batteries with very simple  batteries.    D It also seems odd to me that DS10 designers would have chosen such aG design instead of what would appear to be a cheaper setup of having the A NVRAM phsycally on the motherboard as well as a simple pill/watch L battery like systems had been using for years before the DS10 were released.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:14:16 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz , Message-ID: <440D4EAB.CC37C07B@teksavvy.com>   "Steven M. Schweda" wrote:C >    Next, I suppose, after we're all wearing our anti-static wrist I > straps, someone will be warning us not to yank memory modules while the , > system is running.  Where will it all end?  G No, they'll warn you to make sure your wrist strat is actually attached E to the cabinet of the computer to ensure you are properly grounded... # wearing it isn't enough :-) :-) :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:14:58 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <475d9fFdsldbU1@individual.net>   / On 2006-03-07 08:51, "Steven M. Schweda" wrote:   5 > From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com>  >  >> [...]H >> But I really don't like the concept of combining a semiconductor chipG >> and a component with a rather limited lifetime in a single package.)  > J >    It's convenient for the designers, who, coincidentally, don't need to, > replace the things when the batteries die.  : Convenient: yes, space saving: perhaps, user-friendly: no.  K >> >   If you are not familiar with anti-static and safe component handling         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^H >> >   requirements, and with safe operations around potentially lethal H >> >   voltages, I recommend refering the service work to an individual I >> >   or organization that is familiar with and is trained for the task.  >>  
 >> Agreed. > % >    What a bunch of sissies?.  [...]   G *I* am quite familiar with these reqirements -- and probably a few more " people posting to this news group.  C >    Next, I suppose, after we're all wearing our anti-static wrist I > straps, someone will be warning us not to yank memory modules while the , > system is running.  Where will it all end?  F "Don't put your notebook onto your thigh -- this may result in serious3 injury due to the notebook's heat dissipation!" ;-)    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:24:46 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <475d9gFdsldbU2@individual.net>   & On 2006-03-07 10:14, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > "Steven M. Schweda" wrote:B >> Next, I suppose, after we're all wearing our anti-static wrist F >> straps, someone will be warning us not to yank memory modules while1 >> the system is running.  Where will it all end?  > @ > No, they'll warn you to make sure your wrist strat is actuallyD > attached to the cabinet of the computer to ensure you are properly1 > grounded... wearing it isn't enough :-) :-) :-)   G No, because the system is disconnected from the power outlet when being E serviced the cabinet isn't grounded any longer. You'll have to ensure F that (1) the system's cabinet and (2) you yourself are properly (i.e.,: via 1-2 MegOhms) connected to a suitable ground potential.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:15:46 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz / Message-ID: <QN-dnYtT-KzdLJDZRVn-tA@libcom.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Michael Unger wrote: > G >>But I really don't like the concept of combining a semiconductor chip E >>and a component with a rather limited lifetime in a single package.  >  >  > G > Computers are built with obsolescence in mind. Who would have thought I > that all mighty Microvax IIs would still be running 18 years after they J > were built ?  If the DS10 requires a very proprietary battery unit, whatH > will happen to people 5 years from now when there is no longer support > or spare parts available  ?  >  > D > Note that the VAX 4000 series have the battery embedded inside theH > console module. Changing it requires you diassemble the console moduleJ > to lift the PCB board out (and that means unscrewing all connectors fromC > the console faceplate so you can pull the PCB board out) and that  > exposes the batteries. > E > (and yes, they use the same battery unit as the MVII, notably 3 AAA 0 > nicads in series and a small 2 pin connector.) > G > So with the 4000s one can still change the batteries with very simple 
 > batteries.   > F > It also seems odd to me that DS10 designers would have chosen such aI > design instead of what would appear to be a cheaper setup of having the C > NVRAM phsycally on the motherboard as well as a simple pill/watch N > battery like systems had been using for years before the DS10 were released.  , Compaq/HP wants you riding the itanic, ASAP!   Burn those bridges!  Sink those boats!  Ride the good ship itanic!   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:45:33 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz 2 Message-ID: <1FjPf.4198$Am7.4158@news.cpqcorp.net>  H   I've been at this long enough to realize I have to read the directionsK   for many new systems I work on -- that I can't depend on what I currently +   know about hardware and hardware repair.    J   Given Risks Digest, the Darwin awards and my side jobs, I've encounteredG   enough folks -- from neophyte to expert -- that have gotten caught by J   inexperience, invalid assumptions, carelessness or even plain "bad luck"F   -- that have been seriously injured or even killed.  Being Dead is aG   persistent state, and it can sometimes be rather surprisingly easy to A   transition into that state within the state table that is life.   E   So yes, I prefer to include what I believe are appropriate caveats, F   including risks to the hardware and to the person that is working onH   the hardware.  I've dealt with more than enough folks in the end-state   over the years.   E   As for swapping batteries, they inevitably fail -- what you have to G   swap -- a cell or a chip carrier,  -- isn't a big deal.  Avoiding the F   need for charging circuitry is certainly a nice benefit to the newerG   carriers, though.  And RTG-based technology wasn't an option for the  E   AlphaServer DS10 series BB_WATCH power supply -- though it would be H   nifty to have something that was both a power supply and a time-base. /   <http://www.id.doe.gov/NEWS/Pluto_L.htm>  :-)     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:35:03 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> % Subject: Re: Battery for DS10/466 MHz + Message-ID: <475uo1Fe2docU1@individual.net>   D On 2006-03-06 21:52, "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" wrote:  < > I am assuming this is the clock battery pn: DALLAS DS12887 > " > We have them in stock for $19.95   Quoting from the datasheet:   ? | The devices provide a real-time clock/calendar, [...] and 114 ? | bytes of battery-backed static RAM (113 bytes in the DS12C887 $            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= | and DS12C887A). The DS12887 integrates a quartz crystal and ? | lithium energy source into a 24-pin encapsulated DIP package.    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ < | [...] For all devices, the date at the end of the month is< | automatically adjusted for months with fewer than 31 days,8 | including correction for leap years. [...] A precision= | temperature-compensated circuit monitors the status of VCC. B | If a primary power failure is detected, the device automatically$ | switches to a backup supply. [...]  4 <http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2680>   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:15:45 +0100( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>= Subject: Re:Can you change the Ethernet Address of a DE500??? 3 Message-ID: <001e01c641b6$f3eaea30$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,F does the DE500 not contain an address ship? Usually you could exchangeB this address ship. AFAIK modern interfaces have a programmable MACE address. You have to use a PC to change the MAC. I did found this URL   (how to change the MAC address):. http://www.nthelp.com/NT6/change_mac_w2k.htm . Best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 06:18:18 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> ! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" ( Message-ID: <440D6BFA.10409@comcast.net>   John Santos wrote:E > Someone whose initials are almost SWS suggested playing around with G > profiles (under the Tools menu), and I made a new profile which seems G > to work fine.  I did lose all my saved mail, newsgroup settings, etc. B > (all still there under the old profile, so I haven't really lostJ > anything), but this is major progress.  Each profile seems to correspondG > to a directory tree under SYS$LOGIN:[._MOZILLA]  Maybe a corrupt file C > in the old tree, or maybe some odd setting somewhere.  (If it's a < > preference setting, it sure is a bad way of reporting it.)  C I've run into similar problems with earlier versions of Mozilla on  ) Windows; creating a new profile did help.   H To avoid problems related to creating new profiles, I changed the "Mail G and Newsgroup Preferences" in such a way that my MAIL and NEWS folders  C are sub-folders directly under my "parent" folder, rather than the  D (ugly) default behavior of sticking them six levels down underneath G folders with un-pronounceable names (certainly the worst feature of an  D otherwise good browser).  I can't stop SWB from creating these ugly 6 directory trees, but I don't have to use them, either. :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:39:50 GMT 0 From: John Santos <john.santos@post.harvard.edu>! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" > Message-ID: <MPG.1e7773519e145842989704@news.bellatlantic.net>  I In article <440CEB90.150090C@teksavvy.com>, jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com   says...  > John Santos wrote:F > > The "S" is supposed to stand for "Secure" and they make a big deal= > > about how this means it supports SSL.  So WTF doesn't it?  > 3 > You may be missing some logical name definition ?  > J > Have you tried to use SET WATCH FILE to figure out what that applicationG > is trying to access ? It may give a clue on where it expects some SSL  > shareable image to be. >   E It was trying to access (0,0,0) and getting an error 910, repeatedly.   G Assuming (0,0,0) is a FID, and error 910 is "file not found", a logical F name issue seemed likely.  However, I got it to work by playing aroundD with profiles.  Maybe there is a missing file in my original profileI directory tree?  Of course, there are tons of files with non-descriptive  0 names, so finding a missing file is non-trivial.   --   John   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:05:21 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk! Subject: Re: CSWB is not "secure" ) Message-ID: <dukb01$c28$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   N In article <ops50xsx0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:D >On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 01:46:33 GMT, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote: > " >> Has anyone ever seen this work? >>+ >You may wish to consider upgrading to WASD   M The problem he has is with CSWB ie the HP version of the Mozilla browser not  . SWS - the HP version of the Apache web server.    
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2006 08:17:31 -0800  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk( Subject: Re: Dead AS1000 4/266 CPU BoardC Message-ID: <1141748251.843387.189280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   A My first option for a replacement board (in the UK) would be Phil ) Dombey at Abacus Computing, near Reading. F As far as testing at a component level, no idea.  Does anyone do this?   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2006 08:05:22 -0800 ' From: "syslost" <wm.reynolds@gmail.com> $ Subject: Dead AS1000 4/266 CPU BoardC Message-ID: <1141747522.286024.154490@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   . AlphaServer 1000 4/266  OpenVMS 7.3-1 Pedastal  E The system was running, I left it for the night, and the next morning 
 the screenC was frozen.  The console is hooked up through a KVM, which I reset. 
 System was
 still frozen.   B A reset from the front panel switch would go through (the activityG lights would light and then go out) the hard drives, cdrom, and floppy. D  No display on the OCP or the console (now connected directly to the$ Alpha, bypassing the kvm). No beeps.  D I do have a second system, AS1000 4/233.  I took the processor board out of the 233  A and installed in the 266.  This time the drive, cdrom, and floppy G activity lights cycle, then the OCP displays "eb" and stops there.  The C Service Manual states this is a "speed error detected  CPU daughter  board".   F When I put the 266 board in the 233 system it behaves just like it did in the 266 system.   Assumptions:& The OCP display on the 266 is working.- Something on the 266 CPU board has a problem.     B Anyone know how to go about testing the CPU board at the componentG level?  The Service manual I found is a field service manual and geared  towards board swaps.  : Or does anyone have 266 CPU Board (54-23297-04) for cheap?   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2006 03:23:43 -0800 % From: "snaxau" <alw1746@yahoo.com.au> ; Subject: Does DCPS 2.5 support lpd printing to Xerox DC400? B Message-ID: <1141730623.664163.28260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  D I installed DCPS 2.5 on a 7.3-2 Alpha but failed to print to a XeroxF DocuCenter 400 using lpd. Queue stops as soon as the job is submitted.B Job then hangs in pending state. Web searches indicate that lpd toD Xerox does not work with DCPS 2.4 and below, but is it fixed in 2.5?  D I'm also wondering if it is a network issue, the printer is behind a? firewall but port 515 is configured to permit bidirectional tcp E traffic. The fw logs do show lpd packets received thru port 515 and I G can print with WinXP to the Xerox using lpd (XP is also behind the fw).   E Alternatively, has anyone tried using dec tcpip lpd to print to Xerox  DC400 printers?    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:41:12 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>? Subject: Re: Does DCPS 2.5 support lpd printing to Xerox DC400? 5 Message-ID: <070320061345449727%paul.anderson@hp.com>   B In article <1141730623.664163.28260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,$ snaxau <alw1746@yahoo.com.au> wrote:  F > I installed DCPS 2.5 on a 7.3-2 Alpha but failed to print to a Xerox= > DocuCenter 400 using lpd. Queue stops as soon as the job is C > submitted. Job then hangs in pending state. Web searches indicate D > that lpd to Xerox does not work with DCPS 2.4 and below, but is it > fixed in 2.5?   E You should turn on DCPS LPD spooling, a new feature in DCPS V2.5, for ? the queue.  Non-spooled queues will not work with this printer.   F Additionally, there is some code in DCPS V2.5 for specific features ofC the Xerox DocumentCentre series, but it is not fully tested and not . supported.  Define the following logical name:  7    $ DEFINE /SYSTEM /EXEC DCPS$queuename_PRODUCT_NAME -     _$ "Xerox DocumentCentre"  : What is the exact model name of the printer you are using?   Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 07:21:36 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)$ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS2 Message-ID: <06030707213627_20331674@antinode.org>  # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com>   ? > I've never had a problem with it, and I've earned a few hats.   1    So, I suppose that you've never seen this one:    system unavailable  < The system is currently unavailable. Please try again later.   wpa-pl-wpaframework-10000      As in:  ] <!-- Put the message in, the message is specified by the uiMsgKey stored in ErrorInfoBean --> = The system is currently unavailable.  Please try again later.    <BR><BR>   <!-- Finally, add errorCode -->  <I>  wpa-pl-wpaframework-10000    </I>   	</td> 	<!-- End Content Area --> 	<!--stopindex-->     F    Yeah, it probably never happens.  Move along.  Nothing to see here, folks.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:51:51 -05000 From: "Steven W." <vmstech-nospam@rivrgroup.com>$ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS/ Message-ID: <dDkPf.28$XO3.1031@news.uswest.net>   h "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message news:1141745399.255130.25390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...G > Yes those forums are irritatingly flaky at times but for me they work D > most of the time and the high signal to noise ratio makes it worth' > putting up with the occational glich.  > E > The points thing does get out of hand at times - just don't take it  > seriously.  < It's the only forum I know where "me to" gets points :) ....   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 04:51:59 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Multiple cluster aliases ? , Message-ID: <440D57BE.7E2E617B@teksavvy.com>  B The TCPIP Services on VAX (5.3) only support one cluster alias IP.  H What I would like to have is a set of "dynamic" IPs that are attached to a service as opposed to a node.    so:   2 each node in the cluster would have a base address   node10 -> 10.0.0.10  node11 -> 10.0.0.11  node12 -> 10.0.0.12   B But the NAT router would be configured to send port 80 requests to, 10.0.0.80, port 25 requests to 10.0.025 etc.  G $ ifconfig ez0 aliaslist 10.0.0.80  seems to work to make a node accept  incoming traffic to .80     G Ok, so would it be possible to have a small application running on each F node that uses locks to assert their presence and  then use a table toF decide which of the nodes currently present should have a certain IP ?G Then, when one node leaves, this is recalculated and another node takes 2 over the IP alias(es) that the departing node had.  E This way, node1 could handle WWW, node2 could handle FTP, node3 could F handle telnet and SMTP.  If any node fails, the remmaining nodes wouldH use a table to determine which shoudl take over the tasks (IPs) that the; departing node had. When node1 rejoins, it would then force G recalculation of which node shoudl have whcih IP and node1 would regain  its former IPs.   
 Questions:  ? Is there a limit on the number of aliases that can be created ?   C Does ifconfig <interface> aliastlist <ip> work on all platforms for E multiple IP addresses or is this something which is no longer working = this way on Alpha TCPIP that has the IP failover mechanisms ?   @ I assume there is no callable interface to ifconfig and that theH application would have to spawn a subrpocess evertime it needs to update
 the IP list ?    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2006 13:53:25 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)5 Subject: Re: OpenVMS proves superior to all other OSs + Message-ID: <475hilFduc8cU2@individual.net>   + In article <440CF1CD.B406690D@comcast.net>, 5 	David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  > JF Mezei wrote:  >>   >> David J Dachtera wrote:L >> > ...by rather a round-about path, perhaps. Likely, the car "phones home"D >> > to the mfr. with some diagnostic code. The mfr.'s computer thenK >> > translates that into something human-readable and invites the owner to - >> > bring the car in to the dealer/shop/etc.  > G > Now that I think about it, not really very different from the various D > "phone home" facilities that many products use to inform the field- > service organization of an impending issue.  > K >> I just realised the orwelian implications of this. And it is interesting * >> that GM is bragging about this service. > A > Probably an optional service with an annual subscription. Don't  > subscribe if it troubles you.   E Like my wife (who couldn't understand why I told her if we ever got a H car with OnStar the first thing I would do would be rip it out) you seemI to have missed the most important point.  They control it, not you.  Just F because you opted not to pay for the service that benefits you doesn'tF mean they won't utilize the parts that might benefit them.  Unless, ofI course, you trust them. (Just because your paranoid doesn't mean everyone  isn't out to get you!)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 6 Mar 2006 23:22:00 -0800 + From: "Dr. Dweeb" <comp.os.vms@hotmail.com> 5 Subject: Re: Rich Marcello in VMS mention shocker :-) C Message-ID: <1141716120.639866.231320@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   D 1: Fiduciary responsibility to shareholders is usually stipulated inC companies legislation.  Legislation is the province of politicians.   = 2: The advisory and executive boards - that is their mandate.   	 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:39:09 +0000 / From: "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> 6 Subject: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?4 Message-ID: <dujrcu$ca4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>  " I can't access it at all today ...   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:19:46 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>: Subject: Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?= Message-ID: <CTePf.94464$Q22.22562@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    R.A.Omond wrote:$ > I can't access it at all today ...  G Hmm, neither can I. Once upon a time it was a VMS cluster. Then it was  J just a single machine. Is it still even VMS? I haven't checked in a while. --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2006 13:50:57 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER): Subject: Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?* Message-ID: <440d8fc1@news.langstoeger.at>  f In article <dujrcu$ca4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> writes:# >I can't access it at all today ...   	 So do I.     $ traceroute 161.114.65.60 ... L  7  wien-s2-rou-1002.AT.eurorings.net (134.222.123.149)  20 ms  30 ms  20 msK  8  mchn-s1-rou-1002.DE.eurorings.net (134.222.228.45)  30 ms  50 ms  30 ms K  9  ffm-s1-rou-1002.DE.eurorings.net (134.222.230.226)  40 ms  40 ms  40 ms G 10  obl-rou-1003.NL.eurorings.net (134.222.230.29)  50 ms  50 ms  40 ms N 11  nyk-s1-rou-1003.US.eurorings.net (134.222.230.102)  120 ms  120 ms  120 msK 12  sl-gw40-nyc-0-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.182.129)  120 ms  120 ms  130 ms J 13  sl-bb20-nyc-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.51)  120 ms  130 ms  120 msK 14  sl-bb27-nyc-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.153)  120 ms  130 ms  120 ms L 15  sl-bb20-spr-10-1.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.126)  120 ms  130 ms  120 msI 16  sl-gw7-spr-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.21.77)  120 ms  130 ms  120 ms E 17  sl-hp1-5-0.sprintlink.net (144.223.81.98)  130 ms  220 ms  210 ms 	 18  * * * 	 19  * * *   I http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.openvms.compaq.com E http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://openvms.compaq.com    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:16:50 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>: Subject: Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?= Message-ID: <6JfPf.122361$DM.36680@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:h > In article <dujrcu$ca4$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> writes: > $ >>I can't access it at all today ... >  >  > So do I.   >  > $ traceroute 161.114.65.60  $ It's back now. Wonder what happened.   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:08:36 +0100( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>: Subject: Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?3 Message-ID: <000601c641f9$01ec3fc0$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,G I did not have any problem to go to this page. A little bit slowly, but  arrival. Best regards R. Wingert G P.S. May be there is a difference between access from Germany and other  sides of the world   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:13:35 GMT , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>: Subject: Re: What's up with http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ?2 Message-ID: <PiiPf.4194$lk7.3800@news.cpqcorp.net>  G there was a network issue between the server and the rest of the world.   K I fixed that by messing up the server (ie the folks what fix networks fixed . networks while I was trying to figure out whatL was wrong and I goofed up and forgot to re-mount the disk that the doc files4 sit on, don't ask how it got unmounted to begin with1 cause that story is even worse than this one :-).    -warren   : "R.A.Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote in message. news:duk11e$dfa$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... > R.A.Omond wrote: > & > > I can't access it at all today ... > A > Well, it seems to be back up.  But trying to get to the on-line  > documentation gives: >  >  > Forbidden E > You don't have permission to access /doc/index.html on this server.  > 4 > Apache/1.3.26 Server at h71000.www7.hp.com Port 80 >  >  > What a mess ...    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.132 ************************