1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 08 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 134       Contents:. Announcement - HP and Intel Development forums, Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS B Important OpenVMS update kit needed for AM GUI performance over IPF Re: Important OpenVMS update kit needed for AM GUI performance over IP Re: is this a DECTERM ?  Just wondering Re: Just wondering Re: Just wondering, Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? MASS-11 Software Re: Multiple cluster aliases ?H Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90.H Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90.H Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90.- Re: OpenVMS Boot Camp Update - Week of Feb 27  Re: Press releases from Oracle2 Re: Users and Technology (was: Re: Just wondering) Re: yacc C code for openVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 08:11:08 -0800 ) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> 7 Subject: Announcement - HP and Intel Development forums C Message-ID: <1141834268.010859.275310@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   ? HP and Intel have created a special training program to support D software development on HP Integrity servers. For a special price of $2,000, you will receive: F three days of interactive lectures and proctored hands-on labs from HP and Intel experts @ an HP Integrity rx2620 server built on the Intel=AE Itanium=AE 2	 processor ? the operating system of your choice (HP-UX 11i, Linux (64-bit),   OpenVMS, or Windows Server 2003); 1 yr license for the Intel Software Development Tools Suite = Developer Resources for Intel Itanium 2 microarchitecture DVD ? In addition, once your port is completed you will also receive: G eligibility to take advantage of a host of go-to-market (GTM) resources A to drive your Intel=AE Itanium=AE 2-based HP Integrity server and  software business ) entry onto the ISV Integrity Solutions CD 7 entry into the HP ISV application availability database G one collateral piece jointly branded with your company and HP and Intel    Dates and Locations: Dallas, Texas April 4-6, 2006  Seattle, WA June 13-15, 2006' Peabody (Boston), MA August 22-24, 2006  Atlanta, GA October, 2006 - TBD   B The total value of the many benefits of the HP and Intel DeveloperG Workshop is valued at over $20,000!!!   Register now for the HP-UX 11i, > Red Hat Linux (64-bit), OpenVMS or Windows Server 2003 tracks.' www.hp.com/go/itaniumdeveloperworkshops    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 07:21:58 -0800 1 From: "pcoviello@gmail.com" <pcoviello@gmail.com> 5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure B Message-ID: <1141831318.775041.47450@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>  G Hi David, I double checked and it is correct, see below and the results , with putting the date in 2 different ways...  . so I'm confused by this :-) I know nothing new  B  $ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date dd-mmm-yyyy"= $ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"2 $ start_date = f$cvtime(P1, "comparison", "date" )0 $ end_date = f$cvtime(P2, "comparison", "date" )   $  $ any_files = "FALSE"  $ loop: ! $       file = f$search ( "*.*" ) + $       if file .eqs. "" then goto end_loop 5 $       file_date = f$file_attributes ( file, "RDT" ) @ $       file_date = f$cvtime ( file_date, "comparison", "date" ). $       if file_date .ges. start_date  .and. -"            file_date .le. end_date $       then< $           name = f$parse ( file,,, "name", "syntax_only" ); $           ext = f$parse ( file,,, "type", "syntax_only" ) $ $           simple_name = name + ext $           any_files = "TRUE"  
 results 1:& $ @phclaimtest 01-oct-2005 01-nov-2005 $!, $! P1 = start date in the dd-mmm-yyyy format* $! P2 = end date in the dd-mmm-yyyy formatA $! P3 = month to be processed (name of subdirectory on target FTP  server)  $!A $ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"= $ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"2 $ start_date = f$cvtime(P1, "comparison", "date" )0 $ end_date = f$cvtime(P2, "comparison", "date" )   $  $ any_files = "FALSE"  $ loop: ! $       file = f$search ( "*.*" ) + $       if file .eqs. "" then goto end_loop 5 $       file_date = f$file_attributes ( file, "RDT" ) @ $       file_date = f$cvtime ( file_date, "comparison", "date" ). $       if file_date .ges. start_date  .and. -"            file_date .le. end_date $       then< $           name = f$parse ( file,,, "name", "syntax_only" ); $           ext = f$parse ( file,,, "type", "syntax_only" ) $ $           simple_name = name + ext $           any_files = "TRUE" $     
 results 2:$ $ @phclaimtest 2005-10-01 2005-11-01 $!, $! P1 = start date in the dd-mmm-yyyy format* $! P2 = end date in the dd-mmm-yyyy formatA $! P3 = month to be processed (name of subdirectory on target FTP  server)  $!A $ if P1 .eqs. "" then Inquire start_date "Please Enter Start Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"= $ if P2 .eqs. "" then Inquire end_date "Please Enter End Date  dd-mmm-yyyy"2 $ start_date = f$cvtime(P1, "comparison", "date" )C %DCL-W-IVATIME, invalid absolute time - use DD-MMM-YYYY:HH:MM:SS.CC  format
  \2005-10-01\ 0 $ end_date = f$cvtime(P2, "comparison", "date" )C %DCL-W-IVATIME, invalid absolute time - use DD-MMM-YYYY:HH:MM:SS.CC  format
  \2005-11-01\    $  $ any_files = "FALSE"  $ loop: ! $       file = f$search ( "*.*" ) + $       if file .eqs. "" then goto end_loop 5 $       file_date = f$file_attributes ( file, "RDT" ) @ $       file_date = f$cvtime ( file_date, "comparison", "date" ). $       if file_date .ges. start_date  .and. -= %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling 
  \START_DATE\ "            file_date .le. end_date $       then@ %DCL-E-INVIFNEST, invalid IF-THEN-ELSE nesting structure or data
 inconsistency  $    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:47:51 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS; Message-ID: <HvzPf.60898$g47.14127@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:  % > From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com>  > ? >>I've never had a problem with it, and I've earned a few hats.  >  > 3 >    So, I suppose that you've never seen this one:  >  > system unavailable > > > The system is currently unavailable. Please try again later. >  > wpa-pl-wpaframework-10000   H Of course VMS would be more reliable.  I tend to think most outages are  network related.     >  >  > As in: > _ > <!-- Put the message in, the message is specified by the uiMsgKey stored in ErrorInfoBean --> ? > The system is currently unavailable.  Please try again later.  > 
 > <BR><BR> > ! > <!-- Finally, add errorCode -->  > <I>  > wpa-pl-wpaframework-10000  >  > </I> >  > 	</td> > 	<!-- End Content Area --> > 	<!--stopindex-->  >  > H >    Yeah, it probably never happens.  Move along.  Nothing to see here, > folks. > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 6 >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98185 >    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org  >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:50:56 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS; Message-ID: <AyzPf.60899$g47.44470@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>    Steven W. wrote:  ^ > "Ian Miller"  wrote in message news:1141757806.191567.193630@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... >  >  >>me too :-) >  > 3 > 6 Points :)  Just need a few more for your cap :)  >  > I What is really good about it is you can ask about 3rd party products, as  H well as VMS questions. People like Hoffman and Hopkins (the developer of2 XFC do participate) and many knowledgeable people.  I There are no nuts like we find here.  They do get removed. The signal to  1 noise ratio is better, like the old Eisner crowd.   8 The points are used as a symbol and a motivating factor.   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:23:56 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)$ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS2 Message-ID: <06030806235597_2020036B@antinode.org>  # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com>    > > system unavailable > > @ > > The system is currently unavailable. Please try again later. > >  > > wpa-pl-wpaframework-10000  > I > Of course VMS would be more reliable.  I tend to think most outages are  > network related.  ;    They may be, but when it _tells_ me that it's "currently C unavailable", then I claim that the problem is not with the network  between it and me.  : > The points are used as a symbol and a motivating factor.  D    Thanks for the explanation (of the bleedin' obvious).  Of course,G they also motivate point chasers to post replies of minimal utility, as F almost everyone gives more than zero points to almost any response, no matter how useless.   L > There are no nuts like we find here.  They do get removed.  The signal to 3 > noise ratio is better, like the old Eisner crowd.   F    Postings like these, here, may be part of the reason for the betterH signal-to-noise ratio there.  It's a battle between the garbage from theD screwballs here and the "you need to give out some points" reminders there.  What a world, ...   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 06:48:20 -0600 B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)$ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS3 Message-ID: <EFcMOEGx5bhA@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <AyzPf.60899$g47.44470@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> writes:  > K > There are no nuts like we find here.  They do get removed. The signal to  3 > noise ratio is better, like the old Eisner crowd.  >   D I don't know if you are aware, but Eisner is still going. And yes, IH agree - even when there are disagreements on various subjects on Eisner,< the discussion does tend to remain respectful and civilised.   Simon.   --  ; Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP I If Google's motto is "do no wrong", then how did we get Google Groups 2 ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:17:12 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS; Message-ID: <IcFPf.61303$g47.43895@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>    Simon Clubley wrote:  c > In article <AyzPf.60899$g47.44470@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> writes:  > K >>There are no nuts like we find here.  They do get removed. The signal to  3 >>noise ratio is better, like the old Eisner crowd.  >> >  > F > I don't know if you are aware, but Eisner is still going. And yes, IJ > agree - even when there are disagreements on various subjects on Eisner,> > the discussion does tend to remain respectful and civilised. >  > Simon.D Yes, Eisner is still there, I remain a moderator, but there is very H little activity. The ITRC's are much more active.  Certainly, political  discussions are better here. >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:07:33 GMT 0 From: "Barry Kierstein" <Barry.Kierstein@HP.Com>K Subject: Important OpenVMS update kit needed for AM GUI performance over IP 1 Message-ID: <pbEPf.4286$Ec.2433@news.cpqcorp.net>   9 There is a very important OpenVMS update kit that must be 6 installed so that the performance of the Data Analyzer6 display over IP functions at full speed.  Without this2 udpate kit, the GUI performance is extremely slow.  : Below is an edited output from $ PRODUCT SHOW PRODUCT/FULL- showing the update on an Alpha V7.3-2 system:   ; ---------------------- ----------- ------------ ----------- ; PRODUCT                KIT TYPE    STATE        MAINTENANCE ; ---------------------- ----------- ------------ ----------- , DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-2  Oper System Installed;                               DEC AXPVMS VMS732_UPDATE V4.0 ; ---------------------- ----------- ------------ -----------   ; The UPDATE kit is applicable from V7.3-1 of OpenVMS through 1 V8.2.  V8.2-1 includes the code from this update.   9 The Availability Manager download page will be updated to  include this information.    Barry Kierstein  Availability Manager OpenVMS Engineering    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 16:32:03 -0000* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>O Subject: Re: Important OpenVMS update kit needed for AM GUI performance over IP 2 Message-ID: <dun0u3$mii$1@blackmamba.itd.rl.ac.uk>  , "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message = news:1141835002.681583.237190@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...     > which patch in the UPDATE kit?   GRAPHICS, I guess.     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:03:24 -0000 / From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>   Subject: Re: is this a DECTERM ?0 Message-ID: <120tlgsh2rlg987@corp.supernews.com>  $ Fred Zwarts <F.Zwarts@kvi.nl> wrote:b > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:43FAFBF5.63D7C8F@teksavvy.com...J >> Goal: if a connection comes from an X terminal/DECTERM, I want DCL codeJ >> to execute various command that set EDIT to spanw/nowait the decwindowsK >> TPU editor. If it is a true blue (or orange :-) VT terminal, then I just A >> setup my commands to call up the basic character cell TPU/EVE.   % > Why only for X terminal or DECTERM? < > There are more terminal emulators that support DECwindows.H > I frequently use PuTTY from my Windows PC to login on to VMS with SSH.  E One problem with PuTTY is that its wrapping behavior differs from the G DEC terminals.  (If you don't mind occasionally repainting your screen, D it doesn't matter, of course).  The keyboard (especially the numeric# keypad) is a bigger problem (ymmv).    --   Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net  ftp://invisible-island.net   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 07:48:19 -0800  From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net Subject: Just wondering C Message-ID: <1141832899.372873.167580@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   C I wonder how many top exec at HP have a VMS system in their house??  Image if a top@ HP offical came out and said "For both office and home use I use OpenVMS" Just thinking!!! phillip    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:39:29 -0500* From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> Subject: Re: Just wondering , Message-ID: <440f08c5$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  + <tomarsin2015@comcast.net> wrote in message = news:1141832899.372873.167580@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... E > I wonder how many top exec at HP have a VMS system in their house??  > Image if a topB > HP offical came out and said "For both office and home use I use
 > OpenVMS" > Just thinking!!!  L Frankly, most "Top Execs" probably almost never touch a computer themselves., That is why they have executive secretaries.  I At last report, Ken Olsen had still never logged onto a computer himself.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:00:41 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> Subject: Re: Just wondering = Message-ID: <Z4EPf.96282$Q22.90796@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    FredK wrote:  K > At last report, Ken Olsen had still never logged onto a computer himself.   = http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/comphist/olsen.html   G "At one time at my home we used to play Scrabble on a terminal plugged  F into the telephone with a VAX at Digital. When you had a terminal you F had everything that we see now on a personal computer. So that's been  around for many years."   
 -Ken Olsen   --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:42:48 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) 5 Subject: Re: Loading Alpha-VMS from a VAX served CD ? . Message-ID: <dun8j8$5b1$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes in article <440E2EFA.40F0D3B2@teksavvy.com> dated Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:10:39 -0500:  >Hoff Hoffman wrote:I >>   There is a deeply integrated assumption that all OpenVMS Alpha boxes J >>   and all OpenVMS I64 boxes either have a directly-accessable CD or DVDJ >>   device, or an equivalent and site-specific way to initially load some- >>   sort of compatible and swappable device.  > C >Yeah, but you should know by now that you're not dealing with your  >average VMS geek here :-)  < If c.o.v readers aren't average VMS geeks I wonder who is...  I I agree with Hoff; the DS10L would stink as a hobbyist's primary machine. F I'll keep my 500au and my 500.  Someday when all the SCSI disks in theE universe have failed I'll have to buy one of those SCSI-IDE adapters.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 09:45:44 -0800 , From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <quayle@pobox.com> Subject: MASS-11 Software B Message-ID: <1141839944.760244.41650@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>  F I have a client that I'm migrating to CHARON-VAX.  However, his systemF disk backup (TK-50, of course) appears to be unreadable.  He loves (!)E MASS-11, and wants to keep using it.  Does anyone have a distribution ) tape laying around in a drawer somewhere?   D By the way, I was able to find out that Microsystems, the people whoB developed MASS-11, still exist.  They only do conversions now, butC here's their information in case someone's interested in going that  way...       Microsystems     377 East Butterfield Road 
     Suite 910      Lombard, IL 60148      630-598-1100  D Their web site (www.microsystems.com) doesn't ever seem to load, but the phone number works.   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------8 Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA < stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:50:23 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) ' Subject: Re: Multiple cluster aliases ? . Message-ID: <dun91f$5b1$2@newslocal.mitre.org>   helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes in article <dume9n$v94$1@online.de> dated Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:13:59 +0000 (UTC): 6 >In article <440D57BE.7E2E617B@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei( ><jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:  > E >> The TCPIP Services on VAX (5.3) only support one cluster alias IP.  >>  K >> What I would like to have is a set of "dynamic" IPs that are attached to " >> a service as opposed to a node. > D >Most routers can forward a particular port to a particular address. > H >Have you tried giving nodes 1 and 2 one cluster-alias address, nodes 3 ) >and 4 another cluster-alias address etc?   I Even if that worked on today's software, it might not work on tomorrow's. H The primary issue would be whether the cluster-wide lock which turns theI cluster alias on and off includes the IP address (or hash thereof) in its  name.   L There's a "right" mechanism for multiple IP addresses.  They can probably beG changed dynamically.  Managing that under your own lock scheme would be . better than abusing the cluster alias feature.  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:34:30 -0500- From: "Jim Agnew" <brainwavesurfer@gmail.com> Q Subject: Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90. I Message-ID: <a184d6630603080734g1ab96c64ha8b53aa83ff424fe@mail.gmail.com>   ' ------=_Part_5632_5726738.1141832070749 , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline    Way cool!!!  thanks...  3 On 3/7/06, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:  >  > Antonio Carlini wrote: > > Jim Agnew wrote: > > K > >> we have.  Having 3 of these beasties, how can I tell if one of them is H > >> a 90A ?  I do have a 4000-60, but besides from having less ram, i'm4 > >> back to having no disaster backup if it goes... > >  > > < > > I'm a little behind on my reading :-) but this bit seems= > > unanswered. I think the only way of telling that you have < > > a VS4000-90A rather than a VS4000-90 is that in the boot9 > > display (or in SHOW CONFIG or similar) the -90 claims 7 > > a speed of something like 75MHz and the -90A claims 7 > > something like 83MHz (numbers from failing memory - 4 > > I reboot my 90A to check but it's doing stirling& > > work and I hate to disturb it ...) > >  > > Antonio  > >  > >  > ( > I'd think this makes it rather simple: >  > DFE90A::DFEUL> sho lic/cha, > VMS/LMF Charge Information for node DFE90A8 > This is a VAXstation 4000-90A, hardware model type 475H > Type: A, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS Capacity or OpenVMS Unlimited
 > or Base)6 > Type: B, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS F&A Server); > Type: C, * Not Permitted *      (VAX/VMS Concurrent User) 7 > Type: D, Units Required: 100    (VAX/VMS Workstation) F > Type: E, Units Required: 50     (VAX/VMS System Integrated Products)8 > Type: F, Units Required: 10     (VAX Layered Products), > Type: G, * Not Permitted *      (Reserved): > Type: H, * Not Permitted *      (Alpha Layered Products)4 > Type: I, Units Required: 10     (Layered Products) > DFE90A::DFEUL> >  > --6 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04506 > Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596@ > DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com > 170 Grimplin Road  > Vanderbilt, PA  15486  >   ' ------=_Part_5632_5726738.1141832070749 + Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L Way cool!!!&nbsp; thanks...<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/7/=L 06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Dave Froble</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dav=L ef@tsoft-inc.com">davef@tsoft-inc.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote clas=L s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margi=* n: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">L Antonio Carlini wrote:<br>&gt; Jim Agnew wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; we have=K &nbsp;&nbsp;Having 3 of these beasties, how can I tell if one of them is<b= L r>&gt;&gt; a 90A ?&nbsp;&nbsp;I do have a 4000-60, but besides from having = less ram, i'm<br> L &gt;&gt; back to having no disaster backup if it goes...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br=L >&gt; I'm a little behind on my reading :-) but this bit seems<br>&gt; unan=L swered. I think the only way of telling that you have<br>&gt; a VS4000-90A =+ rather than a VS4000-90 is that in the boot L <br>&gt; display (or in SHOW CONFIG or similar) the -90 claims<br>&gt; a sp=L eed of something like 75MHz and the -90A claims<br>&gt; something like 83MH=L z (numbers from failing memory -<br>&gt; I reboot my 90A to check but it's = doing stirlingL <br>&gt; work and I hate to disturb it ...)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Antonio<br>&gt;=L <br>&gt;<br><br>I'd think this makes it rather simple:<br><br>DFE90A::DFEUL=L &gt; sho lic/cha<br>VMS/LMF Charge Information for node DFE90A<br>This is a=-  VAXstation 4000-90A, hardware model type 475 L <br>Type: A, * Not Permitted *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(VAX/VMS =L Capacity or OpenVMS Unlimited<br>or Base)<br>Type: B, * Not Permitted *&nbs=L p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(VAX/VMS F&amp;A Server)<br>Type: C, * Not =L Permitted *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(VAX/VMS Concurrent User)<br=J >Type: D, Units Required: 100&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(VAX/VMS Workstation)L <br>Type: E, Units Required: 50&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (VAX/VMS System Int=L egrated Products)<br>Type: F, Units Required: 10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (V=L AX Layered Products)<br>Type: G, * Not Permitted *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=L nbsp;&nbsp;(Reserved)<br>Type: H, * Not Permitted *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=$ &nbsp;&nbsp;(Alpha Layered Products)L <br>Type: I, Units Required: 10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (Layered Products)<=L br>DFE90A::DFEUL&gt;<br><br>--<br>David Froble&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=L ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=L bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tel: 724-529-0450<br>Dave Froble Enterprises, =L Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Fax: 724-529-0596<br>DFE Ultralight=L s, Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;E-Mail:=20L <a href=3D"mailto:davef@tsoft-inc.com">davef@tsoft-inc.com</a><br>170 Grimp=F lin Road<br>Vanderbilt, PA&nbsp;&nbsp;15486<br></blockquote></div><br>  ) ------=_Part_5632_5726738.1141832070749--    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:34:10 -0500- From: "Jim Agnew" <brainwavesurfer@gmail.com> Q Subject: Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90. I Message-ID: <a184d6630603080734n698c7f12ra3310208fb924c07@mail.gmail.com>   ( ------=_Part_5620_26551880.1141832050908, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   . Don't disturb it on my account, please!!!! ;-)  I I've already figured that one out from google, and it seems that I have 3 = vaxstation 4000-90's, at least according to the cpu clocks...   5 thanks a LOT, tho!! any and all help is appreciated..    Jim   5 On 3/7/06, Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@eii.org> wrote:  >  > Jim Agnew wrote:L > > we have.  Having 3 of these beasties, how can I tell if one of them is = a J > > 90A ?  I do have a 4000-60, but besides from having less ram, i'm back. > > to having no disaster backup if it goes... > : > I'm a little behind on my reading :-) but this bit seems; > unanswered. I think the only way of telling that you have : > a VS4000-90A rather than a VS4000-90 is that in the boot7 > display (or in SHOW CONFIG or similar) the -90 claims 5 > a speed of something like 75MHz and the -90A claims 5 > something like 83MHz (numbers from failing memory - 2 > I reboot my 90A to check but it's doing stirling$ > work and I hate to disturb it ...) > 	 > Antonio  >  >  >   ( ------=_Part_5620_26551880.1141832050908+ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L Don't disturb it on my account, please!!!! ;-)<br><br>I've already figured =L that one out from google, and it seems that I have 3 vaxstation 4000-90's, =L at least according to the cpu clocks...<br><br>thanks a LOT, tho!! any and = all help is appreciated.. L <br><br>Jim<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/7/06, <b class=3D"=L gmail_sendername">Antonio Carlini</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arcarlini@eii.o=L rg">arcarlini@eii.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=L " style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0= 8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> L Jim Agnew wrote:<br>&gt; we have.&nbsp;&nbsp;Having 3 of these beasties, ho=L w can I tell if one of them is a<br>&gt; 90A ?&nbsp;&nbsp;I do have a 4000-=L 60, but besides from having less ram, i'm back<br>&gt; to having no disaste= r backup if it goes...L <br><br>I'm a little behind on my reading :-) but this bit seems<br>unanswe=L red. I think the only way of telling that you have<br>a VS4000-90A rather t=L han a VS4000-90 is that in the boot<br>display (or in SHOW CONFIG or simila= r) the -90 claims L <br>a speed of something like 75MHz and the -90A claims<br>something like 8=L 3MHz (numbers from failing memory -<br>I reboot my 90A to check but it's do=I ing stirling<br>work and I hate to disturb it ...)<br><br>Antonio<br><br>  <br></blockquote></div><br>   * ------=_Part_5620_26551880.1141832050908--   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:37:31 -0500- From: "Jim Agnew" <brainwavesurfer@gmail.com> Q Subject: Re: Need a little help moving from a Microvax3900 to VAXstation 4000-90. I Message-ID: <a184d6630603080737m73c820cbj7cd73207f2539651@mail.gmail.com>   ( ------=_Part_5704_31953114.1141832251145, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   E Ok guys..., in finding those missing driver files, will I be right in 2 looking in the SYS$LDR directory under SYS$COMMON?  K also, interestingly enough, I have one booting vs4000-90 that an exact copy ( (standalone backup/image/verify dd0 dd1)L will NOT boot, so it gotta be the video driver that's missing..  the bootin= g C one is monochrome, this other one has quite a fancy graphics card..    Jim   8 On 2/28/06, Jim Agnew <brainwavesurfer@gmail.com> wrote: > K > thanks for all the replies...  Yes, my old sysadmin was quite the whacker ; > in saving space...  Here's what I've found out to date... I > since i'm posting from Gmail I'm not gonna be able to thread this quite 
 > correctly..  > L > I've found a sysdisk that boots one vs4000-90 just fine, but not this one= , I > the biggest diff is that this particular one has a color display, not a   > monochrome.  would that do it? > K > I have a remastered vms 5.5-2 cd set.., I may make a new system boot disk L > with all the trimmings, and copy back to the original one what's missing.= . L > that may do it..it *would* be nice to have sys$examples back again.. (yup= ,  > he trimmed there also...)  >  > Jim  > I > Thanks to one and all who replied..  It's interesting what gets back to % > gmail and what does not.  ah well..  >  >  >  > ? > On 2/27/06, Stanley F. Quayle <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote:  > >   > > > VMB-I-STS, R0 =3D 00000912 > > " > > The associated status message: > > ( > >   %SYSTEM-E-NOSUCHFILE, no such file > > K > > > One kind person noted that the DKDRIVER probably is not loaded on the ; > > > Microvax, but is needed for boot on the vaxstation...  > > G > > Someone must have whacked that file.  Odd, even the V7.3 version is  > > only 43 blocks.  > > 
 > > > 5.5-2HW  > > > 5.5-2  > > G > > Others have pointed out that -2HW came before -2.  And 5.5-2H4 came G > > after -2.  Fortunately, I have the -2H4 update handy -- it's needed : > > to support the 3100 and 4000 emulations in CHARON-VAX. > >  > > --Stan Quayle  > > Quayle Consulting Inc. > >  > > ----------< > > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX7 > > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA @ > > stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html- > > "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"  > >  > >  > >  >   ( ------=_Part_5704_31953114.1141832251145+ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L Ok guys..., in finding those missing driver files, will I be right in looki=L ng in the SYS$LDR directory under SYS$COMMON?<br><br>also, interestingly en=L ough, I have one booting vs4000-90 that an exact copy (standalone backup/im= age/verify dd0 dd1) L <br>will NOT boot, so it gotta be the video driver that's missing..&nbsp; t=L he booting one is monochrome, this other one has quite a fancy graphics car=L d..<br><br>Jim<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2/28/06, <b class= =3D"gmail_sendername">L Jim Agnew</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brainwavesurfer@gmail.com">brainwavesur=K fer@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= L =3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p= adding-left: 1ex;"> L <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">thanks for all the replies...&nbsp; Yes, my =L old sysadmin was quite the whacker in saving space...&nbsp; Here's what I'v=L e found out to date...<br>since i'm posting from Gmail I'm not gonna be abl=" e to thread this quite correctly.. <br>L <br>I've found a sysdisk that boots one vs4000-90 just fine, but not this o=L ne, the biggest diff is that this particular one has a color display, not a=L  monochrome.&nbsp; would that do it?<br><br>I have a remastered vms 5.5-2 c=L d set.., I may make a new system boot disk with all the trimmings, and copy=L  back to the original one what's missing.. that may do it..it *would* be ni=D ce to have sys$examples back again.. (yup, he trimmed there also...)L <br><br>Jim<br><br>Thanks to one and all who replied..&nbsp; It's interesti=L ng what gets back to gmail and what does not.&nbsp; ah well..</div><div sty=L le=3D"direction: ltr;"><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_109b128b806e6b4e_1"><br><b= r><br><br><div> L <span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2/27/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Stanl= ey F. QuayleL </b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:squayle@insight.rr.com" target=3D"_blank" onclic=L k=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">squayle@insight.rr.com</=L a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:=L  1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex= ;">   L &gt; VMB-I-STS, R0 =3D 00000912<br><br>The associated status message:<br><b=L r>&nbsp;&nbsp;%SYSTEM-E-NOSUCHFILE, no such file<br><br>&gt; One kind perso=L n noted that the DKDRIVER probably is not loaded on the<br>&gt; Microvax, b=* ut is needed for boot on the vaxstation...L <br><br>Someone must have whacked that file.&nbsp;&nbsp;Odd, even the V7.3 =L version is<br>only 43 blocks.<br><br>&gt; 5.5-2HW<br>&gt; 5.5-2<br><br>Othe=L rs have pointed out that -2HW came before -2.&nbsp;&nbsp;And 5.5-2H4 came<b=L r>after -2.&nbsp;&nbsp;Fortunately, I have the -2H4 update handy -- it's ne= ededL <br>to support the 3100 and 4000 emulations in CHARON-VAX.<br><br>--Stan Qu=L ayle<br>Quayle Consulting Inc.<br><br>----------<br>Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.=L  N8SQ&nbsp;&nbsp;Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX<br>8572 North Spring Ct., Picke=+ rington, OH&nbsp;&nbsp;43147&nbsp;&nbsp;USA L <br>stan-at-stanq-dot-com&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.stanq.com/charo=L n-vax.html" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,e=L vent,this)">http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html</a><br>&quot;OpenVMS, when=   downtime is not an option&quot;# <br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>   $ </span></div></blockquote></div><br>  * ------=_Part_5704_31953114.1141832251145--   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 09:22:30 -0500 . From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)6 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Boot Camp Update - Week of Feb 27, Message-ID: <qDMJ1cxUeQ9t@cuebid.zko.hp.com>  + "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> writes:    [stuff deleted . . .]   F > For the agenda, registration, hotel, questions and other information > please visit the web page at:  > ! >  www.hp.com/go/openvms/bootcamp  >  > Warm Regards,  > Sue Skonetski  > Program Manager   M Note that for folks looking for a less-expensive way to come to the bootcamp, I one can stay at the fine Red Roof Inn which is about a quarter mile away. @ For airfare, Southwest Airlines flies into Manchester, NH (MHT).   --    L Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Mar 2006 05:48:50 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com ' Subject: Re: Press releases from Oracle C Message-ID: <1141825729.921045.274460@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   G why hasn't oracle ported their ecommerce suite to OpenVMS yet?  OpenVMS - is the most stable web platform out their ...    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:17:34 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) ; Subject: Re: Users and Technology (was: Re: Just wondering) 0 Message-ID: <i5GPf.4297$jh.196@news.cpqcorp.net>  d In article <1141832899.372873.167580@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>, tomarsin2015@comcast.net writes:D :I wonder how many top exec at HP have a VMS system in their house??G :Image if a top HP offical came out and said "For both office and home   :use I use OpenVMS"  :Just thinking!!!   J   Most everybody here within HP OpenVMS management and marketing regularly7   uses OpenVMS, though they might not even realize it.    G   Having an end-user deal directly with an operating system or directly I   with an application or directly with platform management is a bad idea. I   (There are times when having a software engineer deal with an operating +   system is a bad idea, but I digress.  :-)   I   The central requirement of any senior role -- whether that role is part I   of engineering, management, marketing or otherwise -- is the ability to E   and the absolute necessity to delegate tasks and responsibilities.    K   The central requirement of most any end-user is similar -- end-user folks H   have work to do, "real work", and dealing with the OS platform or its I   applications or its management isn't likely an appropriate use of their H   time, efforts and skills.  (Engineers responsible for working directlyB   with, supporting or managing the tools are excluded, of course.)  G   Would you really want to pay somebody in a senior role to spend their F   time dealing with an OS?   On the surface, you might initially thinkF   the answer here should be "yes" -- but think about it...   Folks areE   already spending far too much time managing their tools, after all.   H   Tools are a means.  Not an end.  (Hobbyists and enthusiasts excluded.)    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:57:40 -0000 / From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net> $ Subject: Re: yacc C code for openVMS0 Message-ID: <120tl64oc9c9o02@corp.supernews.com>  $ Hoff Hoffman <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote:  H >   If you or someone else do port across current lex and yacc versions G >   (to GNV or to full native OpenVMS), do let me know and I'll toss it E >   onto the next OpenVMS Freeware distribution, licenses permitting.   F I did that for byacc a few years ago, native OpenVMS, iirc that was onG one of the freeware cdrom's - should still work (there are changes past 
 the port).  # 	http://invisible-island.net/byacc/    --   Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net  ftp://invisible-island.net   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.134 ************************