1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 12 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 141       Contents:5 Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists 5 Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists # Re: DNS zone file max version limit # Re: DNS zone file max version limit + Re: Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack? ) Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit  Re: Eve - displaying ESC? 3 OpenVMS Boot Camp Weekly update (Week of March 6th)  Re: Problem with Notes V2.5  Re: Problem with Notes V2.5 $ Re: Switching from TCPIP to MultinetK VMS732_UPDATE-V0600,VMS732_MQ-V0400,VMS732_DDTM-V0100 and required features  WTB RA7X drives   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:24:42 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> > Subject: Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists7 Message-ID: <qqFQf.4657$wQ6.683@bignews6.bellsouth.net>    Rich Jordan wrote:	 > Hunter, C >        this is absolutely fantastic.  I've been trying to get our H > customers who use VMS and TCPIP services for mail to consider PMDF forH > years... Now I can run it at home for my two-domain hobby network mailI > and learn all the good stuff needed to really press the issue when they < > complain about the limitations of the HP-supplied product. > 0 That's what we like to hear!! 8-)  Thanks, Rich. --     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ B PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway for OpenVMS, Tru64, Solaris, & Linux9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:05:27 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> > Subject: Re: ANN: PMDF and PMAS available to OpenVMS Hobbyists, Message-ID: <441365C7.6080001@tsoft-inc.com>   Hunter Goatley wrote: C > Process Software is pleased to announce that PMDF and PreciseMail D > Anti-Spam have been added to the Process Software OpenVMS HobbyistF > program.  They join the Process Software products MultiNet, TCPware,D > and Purveyor as being freely available to OpenVMS Hobbyists with a > valid VMS Hobbyist license.  > ? > Information about PMDF and PMAS can be found on our web site:  >  > http://www.process.com/  > E > Hobbyist license PAKs for all of the products can be requested from @ > our OpenVMS Hobbyist page, accessible from the OpenVMS Center: > ! > http://www.process.com/openvms/  >   I An interesting development.  I have to ask about your (Process Software)  & perceptions on how such would be used.  B As for VMS, TCP/IP, languages, and such, I can see their use in a  hobbyist environment.   I However, when talking about E-Mail, Spam blocking, and such, I don't see  H much of non-commercial use for such products.  People will probably not E be using them strickly on their own systems, limited to mail between  E their systems.  They're going to set the products up to handle their  F e-mail coming from outside.  This is something they normally get with 8 their commercial ISP services which most are paying for.  H So hobbyists will be setting up the products to handle their email, and H probably their family's email, and possibly others also.  Some of these D people will be using the email for their work.  Right now I'm a one G person business, with no real differences between my home and my work.  : My use of the products could be considered commercial use.  G So what's your perspective when hobbyist activity and a small business  2 are basically the same thing?  Is this acceptable?  G Maybe before posting I should go to your web site and read whatever is  : there, but, having already done the typing, I'll ask here.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:43:14 -0500 + From: sol gongola <sdgongola@optonline.com> , Subject: Re: DNS zone file max version limit( Message-ID: <3YLQf.847$Gb4.598@fe10.lga>   Dave Froble wrote: > sol gongola wrote:C >> I want to keep more than the latest version of a bind zone file. C >> A dir/full of the zone file says "No version limit" but there is 3 >> always only the latest version of the zone file.  >>C >> what os doing the zone file purge being done and how can i force & >> it to retain more than one version. >>5 >> OpenVMS V7.2-1, Compaq TCP/IP Version V5.1 - ECO 5  >> >> thank you >> sol > K > Just to cover the basics, is that the only file with only one version in  G > the directory?  Is the directory set up with version limits?  Is the  " > file set up with version limits?  A Sorry, forgot to mention we are using ddns with zone updates from  another machine.  , Only the *.db zone files had single versions9 $dir/full tcpip$bind.dir  showed no default version limit " *.db files have no version limits.  % Repeated use of the following command  $copy zonefile_com.db *.* 7 gives me several generations at the same time but after 8 the next zone update, there was only the latest version, the others were purged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:30:47 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: DNS zone file max version limit, Message-ID: <4413A3D1.6B254702@teksavvy.com>   re: file versions:  H Does your TCPIP$BIND.CONF file contain a "versions" statement ? from the? doc, it appears to only affect logging options ut who knows ...    Also, does:   > DIR/FULL disk:[SYS0]TCPIP$BIND.DIR  reveal no version limits ?  H Note that dynamic updates are new at your version. On my system (at 5.3)H when I run a DHCP server (which sends dynamic updates to my DNS server),, I do see multiple versions of the .DB files.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:21:10 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 4 Subject: Re: Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack?, Message-ID: <4413776B.9DE5C10C@teksavvy.com>   Neil Rieck wrote: N > The MIME utility does not fully integrate with the VMSMAIL user interface to' > send MIME messages over the internet.   N > So here is my question. Does MIME now work with the latest version of TCP/IP& > Services for "OpenVMS version V5.x"?    G Nop, and it isn't MIME's fault, it is the smtp foreign VMSmail protocol C image which securely ads a blank line between its's header and your  stuff to prevent fraud.   G What you need to do is edit the file generated by MIME and turn it into  something like:    $! $!E $! SMTP_SFF infile_name [-logfile logfile_name] [-loglevel log_level]  $!B $MC TCPIP$SMTP_SFF.EXE SYS$INPUT: -logfile sys$output: -loglevel 0 MAIL FROM:<chef@chocolate.com># RCPT TO:<paris_brest@patisserie.fr>  DATA: Message-ID: <5302c$o5rt$4hsf-6-xy--63k-8-n@rf083.n8.3k.34>) From: "Chef Jacques" <chef@chocolate.com>  To: paris_brest@patisserie.fr " Subject: Thank you for your recipe% Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:11:46 -0200  MIME-Version: 1.0 $ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;#          boundary="59F.B.F6.4D_B8_" 
 X-Priority: 3   E <insert the contents of the MIME generated file here, and updatye the 9 boundary string used by MIME in the "Content-Type" line.>      $! $! End of message   F Then you execute this and SFF then creates the appropriate files to be, submitted to the SMTP symbiont for delivery.   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 11:34:09 -0800; From: "george.pagliarulo@hp.com" <george.pagliarulo@hp.com> 2 Subject: Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kitB Message-ID: <1142105649.700027.98790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  G The NOLOGNAM error is nothing to worry about.  Well, nothing for you to D worry about it but it is something for me to look into.  By the timeE the error occurs, all file processing is done and the kit has already G been successfully installed.  You can safely elect to continue with the G installation.  With that said,  I'm not sure where this error is coming E from.  I just re-checked the test logs for this kit and no such error @ was seen on several installations.   I'll have to go look at theB post-installation file in depth to see if there is anything amiss.  F By the way, whether you install the kits separately or together has noG bearing on this error.  The way it occurs would be the same either way.       George Pagliarulo  OpenVMS Patch Release Process    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:52:22 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?$ Message-ID: <duv9pm$nu4$1@online.de>  C In article <1142068945.420272.143440@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,  dooleys@snowy.net.au writes:     > Paul Sture wrote: G > > The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 H > > bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't editK > > past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated, but G > > with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and  > > contents will be preserved.   A As of what version of VMS do lines longer than 255 remain intact?    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 20:13:17 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> < Subject: OpenVMS Boot Camp Weekly update (Week of March 6th)C Message-ID: <1142136797.314091.252060@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>    Dear Newsgroup,    Current status is    Registration goal 200    Folks Registered: 73 Seats committed 83 Percent Full: 36% - 41%  Actual Seats remaining 117  # Number of Countries represented: 12 G Countries represented: Germany, USA, Netherlands, UK, Tenerife (part of = Spain), Switzerland, France, Belgium, Ireland, Canada, Sweden F Switzerland Folks from outside the US: 29 Folks from inside the US: 31  D For the agenda, registration, hotel, questions and other information please visit the web page at:   . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/symposium/index.html  
 Warm Regards, 
 Sue Skonetski  Program Manager    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:56:51 -0600 . From: Bob Blunt <RobertDOTblunt@digitalDOTcom>$ Subject: Re: Problem with Notes V2.5: Message-ID: <DJWdne4cvJhxyY7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com>   tomarsin2015@comcast.net wrote: H > Just for kicks I installed Notes on a VAX 4000-200 with 32 megs or ramH > and a RF73, Decnet Phase IV and TCP v5.1 It seem everything went okay,6 > but when I tried to start Notes I get the following: >  > CAELUM> notes 3 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image DNS$SHARE  > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file0 > $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]DNS$SHARE.EXE; > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 	 > CAELUM>  > . > so I checked and install shows the following > CAELUM> install ! > INSTALL> list [syslib]dns$share  > - > DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB>.EXE 2 >    DNS$SHARE;1      Open Hdr Shar          Lnkbl
 > INSTALL>= > Does Notes require Decnet plus or is there something in the " > installation that I over looked?F > The reason I am asking is I installed Notes on a 3100-85 with DecnetG > Plus TCP v5.1 and Notes works okay. The only difference is the Decnet 
 > version. > thanks	 > phillip  >  Phillip,  D Notes V2.5 definitely does NOT require Phase V (or TCPIP Services). E Utiliization with Phase IV should work dandy (it does in my lab on a  D daily basis).  Please check to see if you have a DCL symbol "notes"  setup for starters.   I Did you have Phase V (OSI, DECnet Plus, whatever) on the system and then  =   revert back to Phase IV?  What VMS version are you running?    bob    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:03:20 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: Re: Problem with Notes V2.5, Message-ID: <4413814A.8BF18878@teksavvy.com>   tomarsin2015@comcast.net wrote: 3 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image DNS$SHARE  > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file0 > $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]DNS$SHARE.EXE; > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed     G >dont have notes$startup in the systartup_vms.com file so I am still at    STARTNET (decnet 4) has:    YS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]STARTNET.COM;1  : $ IF F$SEARCH("SYS$LIBRARY:DNS$SHARE.EXE") .GTS. "" THEN -H   IF .NOT. F$FILE_ATTRIBURES("SYS$LIBRARY:DNS$SHARE.EXE","KNOWN") THEN -:   INSTALL ADD SYS$LIBRARY:DNS$SHARE.EXE/SHARE/PROTECT/OPEN  
 On my system:   ( $ install list sys$library:dns$share.exe  ) DISK$MICHELIN:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB>.EXE 0    DNS$SHARE;1      Open Hdr Shar     Prot Lnkbl- $ install list sys$library:dns$share.exe/full     3 On your system, you are clearly missing the "PROT".   G On my system, DECNET installs it and other software such as allin1 also ) install it if it isn,T installed already.   . Make sure DECNET is started early in the boot.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk- Subject: Re: Switching from TCPIP to Multinet ) Message-ID: <duv636$94k$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   H In article <dusp8802ue7@enews2.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com writes:H >With the news that PMDF and PreciseMail Anti-Spam are now available forJ >Hobbyists, I think I'm even more interested in switching my Alpha from HPM >TCPIP 5.4 to Multinet (I'm interested in switching TCP stacks for the DECnet J >gateway in Multinet).  Are there any problems I should be aware of, or isA >this just a case of uninstalling TCPIP, and installing Multinet?  > J >Also, if I wanted, am I correct that PreciseMail Anti-Spam will work withM >TCPIP, and that I wouldn't have to install anything else in order to use it?  >   J Both PMDF and PMAS will work with DEC TCPIP services, TCPWARE or Multinet. There is a license page at    , http://www.multinet.process.com/license.html  N which seems to be the only place on the process website where hobbyist support for PMDF and PMAS is mentioned.   N Presumably filling this out and submitting it will take you to somewhere where you can download PMDF and PMAS.     O PMAS can work with any SMTP server in passthrough proxy mode ie where PMAS sits O in front of the SMTP server (either on the same system as the SMTP server which B must then be run on a non-standard port or on a different system).J Hence you could run PMAS in this mode with the inbuilt SMTP servers of DEC< TCPIP Services, Multinet or TCPWARE (or the MX smtp server).  K PMDF has a special PMAS channel which allows PMDF to act as the SMTP server N listening on the standard SMTP port and then to pass the mail to PMAS for spam
 checking. M There are advantages and disadvantages to both methods. The main disadvantage M of the proxy approach from a PMDF site's perspective is that messages passing L through the proxy would appear to just come from the ip address of the proxyK rather than from external IP addresses. This would rob PMDF of much of it's K power in being able to do different things to messages depending upon where  they have come from.O On the other hand the proxy approach allows spam messages to be detected and if + desired rejected during the SMTP dialogue.  K (The PMDF channel approach means that PMDF has to have accepted the message K ,ie the SMTP dialogue has completed, before scanning can occur. Hopefully a L future version of PMDF will allow PMAS to be called during the SMTP dialogueG thus retaining the power of PMDF but allowing rejection during the SMTP 
 dialogue.)  D I would expect that a hobbyist would want to use both PMDF and PMAS.  L Assuming the hobbyist version hasn't cut anything out then as well as being 1 a great mailserver standard PMDF also includes :-    1) IMAP server
 2) POP server   6 3) PMDF MAIL - a VMS mail clone which can handle MIME  4) PINE    5) Mail list server H 6) DELIVER   - this is an improved version of the mail handler over the     public domain version  M Just the ability to send and receive MIME mail messages which PMDF MAIL gives ( should be enough reason to install PMDF.      M PMDF TLS - which allows the use of POP, IMAP and SMTP over SSL is an optional G product in PMDF hence I don't know whether that will be included in the O hobbyist offering. (Or for that matter other optional products which link into  & other mail environments such as X400).  
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University     >	Zane >  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:12:28 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)T Subject: VMS732_UPDATE-V0600,VMS732_MQ-V0400,VMS732_DDTM-V0100 and required features$ Message-ID: <duvefs$vm4$1@online.de>  6 I just downloaded VMS732_SYS-V0900.PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE and3 VMS732_PCSI-V0200.PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE and had a look at G VMS732_UPDATE-V0600.txt.  I came to the conclusion that I don't need to H install VMS732_UPDATE-V0600 since I have already installed, individuallyF or as parts of previous update kits, all of the patches I need.  ThereH are a couple I don't need, namely VMS732_MQ-V0400 and VMS732_DDTM-V0100.A However, in the descriptions of these patches, there are certain  H products which are mentioned as REQUIRED features, namely in the former < case IBM MQseries and in the latter case DECDTM,RDB,ACMS,XA.  I Either these are not really features which are required for the patch to  I be installed or these patches should not be part of an update kit, which  ' "should be installed by all customers".   I I suspect the former is the case, i.e. these features are not "required"  A in order to install the patches, but rather there is no point in  I installing them if one does not have these features.  Is that really the   case?    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Mar 2006 17:26:04 -0800 From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net Subject: WTB RA7X drivesA Message-ID: <1142126764.932301.7720@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   F My last RA73 decide to buy the farm today.The drive lasted longer then> many of my dssi/scsi/ide (pc) drives. So I am looking for some$ replacement drive(s). Any RA7X driveF will do. I would like drives that work (thats means no ebay) and comes from somebody thatE has actually tested the drive with a KDA controller (no "I powered it  up and the lights blinked") G and last somewhat cheap. I know that RA7X drives and even RF drives are F getting harder to come by so if they meet the above specs I am willing to pay.  thanks phillip    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.141 ************************