1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 14 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 146       Contents:0 Re: Device Naming: (was OPA0 Console connection) Digital Networks on eBay Re: Digital Networks on eBay+ Re: Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack? ) Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit / Heads up - new BACKUP kit - VMS732_BACKUP-V0500 3 Re: Heads up - new BACKUP kit - VMS732_BACKUP-V0500 ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server? ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server? ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server? ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?  Re: need help with Flakey VLC  Re: need help with Flakey VLC  Newbie Problem Setting Up TCPIP ! Re: Nodename in Accounting File ? C Re: Problems with L&TT (Library and Tape Tools) on V8.2 (Long post)  rtvax300 revisions Re: Serial Console connection  Re: Serial Console connection  Re: Serial Console connection  VMS Updates O Re: VMS732_UPDATE-V0600,VMS732_MQ-V0400,VMS732_DDTM-V0100 and required features % Re: [F$GETQUI] Please explain RAD ;-)   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:26:55 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) 9 Subject: Re: Device Naming: (was OPA0 Console connection) ( Message-ID: <dv71tf$mat$1@pcls4.std.com>  % "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:   I >I understand your comments, never-the-less  it should be possible to use K >names for the devices which are nmemonic,  after all VMS certainly knows    >what L >it has, I shouldn't have to figure out which device is the CD and which theI >DVD or the Floppy or whatever.  IIRC, when Ultrix was replace with OSF-1 : >similar changes were made in the /dev naming conventions.  G It's true that names like that may be useful, but you also have to ask  G what do you label as the DVD (or $9$DVD as you wrote) if there are more  than one, or none?  C An embellishment similar to what's done in the startup template for H microvaxes (but more advanced) might be an excellent and simple additionI to the freeware. Something that scans through the devices and defines the H logicals such as FLOPPY and DVD when and if those devices are found.  DoJ the define /SYS/EXEC/TRANS=(CONCEAL,TERMINAL) and the words FLOPPY and DVDC will appear on the output of things such as $ DIRECTORY rather than C physical names such as DVA0: or DQB0: when you do a command such as H $ DIR FLOPPY:[000000].  The physical names are still there but you don't have to use them.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:38:03 -0500 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>! Subject: Digital Networks on eBay / Message-ID: <44168EFB.10343.22F2E04B@localhost>   ? This is strange.  Did Digital Networks set up an outlet store??   D http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5879923470&ssPage  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------8 Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA < stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html) "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 06:50:08 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> % Subject: Re: Digital Networks on eBay C Message-ID: <1142347808.108438.234550@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    Stanley F. Quayle wrote:A > This is strange.  Did Digital Networks set up an outlet store??  > F > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5879923470&ssPage >  > --Stan Quayle  > Quayle Consulting Inc. >  > ----------: > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX5 > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA > > stan-at-stanq-dot-com   http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html+ > "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option"   G Apparently.  I've seen their stuff listed for about a month now.  I was G contemplating getting the DNAS for my DECserver 900TM but $500 is still G a bit pricy for a home setup.  I wonder if they have a hobbyist option?    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 06:11:23 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 4 Subject: Re: Does OpenVMS MIME work with your stack?3 Message-ID: <kYqO7o$0t1Wo@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <UqrRf.1216$fy1.126253@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes:   K > The good folks at PSC have passed on this interim work-around for my MIME M > problem. I tried it out and it works but I haven't (yet) found any official 9 > OpenVMS documentation describing "/foreign" or "/type".   > /FOREIGN was reportedly described in some other documentation, perhaps X25mail.  E /Type feeds into the "User Defined Flags" value passed to the foreign C transport mechanism (with protocol 2 or greater used to communicate  with those mechanisms).   A A general description of what this means to all foreign protocols C would be impossible, so it seems likely the place for a description ) to appear would be the PSC documentation.   5 >     $MAIL/subj=whatever/foreign/type=2 mime-doc.txt  >  > Note that: >  >     send/foreign/type=2  > ! > also works from within VMSMAIL.   : What does /type=2 accomplish (for the non-Internet case) ?   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 08:39:57 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)2 Subject: Re: Error installing VMS 82A Update 2 kit, Message-ID: <4416815d$1@news.langstoeger.at>  w In article <dv4ns8$6gm$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: I >In article <4414b0f8$1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter  >'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes:  > L >> The VMS732_PCSI V2 has a problem. It forgets to INSTALL REPLACE DCLTABLESP >> Could be easily fixed, but is surely bad behaviour (and bad quality control). > @ >Is it enough to install it out of the box, then INSTALL REPLACE( >DCLTABLES then log out and log back in?   Yes.M But, you could even stay logged in and do a $ SET COM/TAB=SYS$SHARE:DCLTABLES / after the $ INSTALL REPLACE SYS$SHARE:DCLTABLES H It all depends what you want to see/keep in the installation logfile ;-)   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:35:31 +0200 7 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> 8 Subject: Heads up - new BACKUP kit - VMS732_BACKUP-V0500* Message-ID: <4416aa85@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Hello,  > I thought you might be interested to know that we are about to5 ship a new BACKUP ECO for V73-2 - VMS732_BACKUP-V0500  (1-2 weeks)   < The new kit contains several interesting fixes/enhancements:  ? * Information about the PID and target device has been added to 9 BACKUP$_OPERSPEC message, it makes it easier to determine = which BACKUP job made a request when more than one is running   = * Dynamic Volume Expansion support - BACKUP currently ignores @ Dynamic Volume Expansion (DVE) characteristics of a device. WithE the new kit, backup will preserve the expansion size and if requested D the logical size of a device. Two new qualifiers been added - /LIMIT= and /SIZE to allow overriding defaults stored in the saveset.   E * Improved read algorithm - Currently BACKUP floods the I/O subsystem H with as much I/Os as it can, this behavior is not optimal for XP and EVAF storage controllers, with the new kit, BACKUP will issue 8 outstandingD I/Os (in 8 AST threads), the completion AST routine of each I/O willF trigger the next one. The number of outstanding I/Os can be controlledH using the new /IO_LOAD qualifier (we have determined 8 to be the optimal value).    * RMS performance enhancements  : With all these enhancements ~10% reduction in elapsed time> for BACKUP jobs is expected, and 30% reduction in elapsed time0 is expected for users writing savesets to disks.  ) The new kit will not require a reboot....   7 BTW....BACKUP saw MANY improvements lately most of them A will be shipping with V8.3. My Utilities session at the boot camp . will also cover latest happenings with BACKUP.   fwiw,   	 Guy Peleg  OpenVMS Engineering    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:10:11 +0200 7 From: "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> < Subject: Re: Heads up - new BACKUP kit - VMS732_BACKUP-V0500* Message-ID: <4416cec6@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  + "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message = news:1142344861.081413.157910@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... F > Is the new IO_LOAD qualifier another way of controlling the I/O load& > instead of using the process quotas? >    Exactly !!!   B /IO_LOAD controls the number od outstanding I/Os issued by BACKUP.   Guy    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:18:50 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?8 Message-ID: <7tgd12p0s9f80mvnolvhom7e5md5utgue1@4ax.com>  E On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:38:43 -0500, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  wrote:   >d_gillbilly@hotmail.com wrote: E >> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:01:44 GMT, "PEN" <paul.nunez.nosp@m.hp.com> 	 >> wrote:  >>   >>   >>>Hi, >>> O >>>The Advanced Server will apply ACEs to files to track information pertinent  N >>>to Windows clients that is not maintained by OVMS (ie. file attributes and O >>>DOS file size).   The ACE will be updated whenever a client reads the file.  K >>>Though the client user may not have instructed the client to read these  P >>>files, Windows Explorer and other apps freely open/read the first x bytes of M >>>these files (perhaps only those with known file types?) to obtain certain  O >>>attributes/characteristics.  When AS closes such files, it updates the ACE,  M >>>which means the ACL is modified, which means the file header is modified,  1 >>>which means the file revision date is updated.  >>> % >>>I bet that's what you're seeing...  >>>  >>>Paul  >>>  >>   >>   >> Hi Paul,  >>   >>    Good tip.  >>  A >>    These header updates do correspond to files with suppressed K >> PATHWORKS ACE's. If AS wants to set an ACE, I get a header update on the I >> file. I can understand this. But why only selected files. And how do I J >> get this behavious to stop. I have entire shares without any suppressedI >> ACE's, and other shares that I can't seem to make the suppressed ACE's J >> go away. Also, if I rename the file, it MAY stop fiddling with the ACE.I >> I'm still at the consistantly inconsistant stage looking for THE clue.  >>  H >>    Now to look into suppressed ACE's, site configuration and possible >> share/directory issues. >>  G >>    It's all fun until the boss finds out that I won't let this go...  >>       Duane > @ >Windows Explorer may be selective on the files it opens to get K >information.  The filename extension may be a key part of such a decision.  > A >Windoz likes to think that it knows what it, and you, are doing.   @    If only it was that simple and I could blame it on the PC :-)  H    Because this behaviour only happens in only a couple of folders, I amG still working on the assumption that it is behaviour that I can control  or fix.   F    I am trying to eliminate share config problems, so I have created aD share with 2 folders. In one folder I can duplicate my issue, in the6 other I can't. It still seems to be at the file level.  C    I also see the PC app requesting reads on files that don't exist D (possibly it's backup and work files), and maybe the format of thoseA files is triggering some oddity (I've had problems with file name  formats in shares before).  F    I also can't rule out that I may have leftover crud from any one ofE my numerous tests or failures. Some of these shares and files go back G to the early days (I remember configuring dos decnet). This, after all,  is an old development machine.  B    Since some of my software automagically interfaces with more PCG systems than I care to admit (PC's are a money growth opportunity after = all), I'm just being proactive, trying to make sure my mostly G automated interface software and procedures will still behave the way I  expect.   <    Just trying to do the Sherlock thing and rule things out,         Defective Duane    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:56:11 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?8 Message-ID: <u5md12hens3umps6mjcj7hv8aetkh7pci7@4ax.com>  F On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:01:33 GMT, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote:  Y >In article <blmb12d4cnpikniamu7nf97gksl1mj5umv@4ax.com>, d_gillbilly@hotmail.com writes:  > G >  I've done a little more digging.  Something on the client is opening G >  the files, and Advanced Server is updating the ACE -- it may well be F >  that the client is retrieving an icon, or other such bits, from the >  file(s) involved. >       Thanks Hoff.   @    I certainly haven't ruled out a PC interation. I am hoping to@ re-learn packet capture today. Confirming that the PC is sendingH identical requests to AS regardless of the folder or share, will lead me7 back to the alpha again (I think). Sign or seal anyone?   +    And I hope that it can't find an icon...   $    Those are alpha executables. :-)   
      Duane    O > ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> ----------------------------- L >    For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faqO > --------------------------- pure personal opinion --------------------------- H >       Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 08:57:39 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?3 Message-ID: <xvcXH3$2W5rU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   X In article <7tgd12p0s9f80mvnolvhom7e5md5utgue1@4ax.com>, d_gillbilly@hotmail.com writes: > B >    If only it was that simple and I could blame it on the PC :-) > J >    Because this behaviour only happens in only a couple of folders, I amI > still working on the assumption that it is behaviour that I can control 	 > or fix.   D    It may depend on the folder settings.  Windows probably will lookH    into some files for icons, but it may not if the folder option is set    to list instead of icons.  G    Or it may be Office.  Office has a habit of installing with the idea 2    it should search all your files and index them.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:19:53 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?8 Message-ID: <vgqd1258j7hujmisknoicpq346r19g9d3e@4ax.com>  F On 14 Mar 2006 08:57:39 -0600, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:  Y >In article <7tgd12p0s9f80mvnolvhom7e5md5utgue1@4ax.com>, d_gillbilly@hotmail.com writes:  >>  C >>    If only it was that simple and I could blame it on the PC :-)  >>  K >>    Because this behaviour only happens in only a couple of folders, I am J >> still working on the assumption that it is behaviour that I can control
 >> or fix. > E >   It may depend on the folder settings.  Windows probably will look I >   into some files for icons, but it may not if the folder option is set  >   to list instead of icons.  > H >   Or it may be Office.  Office has a habit of installing with the idea3 >   it should search all your files and index them.        Thanks for that tip Bob.  )     So many things to check and rule out.        Still poking around,       Duane    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:06:56 -0700 " From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>& Subject: Re: need help with Flakey VLC: Message-ID: <79OdnX4RG4C7morZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>   Dave Froble wrote:  J >> I looked in this one and it is a little black box that may be soldered E >> to the motherboard.  I was hoping someone had a supplier of these   >> little black boxes. >> >> > H > Have you tried David Turner?  He recently posted about having similar 5 > parts for Alpha, I think.  Might be the same thing.  >   I Thnx, I'll check out if he has any, and if they are soldered or are just   plug-in modules.     --   Where are we going?   And why am I in this handbasket?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:07:16 -0700 " From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>& Subject: Re: need help with Flakey VLC: Message-ID: <79OdnXkRG4CkmorZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>   Ian Miller wrote:   3 > replace the DALLAS RTC chip  and it will be fine.  >    Where do you get them?   --   Where are we going?   And why am I in this handbasket?   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:03:23 GMT * From: Gary Parker <g.j.parker@lboro.ac.uk>( Subject: Newbie Problem Setting Up TCPIP4 Message-ID: <2006031414041216807-gjparker@lboroacuk>   Hi all, B 	I've done a fresh install on OpenVMS 7.2 on my VAX 4000-500 this G morning. Installation went smoothly and I installed and loaded the UCX  B license. Next I installed "DEC VAXVMS TCPIP V5.0-9" from the kits G directory on the 7.2 CD. This also concluded with no errors. Following  D this I next ran '@sys$manager:tcpip$config' to configure the TCP/IP E services. I gave the machine a static IP address correct for my LAN,  E enabled the FTP and TELNET services, gave the machine a hostname and  < DNS server then tried to start the TCP/IP services from the E configuration menu. Once started I am unable to telnet or ftp to the  F machine from another machine on my network and it does not respond to C ping requests. The machine is connected to a 10/100MB/s switch via  F twisted pair ethernet and an AUI/twisted pair tranceiver connected to D the AUI port on the K680-A module. The tranceiver is showing a link  light, asis the switch.   F Here is the output from starting the TCP/IP services. Note that there B is a very long pause after '%TCPIP-I-DEFINTE, defining interfaces'   <snip>   Begin Startup...  . %TCPIP-I-NORMAL, timezone information verified= %RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0000021E 8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  14-MAR-2006 13:35:57.59  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on HOOVER INTERnet Loaded   C %TCPIP-I-INFO, The Internet driver and ACP were successfully loaded 3 %TCPIP-I-SETLOCAL, setting domain and/or local host * %TCPIP-I-STARTCOMM, starting communication8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  14-MAR-2006 13:35:58.47  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on HOOVER INTERnet Started  . %TCPIP-I-SETPROTP, setting protocol parameters% %TCPIP-I-DEFINTE, defining interfaces 0 %TCPIP-E-INVINTER, error defining interface: ZE0, -TCPIP-I-ACPQIO, failure on internet ACP QIO' -SYSTEM-F-IVADDR, invalid media address ' -SYSTEM-F-IVADDR, invalid media address , %TCPIP-E-INVINTERNAM, invalid interface nameH -TCPIP-I-DRIVERQIO, interface  operation from internet driver QIO failed- -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available B %TCPIP-E-DELINTER, cannot delete interface ZE0; review additional  messages to co
 rrect problem , -TCPIP-I-ACPQIO, failure on internet ACP QIO, -TCPIP-E-INVINTERNAM, invalid interface name$ %TCPIP-I-ENABSERV, enabling services8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  14-MAR-2006 13:37:29.41  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on HOOVER  INTERnet ACP Activate FTP Server  ) %TCPIP-I-STARTNAME, starting name service 8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  14-MAR-2006 13:37:29.43  %%%%%%%%%%%( Message from user TCPIP TELNET on HOOVER, Protocol TELNET is started and now available  9 %TCPIP-I-LOADSERV, loading TCPIP server proxy information 8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  14-MAR-2006 13:37:29.43  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on HOOVER# INTERnet ACP Activate TELNET Server   A %TCPIP-I-SERVLOADED, auxiliary server loaded with 0 proxy records 8 -TCPIP-I-SERVSKIP, skipped 0 communication proxy records1 -TCPIP-I-SERVTOTAL, total of 0 proxy records read  Startup request completed. Press Return to continue ...   <snip>   Gary   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:05:29 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>* Subject: Re: Nodename in Accounting File ?+ Message-ID: <47npsaFg7mqhU1@individual.net>    Ian Miller wrote: H > I like the idea of using the user-specified records as a workaround toG > record the nodename as this can be implemented on whatever version of  > VMS. > I > A small program as part of your housekeeping routine which starts a new = > accounting file that adds a record containing the nodename.  > B > For future a extended version of the FILE record sounds just the	 > ticket.  >   I Not affecting the accounting file, but related in terms of tracking what   ran where, is to do a    $ write sys$output nodename   # at the beginning of each batch job.    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 10:10:06 -0800; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> L Subject: Re: Problems with L&TT (Library and Tape Tools) on V8.2 (Long post)C Message-ID: <1142359806.891414.225270@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   4 Here's the response I finally got from the LTT Team:   Hello John,   . I am extremely sorry for the delayed response.  E At the moment we do not support OVMS 8.2. The only supported versions  of" OVMS with LTT are 7.3-1 and 7.3-2.$ Sorry for the in convenience causes.  G I will give your request as an enhancement request to the program team.  Thanks.    <signature removed>    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 04:55:47 -0800( From: "Mehrdad Ardavan" <support@isi.ir> Subject: rtvax300 revisions C Message-ID: <1142340947.227822.199590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   	 Dear List   C I fased a problem with rtvax300 cpu spare , after I changed the old @ card with a new one , this message comes up: VAXELN-F-BOOT ERROR module rev out of range , 0 would you please let me know about this problem. With Regards	 M.Ardavan    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:33:56 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> & Subject: Re: Serial Console connection( Message-ID: <ops6etiuiizgicya@hyrrokkin>  H On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:27:49 -0500, FredK <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>   wrote:   > 0 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message$ > news:ops6dtu9g8zgicya@hyrrokkin...I >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:28:20 GMT, Hoff Hoffman <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote:  >>J >> > :Just to make sure I understand,  of the two ports (in this case) one
 >> > beingJ >> > :TTA0 and the other OPA0,  do I have to be on OPA0 to speak to SRM or
 >> > can I >> > :also do it from TTA0? K >> >  The ports are COM1 and COM2, and what the operating system calls them J >> >   and what the firmware calls them and what the documentation calls   >> them K >> >   aren't necessarily tied together.  The settings vary.  I've tried to J >> >   make that clear in the FAQ, and have further tried to make it clearF >> >   what tends to modify the names.  Key factors can be the OpenVMS	 > release D >> >   involved and whether or not the console is set to SERIAL or   >> GRAPHICS. >>H >> With console set to serial are TTA0 and OPA0 interchangeable in the   >> senseI >> that either could be used to talk to SRM?  I could check it out nect    >> time 	 >> I have 5 >> one down, but it is always better to visit Delphi.  > I > When the SRM is set to the serial console, OpenVMS will always name the H > serial port OPA0.  This is because we will always load OPDRIVER for itI > during the boot, and on Alpha we will then talk to the port through the I > firmware callbacks.  When the console is set to graphics, OPDRIVER is    > loadedC > for the VGA graphics (which is also talked to throught firmware    > callbacks) -I > and the graphics console is called OPA0.  In that case, the serial port G > (which the console is not controlling) will have a serial port driver J > (Y*DRIVER) loaded and it will be named TTx0.  The exact name will depend3 > upon the hardware platform - but is usually TTA0.  >  > K Thanks, Fred,  My confusion arises from the fact that if I try to connect    through K the serial port to another system, COM1 is named TTA0 and COM2 OPA0.  Now   
 it is trueL that I have console set to serial, if it had been graphics what would have   been the
 name of COM2?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:11:04 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>& Subject: Re: Serial Console connection* Message-ID: <4416dd0e@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message" news:ops6etiuiizgicya@hyrrokkin...H > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:27:49 -0500, FredK <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> > wrote: >  > > 2 > > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message& > > news:ops6dtu9g8zgicya@hyrrokkin...K > >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:28:20 GMT, Hoff Hoffman <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote:  > >>L > >> > :Just to make sure I understand,  of the two ports (in this case) one > >> > beingL > >> > :TTA0 and the other OPA0,  do I have to be on OPA0 to speak to SRM or > >> > can I > >> > :also do it from TTA0? H > >> >  The ports are COM1 and COM2, and what the operating system calls themJ > >> >   and what the firmware calls them and what the documentation calls	 > >> them J > >> >   aren't necessarily tied together.  The settings vary.  I've tried toL > >> >   make that clear in the FAQ, and have further tried to make it clearH > >> >   what tends to modify the names.  Key factors can be the OpenVMS > > release D > >> >   involved and whether or not the console is set to SERIAL or > >> GRAPHICS. > >>H > >> With console set to serial are TTA0 and OPA0 interchangeable in the
 > >> senseI > >> that either could be used to talk to SRM?  I could check it out nect 	 > >> time  > >> I have 7 > >> one down, but it is always better to visit Delphi.  > > K > > When the SRM is set to the serial console, OpenVMS will always name the J > > serial port OPA0.  This is because we will always load OPDRIVER for itK > > during the boot, and on Alpha we will then talk to the port through the I > > firmware callbacks.  When the console is set to graphics, OPDRIVER is 
 > > loadedC > > for the VGA graphics (which is also talked to throught firmware  > > callbacks) -K > > and the graphics console is called OPA0.  In that case, the serial port I > > (which the console is not controlling) will have a serial port driver L > > (Y*DRIVER) loaded and it will be named TTx0.  The exact name will depend5 > > upon the hardware platform - but is usually TTA0.  > >  > > K > Thanks, Fred,  My confusion arises from the fact that if I try to connect 	 > through K > the serial port to another system, COM1 is named TTA0 and COM2 OPA0.  Now  > it is trueL > that I have console set to serial, if it had been graphics what would have
 > been the > name of COM2?  >   5 I try to stay away from the artificial COM1/2 labels.   K It is platform dependent.  On a DS10 when the console is set to serial, the J second serial port is the console port and it is named OPA0, and the firstI serial port is named TTA0.  When booted from the graphics head, the first L console port is still named TTA0, but the second port is no longer OPA0 - itG is TTB0.  So we tried in this case (and I think most cases) to keep the L non-console device names the same and the console serial line is either OPA0. or TTB0 depending on how the system is booted.  L In the COM1/2 naming convention, COM1 is always TTA0 and COM2 is either OPA0# or TTB0 - at least in this example.   L There is at least one platform where it gets a little odd - the Pelican (theJ small DEC3000 turbochannel system) where the mouse port has to also change9 names (it is OPA3 or TTx0 depending on how it is booted).    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:29:48 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>& Subject: Re: Serial Console connection, Message-ID: <4416e16d$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   OOOPS.  Correction:   7 > I try to stay away from the artificial COM1/2 labels.  > I > It is platform dependent.  On a DS10 when the console is set to serial,  the L > second serial port is the console port and it is named OPA0, and the firstK > serial port is named TTA0.  When booted from the graphics head, the first J > SERIAL port is still named TTA0, but the second port is no longer OPA0 - it     ^^^^^^^^ (serial not console)I > is TTB0.  So we tried in this case (and I think most cases) to keep the I > non-console device names the same and the console serial line is either  OPA00 > or TTB0 depending on how the system is booted. > I > In the COM1/2 naming convention, COM1 is always TTA0 and COM2 is either  OPA0% > or TTB0 - at least in this example.  > I > There is at least one platform where it gets a little odd - the Pelican  (theL > small DEC3000 turbochannel system) where the mouse port has to also change; > names (it is OPA3 or TTx0 depending on how it is booted).  >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 09:17:17 -0800 From: dan.ryan@cgha.com  Subject: VMS UpdatesB Message-ID: <1142356637.741280.71160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  G I apologize if this is posted somewhere already, but I am fairly new at G VMS administrator.   I know there are updates to VMS, but is there some E notification of updates that are sent out when there are new releases F I know Microsoft had it where if there was an update, especially if itG was critical or serious, they would send out an email.  However, I have D not heard if there is one from HP, that one can sign up for.  I knowG the updates are out on HP's ftp site, but I though I would ask if there  was an easier way.   Appreciate any advice.   Thanks,    Dan Ryan Group Health Associates    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:43:42 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)X Subject: Re: VMS732_UPDATE-V0600,VMS732_MQ-V0400,VMS732_DDTM-V0100 and required features$ Message-ID: <dv5vnu$l8u$1@online.de>  G In article <%cnRf.39858$CI6.27982@trnddc07>, John Santos <john@egh.com>  writes:   F > >>:However, in the descriptions of these patches, there are certain M > >>:products which are mentioned as REQUIRED features, namely in the former  A > >>:case IBM MQseries and in the latter case DECDTM,RDB,ACMS,XA.  > F > Not true.  The MQ patch is required for MQSeries.  MQSeries is *NOT*D > required for installing the MQ patch.  Same for the other patches.  F ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/alpha/V7.3-2/VMS732_MQ-V0400.txt  $     Required Features:  IBM MQseries  H ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/alpha/V7.3-2/VMS732_DDTM-V0100.txt  *     Required Features:  DECDTM,RDB,ACMS,XA  # > You are misreading the list under  > > >       INSTALL_2 : To be installed by all customers using the) >                   following feature(s):   F No, see above, I'm talking about a different field in the description.  D > If you are using the optional feature, then the patch is required.- > If you are not, then the patch is optional.   F Yes, that's what I think, but that is not what the text above implies.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Mar 2006 11:11:12 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER). Subject: Re: [F$GETQUI] Please explain RAD ;-), Message-ID: <4416a4d0$1@news.langstoeger.at>  ` In article <44163C13.905BBB36@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:I >My question would be: What does G$GETQUI return for a queue that's never  >had a RAD set on it?    Try it and tell us.  I did (twice) and it was -1.  F But then again, I had this (and still have some other) batch queue(s),C where F$GETQUI tells "0" and SHOW QUEUE doesn't tell "/RAD=0"! Why?   H I also didn't test, if all nodes in a cluster always tell the same aboutG the same (clusterwide) queue, so far. (I expect so, but haven't tested)   H >Between that and the -1 response, it seems fairly straight-forward what7 >to expect, even if the doc. is not 100% clear on this.   K As I understand the doc, RAD is the number of the /RAD and -1 is for /NORAD    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.146 ************************                                                                                                                                                                  