1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 10 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 138       Contents:1 ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists 5 Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists 5 Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists  DECserver700 & TFTP  Re: DECserver700 & TFTP  Re: DECserver700 & TFTP  Re: DECserver700 & TFTP ! Re: DS10 vs DS15 and new HP racks ! Re: DS10 vs DS15 and new HP racks % Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit ) Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Re: Eve - displaying ESC? , Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure Re: Just wondering Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range  Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range  Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range * Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 Re: Press releases from Oracle Re: Press releases from Oracle- Re: VMS Roadmap updated - now includes blades   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:50:08 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> : Subject: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists6 Message-ID: <0chQf.318$TB1.269@bignews4.bellsouth.net>  A Process Software is pleased to announce that PMDF and PreciseMail B Anti-Spam have been added to the Process Software OpenVMS HobbyistD program.  They join the Process Software products MultiNet, TCPware,B and Purveyor as being freely available to OpenVMS Hobbyists with a valid VMS Hobbyist license.   = Information about PMDF and PMAS can be found on our web site:    http://www.process.com/   C Hobbyist license PAKs for all of the products can be requested from > our OpenVMS Hobbyist page, accessible from the OpenVMS Center:   http://www.process.com/openvms/    --     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ B PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway for OpenVMS, Tru64, Solaris, & Linux9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:26:11 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists, Message-ID: <4411A897.68D89331@teksavvy.com>   Hunter Goatley wrote:  > C > Process Software is pleased to announce that PMDF and PreciseMail D > Anti-Spam have been added to the Process Software OpenVMS HobbyistF > program.  They join the Process Software products MultiNet, TCPware,D > and Purveyor as being freely available to OpenVMS Hobbyists with a > valid VMS Hobbyist license.     1 <font size=200 bold, italic, blinking, underline>   % W O W !! ! ! ! !  THANK YOU VERY MUCH    </font>    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 10:04:11 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com > Subject: Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS HobbyistsC Message-ID: <1142013851.877086.116830@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   @ that means that with TCPware, Purveyor and PMDF/Precisemail, allB hobbyists have a complete bulletproof environment for web and mail	 services!    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:03:31 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) Subject: DECserver700 & TFTP) Message-ID: <durbsj$70b$1@news.BelWue.DE>    Hello,  N I just came across the option of booting a DECserver700 via TFTP. So I gave itL a try. But I couldn't get it to work. Thus, is there anything special to getM this to work? The image is WWENG2.SYS (DNAS V2.2), I entered a "DEFINE SERVER L TFTP HOST a.b.c.d". I have an internet address defined, a default gateway, aM subnet mask. But all I see is a MOP request, no TFTP request. By the way, the K TFTP server is working all right, it just doesn't get any requests from the 
 DECserver.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:48:42 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: DECserver700 & TFTP, Message-ID: <44114B60.77E63D44@teksavvy.com>   Christoph Gartmann wrote: O > this to work? The image is WWENG2.SYS (DNAS V2.2), I entered a "DEFINE SERVER N > TFTP HOST a.b.c.d". I have an internet address defined, a default gateway, a@ > subnet mask. But all I see is a MOP request, no TFTP request.   B You've defined where to send a TFTP request. But have you told the+ decserver to boot via TFTP instead of MOP ?    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:46:46 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)  Subject: Re: DECserver700 & TFTP) Message-ID: <durov6$26m$1@news.BelWue.DE>   \ In article <44114B60.77E63D44@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Christoph Gartmann wrote:P >> this to work? The image is WWENG2.SYS (DNAS V2.2), I entered a "DEFINE SERVERO >> TFTP HOST a.b.c.d". I have an internet address defined, a default gateway, a A >> subnet mask. But all I see is a MOP request, no TFTP request.   > C >You've defined where to send a TFTP request. But have you told the , >decserver to boot via TFTP instead of MOP ?  M No, how do I do this? According to the documentation it should do a TFTP boot $ when there is a TFTP server defined.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 04:35:59 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk  Subject: Re: DECserver700 & TFTPB Message-ID: <1141994159.354602.45800@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  B >From my experience, they will cycle round and try to load throughC whatever means works.  If there's no MOP server then TFTP may work.  i.e. try turning off MOP!    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 06:02:29 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk* Subject: Re: DS10 vs DS15 and new HP racksC Message-ID: <1141999349.138422.321330@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G The main differences between the DS10 and the DS15 appear to be lack of E floppy on the DS15 and the DVD instead of a CD on the DS15.  Internal ) storage options are marginally different. C The PSU sticks out of the back a couple or three inches on the DS15  whereas it doesn't on the DS10. , Height of both boxes appears to be the same.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 07:49:05 -0800( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>* Subject: Re: DS10 vs DS15 and new HP racksC Message-ID: <1142005745.869901.255180@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   D Thanks to all who replied.  The DS10 is currently sitting on a fixedC shelf in the rack that was originally intended to hold the tabletop E tape drive, and other non-rackmountable gear (which now sit on top of 
 the DS10).  F Perhaps a sliding shelf will be the best answer, especially if it will- support the weight of the DS10 when extended.    Rich   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 08:19:50 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) . Subject: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit, Message-ID: <6nqfFMrZWK$X@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>  ; I installed the "VMS82A_UPDATE V2.0" and "VMS82A_PCSI V1.0" 2 kits simultaneously on an Alphaserver this morning and got the following error:   --------------  F Portion done: 0%...10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...90%L %PCSI-I-SPAWNEXE, error executing: @PCSI$SOURCE:[SYSUPD]PCSI_POSTINSTALL.COM   I %PCSI-E-EXEPSTFAIL, product supplied EXECUTE POSTINSTALL procedure failed ) -SYSTEM-F-NOLOGNAM, no logical name match " %PCSI-E-OPFAILED, operation failedH Terminating is strongly recommended.  Do you want to terminate? [YES] no Portion done: 100%   --------------  7 Anyone else seen this? Is it something to worry about?    @ (The system rebooted afterwards and appears to be running fine )   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 08:45:55 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) 2 Subject: Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit, Message-ID: <dcFAdFroikmP@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>  D In article <1142007773.985265.315150@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, $   "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> writes:  D > Usually with the PCSI kits you have to install them seperatly fromD > other kits. I normally install the PCSI kit, log out, log in, then > install other kits.   A   OK, that may be it. However I did the comparable thing ( latest @ PCSI kit and latest VMS UPDATE kit simultaneously ) on VMS 7.3-2@ and on VMS 8.2-1 Integrity and didn't see the error on either of those platforms.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:50:22 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?+ Message-ID: <47db0fFf72srU1@individual.net>    mabbuttg@yahoo.ca wrote:A > Is there anyway to get Eve to display something where an escape F > character occurs in a text file (not necessarily the escape itself -B > I've read there are some issues with terminals interpreting themF > instead of displaying them)?  I'm doing some work with printer formsG > and PCL escape codes and I'm finding the lack of them annoying when I  > go back to edit a file.  > I > For instance, if you create a new file, press CTRL-V, then ESC, a space 3 > is inserted, then you can type whatever you want.  > C > However, if you then save and exit, and edit it again, nothing is I > displayed where the escape character is, not even a space.  It is there H > - as a test I created the same file without the ESC, and ran diff, and  > there is in fact a difference. >   G I can duplicate this behaviour using a VT100 emulator. Using a DECterm  @ (set as VT300 Mode, 7-Bit Controls), a reverse question mark is @ displayed for the escape (and any other non-printing character).  H What sort of terminal or emulator are you using? If a terminal emulator - and it can support VT200 or higher, try that.   G If, as Phil suggested, you use EDIT/EDT, escape will display as <ESC>;  E you can enter it in full screen mode by hitting the escape key twice.   D The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 E bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't edit  H past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated, but D with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and  contents will be preserved.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 07:44:46 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) " Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?3 Message-ID: <6grxbxZc8+q$@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <1141963094.592037.18970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, mabbuttg@yahoo.ca writes:A > Is there anyway to get Eve to display something where an escape F > character occurs in a text file (not necessarily the escape itself -B > I've read there are some issues with terminals interpreting themF > instead of displaying them)?  I'm doing some work with printer formsG > and PCL escape codes and I'm finding the lack of them annoying when I  > go back to edit a file.   E    EDT does a nice job of displaying such characters and allowing you 8    to edit them (real EDT, not TPU with the EDT keypad).  F    The last time this question came up several of us provided TPU codeE    that will display such characters, but in a different buffer.  You >    still have to go back to the original buffer to do an edit.  :    IMHO, I'd use EDT for this, but you can find my code at(       http://home.comcast.net/~rdkoehler   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:21:47 -0500 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com> 5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure 0 Message-ID: <1141996861.145045@nntp.acecape.com>   pcoviello@gmail.com wrote:I > Sol, I'm not sure I want to tackle that one... if I did I would want to < > keep it all together in one com... would there be a way toH > quantify what I want by doing something like the dir if it is .txt ftp< > as ascii else ftp as binary... it is probably to simple... >  > thanks > Paul > # Not sure if the quetes are neeeded:   j $ pipe dir/nohead/sel=file=(nodir,nodev)/since=ddd-mm-yyyy/before=ddd-mm-yyyy *.txt | @sendthefiles /ASCIIk $ pipe dir/nohead/sel=file=(nodir,nodev)/since=ddd-mm-yyyy/before=ddd-mm-yyyy *.dat | @sendthefiles /BINARY  orl $ pipe dir/nohead/sel=file=(nodir,nodev)/since=ddd-mm-yyyy/before=ddd-mm-yyyy *.txt | @sendthefiles "/ASCII"m $ pipe dir/nohead/sel=file=(nodir,nodev)/since=ddd-mm-yyyy/before=ddd-mm-yyyy *.dat | @sendthefiles "/BINARY"    in dcl script:F $ else copy/ftp'p1' 'name' servername"userid pasword"::"c:\serverdir\"   sol    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:28:43 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: Just wondering $ Message-ID: <dusggr$e5i$1@online.de>  4 In article <440f08c5$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "FredK"% <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> writes:    K > At last report, Ken Olsen had still never logged onto a computer himself.   I The guy mainly responsible for the development of Roland's legendary D50   synthesiser is a guitarist.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 13:20:12 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range* Message-ID: <44117d0c@news.langstoeger.at>  \ In article <4410AA1F.E91B6266@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >John Reagan wrote: J >> I think it will be raised again to just below 64K in the future.  GoingC >> past 64K is a little harder since besides folks with 4 character  > H >OK, I have to ask. What sort of usage/applications would require such aD >large number of mailboxes ? Or is it a case of mailbox number never8 >getting re-used once the largest number has been used ?  I I know of an application which required such a large number of mailboxes. B But I think, 32k were enough (only more than 10k were required)...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 07:31:44 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range3 Message-ID: <NNsryl3NX7$i@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <yGYPf.4384$DN.1155@news.cpqcorp.net>, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes: > Kari Keronen wrote: F >> The range was raised from 9999 to 32767 with OpenVMS version 7.3-2. >>   > J > I think it will be raised again to just below 64K in the future.  Going C > past 64K is a little harder since besides folks with 4 character  H > assumptions, there is some actual documentation that would imply that I > the unit number is only a word big.  Making it a longword would really  I > mess people up (especially Macro programmers where the system supplied  K > macros really do assume that things like termination mailbox numbers are  - > only a word big - don't ask me how I know).   G    All of who've used $UCBDEF know how we know unit numbers are 16 bit.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 07:39:42 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Mailbox Unit Number Range3 Message-ID: <VAshdrAYVbVy@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <1141941749.760653.310380@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> writes:F > drivers can be fixed  and set a bit somewhere to say they are fixed. > This was done 2 > for other the unit number range increase I think >   F    Drivers have been impacted by other non-upward-compatable changes. D    As parts of the kernel they're harder to protect from such thingsF    than applications running in user mode.  Those of us who do driversE    got lots of calls when VMS 5 shipped.  Beats doing Oracle updates.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:50:55 GMT * From: Gary Parker <g.j.parker@lboro.ac.uk>3 Subject: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 4 Message-ID: <2006031014550916807-gjparker@lboroacuk>  G Hi guys, I finally got my hands on some real VAX hardware to play with  C and have hit an immediate stumbling block, namely the console port.   H The machine in question is a VAX 4000-500 with a KA680 CPU module in it C and has the MMJ DECnet type connector for the serial console. I've  @ searched this ng and Google'd and been totally overwhelmed with E differing opinions and methods for creating a cable that will simply  < allow me to plug the thing into a DB-9 serial port on my PC.  " I found these cables at Black Box: http://www.blackbox.co.uk/solutions/display.asp?cs=min&id=1&doc=evaad-0010&tx=Infrastructure%20Cabling&sx=Copper%20Patch%20Cables    I'm   E guessing that if I buy one of these, hack one end off and replace it  H with a DB-9 male plug I'll be able to hook it up to my PC or sparc, but F do I need the DEC 423 MMJ cable or the MMJ straight-pinned cable? I'm F guessing the DEC cable will act as a null-modem (what I want, right?) < and the straight cable does exactly what it says on the tin.  F I know I could just buy an MMJ connector and some use some CAT5 cable A to make one of these cables up myself but the crimp tool for MMJ  F connectors costs more than this cable and I can't see myself using it  more than once.    Thanks in advance for any help.    Gary   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:53:00 -0500 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 - Message-ID: <44115A8C.8489.E9E3834@localhost>   + On 10 Mar 2006 at 14:50, Gary Parker wrote: F > guessing that if I buy one of these, hack one end off and replace itE > with a DB-9 male plug I'll be able to hook it up to my PC or sparc, G > but do I need the DEC 423 MMJ cable or the MMJ straight-pinned cable? C > I'm guessing the DEC cable will act as a null-modem (what I want, F > right?) and the straight cable does exactly what it says on the tin.  E Actually, all MMJ cables are "null modem" -- you can connect two MMJ  : devices without all the wondering about straight vs. null.  D In your situation, I'd be tempted to whack off one MMJ from a cable B and solder up a DB-9.  You'll need an ohmeter to figure out which  color is which...   ( I've written up all the gory details at:  !   http://www.stanq.com/cable.html   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------8 Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA < stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:06:31 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 ( Message-ID: <ops57i45zvzgicya@hyrrokkin>  7 On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:53:00 -0500, Stanley F. Quayle    <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote:   * > I've written up all the gory details at:" >  http://www.stanq.com/cable.html   Empty page.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 08:42:32 -0800' From: "syslost" <wm.reynolds@gmail.com> 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 C Message-ID: <1142008952.083756.285360@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   % DB9 (PC)    MMJ socket       Function 1 4                   1                    DTR  DTR 1 3                   2                     Tx  Tx+ @ 5                 3 + 4                 Signal ground  Rx- + Tx-1 2                     5                   Rx  Rx+ 9 1 + 6 + 8         6                   DSR + CTS + CD  DSR    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:41:57 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 2 Message-ID: <FTiQf.4472$Ib1.3855@news.cpqcorp.net>  a In article <2006031014550916807-gjparker@lboroacuk>, Gary Parker <g.j.parker@lboro.ac.uk> writes: I :The machine in question is a VAX 4000-500 with a KA680 CPU module in it  D :and has the MMJ DECnet type connector for the serial console. I've A :searched this ng and Google'd and been totally overwhelmed with  F :differing opinions and methods for creating a cable that will simply = :allow me to plug the thing into a DB-9 serial port on my PC.   C   Google didn't find the OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions and the A   DEC MMJ Pin-out?   That's odd.   So I can improve the FAQ, what A   did you search for?  (With that, I'll add those strings to the  >   relevent section of the FAQ, and make it easier to find it.)  B   There's a picture of the connector there, and the pin numbering,-   and the BC16-E wiring.  Here's the section:       7           14.26  Looking for connector wiring pin-outs?   E                    The DECconnect DEC-423 Modified Modular Jack (MMJ) H                    appears similar to a telphone or network modular jac,I                    though with the key offset to one side. The DECconnect I                    MMJ connector pin-out is listed in Table 14-5, with an J                    end-on view of the connector pins and the connector key                    shown below.   J           ________________________________________________________________%           Table 14-5  DEC MMJ Pin-out   J                    _______________________________________________________J                    Pin_____Description____________________________________  4                    1       Data Terminal Ready (DTR)  )                    2       Transmit (TXD)   1                    3       Transmit Ground (TXD-)       0                    4       Receive Ground (RXD-)  (                    5       Receive (RXD)  J           _________6_______Data_Set_Ready_(DSR)___________________________  !              +------------------+ !              | 1  2  3  4  5  6 | !              +------------+    ++                             +____+  D                    The BC16E-nn (where the "-nn" indicates the cableG                    length) cabling and keying "flips over" or "crosses- I                    over" the signal wires, and this allows all DECconnect G                    MMJ connections to be wired identically; the ends of G                    the BC16E are symmetrical and fully interchangeable, E                    and allows either end of the cable to be connected G                    either to the terminal or to the host. Specifically, B                    the BC16E-nn cross-over wiring looks like this:  7                   Terminal                         Host 6                   MMJ                              MMJ  9                DTR 1 --->---------->----------->--- 6 DSR 9                TXD 2 --->---------->----------->--- 5 RXD 5                    3 ------------------------------ 4 5                    4 ------------------------------ 3 9                RXD 5 ---<----------<-----------<--- 2 TXD 9                DSR 6 ---<----------<-----------<--- 1 DTR   F                    DECconnect parts and connections are available fromF                    HP, and MMJ crimping dies for use in typical telco-J                    style crimping tools, and MMJ connectors, are availableH                    from Blackbox and from other communications equipment                    vendors.   I                    The PC-compatible DB9 connector pin-out found on Alpha H                    and Integrity COM serial ports-and on most PC systems+                    is listed in Table 14-6.   F   The H8571-J connector adapts from the BC16E to the PC DB9 connector,B   and there are also pinouts for the PC DB9 in the FAQ.  There areI   wiring-level diagrams of many of the DECconnect connectors and adapters H   available at http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/wizard/, and at other sites.F   The H8571-J is the one you want here.  *Not* the H8571-B nor H8575-B<   adapters, as these connect to the old MicroVAX DB9 pinout.  H   The FAQ also has a pointer over to Stanley Quayle's wiring and cabling1   web page; at <http://www.stanq.com/cable.html>.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:12:42 -0500 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 . Message-ID: <44116D3A.12286.EE73077@localhost>  ) On 10 Mar 2006 at 9:06, Tom Linden wrote: , > > I've written up all the gory details at:$ > >  http://www.stanq.com/cable.html > 
 > Empty page.    Sorry -- it's fixed now.  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------8 Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA < stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:31:29 GMT * From: Gary Parker <g.j.parker@lboro.ac.uk>7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 4 Message-ID: <2006031017264775249-gjparker@lboroacuk>  A On 2006-03-10 17:41:57 +0000, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) said:  > E >   Google didn't find the OpenVMS Frequently Asked Questions and the C >   DEC MMJ Pin-out?   That's odd.   So I can improve the FAQ, what E >   did you search for?  (With that, I'll add those strings to the    > > relevent section of the FAQ, and make it easier to find it.)  F Thanks for all the replies folks, I'm sure I'll be able to get myself   sorted out over the weekend now.  G Hoff> Google certainly did give me the pinouts as required, from many,  @ many sources. There were just so many variations I was somewhat B overwhelmed and took the cowards way out and asked the ng instead.  H Stan> That web page is great, it'll probably come in useful for a great  many other things, too.   / Thanks to the folks that replied directly, too.    Gary   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:38:44 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 / Message-ID: <ZuqdnSxLCOCoJIzZRVn-pA@libcom.com>    Gary Parker wrote:I > Hi guys, I finally got my hands on some real VAX hardware to play with  E > and have hit an immediate stumbling block, namely the console port.  > J > The machine in question is a VAX 4000-500 with a KA680 CPU module in it E > and has the MMJ DECnet type connector for the serial console. I've  B > searched this ng and Google'd and been totally overwhelmed with G > differing opinions and methods for creating a cable that will simply  > > allow me to plug the thing into a DB-9 serial port on my PC. > $ > I found these cables at Black Box: > http://www.blackbox.co.uk/solutions/display.asp?cs=min&id=1&doc=evaad-0010&tx=Infrastructure%20Cabling&sx=Copper%20Patch%20Cables  >  >  > I'm G > guessing that if I buy one of these, hack one end off and replace it  J > with a DB-9 male plug I'll be able to hook it up to my PC or sparc, but H > do I need the DEC 423 MMJ cable or the MMJ straight-pinned cable? I'm H > guessing the DEC cable will act as a null-modem (what I want, right?) > > and the straight cable does exactly what it says on the tin. > K > I know I could just buy an MMJ connector and some use some CAT5 cable to  K > make one of these cables up myself but the crimp tool for MMJ connectors  L > costs more than this cable and I can't see myself using it more than once. > ! > Thanks in advance for any help.  >  > Gary >   I Where are you located?  I've got the tools.  I've done cables before for  # hobbyists for the cost of shipping.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 12:16:53 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 3 Message-ID: <WsrT7eqJhVVr@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <44116D3A.12286.EE73077@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes: + > On 10 Mar 2006 at 9:06, Tom Linden wrote: - >> > I've written up all the gory details at: % >> >  http://www.stanq.com/cable.html  >>   >> Empty page. >  > Sorry -- it's fixed now.  8 Ok, I guess the fixed one is the one with the errors :-)   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 12:16:23 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 3 Message-ID: <TqeofIbSsKEz@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <ops57i45zvzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:9 > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:53:00 -0500, Stanley F. Quayle   ! > <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote:  > + >> I've written up all the gory details at: # >>  http://www.stanq.com/cable.html  > 
 > Empty page.   7 It works for me on Netscape Communicator 4.75-20000815.   > But http://validator.w3.org/ says there are at least 4 errors.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Mar 2006 23:43:55 -0800 ; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> ' Subject: Re: Press releases from Oracle C Message-ID: <1141976635.832323.113440@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Malcolm Dunnett wrote:N > In article <rdeininger-0903062146400001@user-uinj41s.dialup.mindspring.com>,> >      rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes: > > H > > You have absolutely no idea what is involved in building and testing$ > > Oracle Server.  It isn't pretty. > , >    Please enlighten us, why is it so ugly? > B >    I'm going on the assumption that the code shouldn't need muchC > modification moving from Alpha to IA64 - it's just user-mode code B > isn't it? I would expect some substantial testing but I'd assume; > that Oracle has tools that automate much of that testing.   E No, not even close.  The ORACLE account requires some efty privileges - (copied from the 10gR1 Installation Manual) :  UAF> MODIFY ORACLE10g - C /PRIVILEGE=(CMKRNL,NETMBX,OPER,PFNMAP,PRMGBL,PRMMBX,SHARE,SYSGBL, - E SYSNAM,TMPMBX,GROUP,GRPNAM,IMPERSONATE,LOG_IO,WORLD,SYSLCK, SYSPRV) - G /DEFPRIVILEGE=(CMKRNL,NETMBX,OPER,PFNMAP,PRMGBL,PRMMBX,SHARE, SYSGBL, - C SYSNAM,TMPMBX,GROUP,GRPNAM,IMPERSONATE,LOG_IO,WORLD,SYSLCK, SYSPRV)   B The Oracle background processes spend a good bit of time in KERNEL. mode.  They are much more than user-mode code.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 15:55:57 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)' Subject: Re: Press releases from Oracle * Message-ID: <4411a18d@news.langstoeger.at>   In article <1141961041.258918.255670@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> writes: L >                                                 9.2.0.5 is the latest 9iR2B >version for VMS (first released well over a year ago, almost two)E >while everyone else is at 9.2.0.8.  Clearly it's harder to port than : >they thought or else the demand just isn't strong enough.  I Current 9iR2 version for VMS is 9.2.0.7 (older than .8 but newer than .5)  Check again in metalink    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Mar 2006 13:22:05 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)6 Subject: Re: VMS Roadmap updated - now includes blades, Message-ID: <44117d7d$1@news.langstoeger.at>  \ In article <4410DC79.1F3C1CCD@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Ian Miller wrote: >>  8 >> My key question is - who would buy blades to run VMS? > ? >HP stated that IA64 blade units would fit into real 8086 blade G >enclosures. So if you already have your main 8086 blade mainframe, you % >can add one or two VMS nodes easily.    Just as you did with DS10L ;-)  F >Similarly, you can build a neat VMS cluster on a blade enclosure thatI >doesn't take up much space and have high speed access to the disk array. F >This allows you to build a high availability "system" in a very small >amount of space.   5 ...distributed over more than one location of course.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.138 ************************