1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 11 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 140       Contents:' Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack?  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Lotus 1-2-3 Software. Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500, Re: OpenVMS proves superior to all other OSs$ Re: Switching from TCPIP to Multinet$ Re: Switching from TCPIP to Multinet Re: VMS732_UPDATE-V0600  [AVAILMAN] JAVA setup ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:29:19 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> 0 Subject: Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack?9 Message-ID: <sozQf.5326$xM2.436407@news20.bellglobal.com>    OS: OpenVMS-7.3-2 (w/UPDATE-6) STACK: TCPware-5.7-2  H Today I was attempting to get the MIME tool working in OpenVMS-7.3-2 (toH attach ZIP files) but discovered my MIME documents are recognized by any email clients.  
      #####   $MIME :== $SYS$SYSTEM:MIME.EXE $MIME " MIME> new yada.txt/edit="edit/edt" this is a test
 MIME> list Message Headers:, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline * Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit/8Bit ASCII
 MIME> save# %MIME-I-SAVEFILE, saving file . . .  YADA.TXT
 MIME> exit/ $mail/subj=test yada.txt "n.rieck@sympatico.ca"   
      #####  B Here (between the dashes) is what I see in my email client window.V -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mime-version: 1.0 , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 Message-ID: <714023.1142037867@OpenVMS.Mime.V1.8>    this is a testV --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  K Upon further examination of the whole received file I noticed an extra <CR> K and <LF> on the line before the statement "Mime-version: 1.0". Checking the ' online MIME help reveals the following:    MIME> help over res    Overview Restrictions   L The MIME utility does not fully integrate with the VMSMAIL user interface toF send MIME messages over the internet. You can use VMSMAIL to send MIMEL messages created and saved with the MIME utility. Those messages can then beE interpreted using MIME at the destination OpenVMS host or with a MIME K capable reader on another system platform. However, MIME messages sent with J Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS may not be interpreted by MIME programsI other than the OpenVMS MIME Utility. That is unless the version of TCP/IP K Services for OpenVMS is later than V5.0A, or the latest TCP/IP updates have F been applied. As of TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS version V5.0A, a knownI problem exists where an extra NEWLINE character corrupts the MIME message D sent with SMTP. This will be corrected in the next release of TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS.   
      #####  L So here is my question. Does MIME now work with the latest version of TCP/IPE Services for "OpenVMS version V5.x"? (If so, someone needs to contact  Process Software Corp)  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 01:22:25 -0800 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?C Message-ID: <1142068945.420272.143440@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Paul Sture wrote: E > The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 F > bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't editI > past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated, but E > with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and  > contents will be preserved. D You can of course insert a carriage-return (^M) to shorten the line,' make your changes, then remove the <CR>  Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 12:54:31 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?+ Message-ID: <47fs3oFfattjU1@individual.net>    dooleys@snowy.net.au wrote:  > Paul Sture wrote:  > E >>The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 F >>bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't editI >>past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated, but E >>with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and  >>contents will be preserved.  > F > You can of course insert a carriage-return (^M) to shorten the line,) > make your changes, then remove the <CR>  > Phil >   F Thanks for that tip Phil. For many years my favourite editor has been & EDIT/TPU, so I hadn't thought of that.    A couple of tips back to the OP:  H In EDT <GOLD><KP7>set notr<keypad ENTER>, and a given line will wrap so " you can go past your screen width-  I In EDIT/TPU, when editing files with records longer than 80 bytes, issue  E <DO> and then SET RIGHT 1000 (or whatever exceeds the maximum record  ( length) to stop automatic line wrapping.   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 13:31:32 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?, Message-ID: <4412d134$1@news.langstoeger.at>  V In article <47fs3oFfattjU1@individual.net>, Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch> writes:J >In EDIT/TPU, when editing files with records longer than 80 bytes, issue F ><DO> and then SET RIGHT 1000 (or whatever exceeds the maximum record ) >length) to stop automatic line wrapping.   H No. In EDIT/TPU the best way is to generally enable EDT layout/behaviour (which I did in 1987 or so)    $ TYPE EVE$INIT P TPU IF GET_INFO (SCREEN, "MOTIF") THEN SET (MOUSE,ON) ELSE SET (MOUSE,OFF) ENDIF DEF KEY=CONTROL-B SET WIDTH 132  DEF KEY=CONTROL-N SET WIDTH 80 DEF KEY=F8 QUIT  DEF KEY=GOLD-E EXIT  DEF KEY=GOLD-Q QUIT 6 DEF KEY=GOLD-X TPU WRITE_FILE (SELECT_RANGE,"TMP.TMP")! DEF KEY=GOLD-LEFT  "SHIFT LEFT 8" " DEF KEY=GOLD-RIGHT "SHIFT RIGHT 8" SET CURSOR BOUND SET NOEXIT ATTRIBUTE CHECK SET SCROLL MARGIN 7 7 
 SET NOWRAP  O where SET NOWRAP, SET CURSOR BOUND and SET SCROLL MARGIN (and EVE$KEYPAD "EDT") ) are the main settings to reach this goal.   G If all EVE/TPU users would have done such settings decades ago, many of H the EVE vs EDT flamewars wouldn't had happened (ok, there are still moreJ differences and some flamewars happened because of these, but for joe userI these settings would have been enough to not miss real EDT and love EVE).    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 04:47:45 -0800, From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <quayle@pobox.com> Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 Software C Message-ID: <1142081265.756420.300800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   F Okay, I've got MASS-11 working.  Now, I have to find a distribution of Lotus 1-2-3.  Anyone have one?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:19:09 GMT * From: Gary Parker <g.j.parker@lboro.ac.uk>7 Subject: Re: Making Up A Console Cable For VAX 4000-500 4 Message-ID: <2006031116142716807-gjparker@lboroacuk>  E On 2006-03-10 17:38:44 +0000, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> said:  > G > Where are you located?  I've got the tools.  I've done cables before  ) > for hobbyists for the cost of shipping.   G Thanks for the kind offer, Dave, but I'm in the UK and as I've already  H been offered an MMJ to DB25 convertor (thanks, Ted) I can probably pick ? up an MMJ cable for less than it would cost to ship your cable.    Gary   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 09:26:13 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>5 Subject: Re: OpenVMS proves superior to all other OSs C Message-ID: <1142097973.215856.232390@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:5 > In article <YHaDwjRPkS9z@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 2 > 	Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:c > > In article <47arkdFef6d6U1@individual.net>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: 0 > >> In article <440F8E46.E267A788@comcast.net>,: > >> 	David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: [...]  > > K > >>> ...and having someone else know your airbags have deployed might just  > >>> save your hide!  > >>H > >> I prefer to use the old fashined way and just avoid hitting things. > > D > > I would _prefer_ that too, but I like the idea of a backup plan. > I > One has to weigh the advantages with the disadvantages,  I have and the I > risk is just too great.  The electronics in cars are not protected from I > and therefore very susceptable to EMF.  Do you know how much RF power a H > NY State Police car emits?  I'll give you a hint.  They were unable toH > teach them that the radio doesn't work well when they are parked underF > an overpass to get out of the summer sun so they just put amplifiersE > in all the cars.  I have had a passing police car transmiting cause H > my gas pedal to drop tot he floor because of the interference from theE > radio to my cruise control.  And we won't even get into the illegal 3 > radio equipment found in many trucks still today.  > > > > >> Hint: I don't trust air bags or ABS brake systems either. > > D > > I don't trust any single mechanism, but I believe in redundancy. > F > See my comments above.  Oh yeah and I could add a few others to helpF > you buld confidence.  Ever own a British Car?  Ever hear the typical > British Car jokes? > = > What is Lucas Electric's nickname?  The Prince of Darkness. , > Why do British wives like Lucas electrics?@ >                           Get's their husbands in before dark. > 4 > Guess what Lucas does today?  ABS systems.     :-) > E > May sound like a ludite, but I even removed the electronic ignition F > from my MG in favor of a good old fashioned points ignition.  I haveB > to actually do periodic tune-ups, but the trade off is worth it.    A There was a listener on Carl Talk today (you can hear the show at  www.cartalk.com) (Go to   3     <http://www.cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html>    and click Segment 6)  ? who wanted a car with no electronics (I believe he said with no F computers) esp. without power windows! An interesting listen. This guyE had lots of problems from electronics/computers in the car, but there F was no indication it was from some external EMF. He wanted "hand-crankF windows", points and condenser, and so on. And he said something like:E Why do you need a computer in the fuel tank? He didn't seem the least $ bit concerned about privacy, though.  D Be sure to listen to the credits at the end of the show (segment 10)F naming their staff which includes members like their esteemed producerG is Doug "the subway fugitive, not a slave to fashion, bongo boy" Berman   F public opinion pollster Paul Murky of Murky research assisted by theirF statistician Marge Innovera, staff snowplow driver is Frazier Tooshoff  % Their staff caterer is Edith Ann Weep   # Russian chauffer is Peekov Andropov   
 and so on.  ? If you're a glutton for punishment, listen to the whole show by & clicking the segments 1-10 button! :-)  B Oh, one more thing: I've also heard on Car Talk (not this episode)A about some BMW with an incredibly *stupid* control center for the D stereo, climate controls, etc. If you want to change the volume, youE have to go thru menus on the LCD touch screen! Want to make it warmer B or colder, the same thing! Just what we need: People driving BMW'sF taking their eyes off the road for way too long struggling to read andF interpret menus on LCD  screens which may not be easily readable underG various lighting conditions simply trying to turn on the stereo, adjust B the heat, or something like that. So technology can also be pretty stupid, and deadly.    [...]  >  > bill > --L > Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesF > bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. > University of Scranton   |@ > Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   AEF    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 06:03:36 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com - Subject: Re: Switching from TCPIP to Multinet B Message-ID: <1142085816.429756.44670@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>  F why not TCPware?  It was designed with the vms kernel and runs crisper than multinet/ucx.  . And it also runs true decnet phase IV over IP.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:47:50 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>- Subject: Re: Switching from TCPIP to Multinet 0 Message-ID: <C0384D46.1D2B2%roktsci@comcast.net>  ? On 3/10/06 12:57 PM, in article dusp8802ue7@enews2.newsguy.com, 2 "healyzh@aracnet.com" <healyzh@aracnet.com> wrote:  I > With the news that PMDF and PreciseMail Anti-Spam are now available for K > Hobbyists, I think I'm even more interested in switching my Alpha from HP N > TCPIP 5.4 to Multinet (I'm interested in switching TCP stacks for the DECnetK > gateway in Multinet).  Are there any problems I should be aware of, or is B > this just a case of uninstalling TCPIP, and installing Multinet? > K > Also, if I wanted, am I correct that PreciseMail Anti-Spam will work with N > TCPIP, and that I wouldn't have to install anything else in order to use it? >  > Zane >  > L Configuration and defining things like port services, printers, mail serversK and more are all different, but I find that the Multinet Method (for me) is  much more intuitive and easier.    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 08:45:57 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)   Subject: Re: VMS732_UPDATE-V06003 Message-ID: <cXXvc3peZ+qn@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <ScAQf.35769$Qh1.234970@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes: > Folks, > ) > For those of you who don't hang out at:   
 	or DECUServe   3 >  http://www.itrc.hp.com/service/patch/mainPage.do / > "VMS732_UPDATE-V0600" was released this week.   9 	http://eisner.decus.org/DECUServe/DECnotes/ECO/1611.HTML    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 13:15:26 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)  Subject: [AVAILMAN] JAVA setup ?, Message-ID: <4412cd6e$1@news.langstoeger.at>  B I recently noticed that AVAILMAN does something I hadn't expected:   $ SHOW SYMBOL JAVA= %DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling 
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