1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 17 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 152       Contents:C Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution? C Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution?  Re: Confused drives in RAID  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Re: Eve - displaying ESC?  Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ?/ Re: Intalation of OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 question / Re: Intalation of OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 question + Is VMS Security being dumbed-down for Java? ) Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs ) Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs ) Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs ) Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server? ? Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server? : Scholarships to the OpenVMS Advanced Technical Boot Camp -* Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS* Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS) Smart Array Adapters for VMS on Integrity 5 Re: USB Options on OpenVMS (was Re: Mtools for VMS(?)  Re: VXT 2000+ monitor options  Re: VXT 2000+ monitor options ! Week of March 13 Boot Camp Update  Re: [AVAILMAN] JAVA setup ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:02:35 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com L Subject: Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution?8 Message-ID: <e6il12lhvkoh8hgv2bh2i9j4g0ilclc56v@4ax.com>  , On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:48:57 -0500, JF Mezei% <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:    >d_gillbilly@hotmail.com wrote: C >> Unless the PS generated is specific for a printer, I don't think H >> a printer is even required. But if it wasn't a printer, would DCPS beE >> the appropriate solution? (only because they seem to have the only  >> native VMS PS converter :-( >  > ' >If you have fairly simple ascii files:  > @ >CONVERT/DOC myfile.txt/format=TEXT  myfile.ps/format=POSTSCRIPT > ' >(not sure if it is "TEXT" or "ASCII").  > 1 >But I don't think it does ANSI escape sequences.   6 CONVERT/DOC myfile.txt/FORMAT=TEXT myfile.ps/FORMAT=PS  A I have used this, but in this case, I am using DCPS to take a PS  F form and merge it with a ANSI file (that may or may not contain escapeE sequences) and sending it to a PS printer. Now I want to enhance this B procedure to produce a file that I can email (without breaking theD existing functionality). Since I am already familiar (just not good)G with PS, we thought that the easiest way to achieve this was to convert @ the PS to PDF and then I have a "portable", searchable document.   > G >BTW, when using the term "form" you need to qualify this. VMS uses the F >term "form" to specify a group of print parameters applied to a job ( >SHOW QUEUE/FORM/FULL  >     My form is indeed a DEFINE/FORM.6 It is written in PS and stored in SYS$LIBRARY:POST.TLB? DCPS interacts with it through the P3 param when starting DCPS.  Prints on every page.  Works flawlessly.   E But when I try to duplicate this functionality, I have to extract the D form, and add it to every page (what good is a pdf that only has theF boxes on page 1?). Works flawlessly on a 1 page document. I just can't% seem to get pages 2-x to work (yet).     > H >And in Postscript a "form" is  Postscript level 2 feature that lets youG >define a postscript function to draw a form, and it is only rasterized H >once, and subsequent calls to that form are much faster because it uses  >an in-memory image of the form. >   F I don't use this. I prefer stuff I can read. It's much easier to debug :-)    > H >And in the "real" world, a form refers to a page with pretty logos  and >boxes with data in them :-)  F This is exactly the result (minus the graphic logo). Looks good on theG printer. Now I want my app to bypass the printer and email it directly.    But I've botched the code...  E And I was hoping to cheat by capturing the PS dumped out by DCPS. But D it's not supported, and the resultant PS is even harder to read than my garble. :-)     Thanks again JF,     Wearing too many hats,	     Duane    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:15:37 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com L Subject: Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution?8 Message-ID: <jujl12h6c79ga5b56k3tr9rj5ed498u85q@4ax.com>  7 On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:48:04 GMT, "Jeffrey H. Coffield" & <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com> wrote:   >d_gillbilly@hotmail.com wrote:  >> Hello fellow VMSer's, >>  @ >>    I am currently developing a proof of concept for customer.B >> Instead of printing a document, they want to email it. By usingF >> a little DCL, lib$spawn, ghostscript, mime and sff, I can send out,D >> as PDF's, a very high percentage of my output. I can even extractC >> setup files from POST.TLB, marry it with an ANSI data stream and D >> email single pages. But I can't seem to turn the page (it createsB >> corrupted PDF's). It could be a problem with ghostscript or theA >> coding of the postscript in the library (but I think I'm doing ? >> something to corrupt a dictionary stack when I marry the two F >> data streams). Then it occurred to me that I'm trying to duplicate E >> the functionality of DCPS, so instead of re-inventing yet another  K >> wheel, I decided to see if I could capture the output from a DCPS queue.  >> > H >I do a lot of this sort of thing for my customers using Ghostscript to H >convert ps to pdf. The earlier versions of Ghostscript have significantD >problems creating pdf files. I use version 8.51 (which I have also J >ported to Itanium). If you send me a sample ps file and it's setup file, < >I will take a look at it to see if the problems are simple. >  >Jeff Coffield   Oh my, how obvious...   " AFPL Ghostscript 6.50 (2000-12-02)  - Maybe I am trying to solve the wrong problem.   A I assumed it was my coding as it only doesn't work when I have to @ do a page turn (and that was new code that I had added). I never$ though to print the PS directly. :-(  ; Even if I find out that it was my problem, I'll upgrade GS.    Thanks Jeffery,   '    Finding support for the unsupported, 
      Duane   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:51:16 +0100 ( From: S <soterroatyahoodotcom@yahoo.com>$ Subject: Re: Confused drives in RAID6 Message-ID: <pan.2006.03.17.07.51.14.860000@yahoo.com>   Hi and thanks both of you,A As 'make optimal' is obviously no solution and I don't see myself H gravedigging for data sectors, I'm afraid I'll have to let backup do itsC little magic. Nevertheless, thanks a lot for your input once again.    Cheers,  S    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:09:46 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>" Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?+ Message-ID: <47vg7bFhpnlfU1@individual.net>   
 AEF wrote: > Paul Sture wrote:  >  >>dooleys@snowy.net.au wrote:  >> >>>Paul Sture wrote: >>>  >>> G >>>>The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 H >>>>bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't editK >>>>past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated, but G >>>>with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and  >>>>contents will be preserved.  >  > I > Are you sure about this? You EDIT/EDT a file, then WRITE that file back 9 > to disk, and lines longer than 255 chars are preserved?  >   F Here's a post from me in DEC-2001, when I think I was on V7.3 (Alpha):   http://tinyurl.com/nlgsx  H "And I did a limited test with a small file > 255 characters per record.D Even though EDT claims to truncate these records, it appears that itF only  does so for display purposes, writing the complete records on an EXIT."     > G >>>You can of course insert a carriage-return (^M) to shorten the line, * >>>make your changes, then remove the <CR> >>>Phil  >>>  >>G >>Thanks for that tip Phil. For many years my favourite editor has been ( >>EDIT/TPU, so I hadn't thought of that. >  > E > Can one of you please clarify this trick? If the line is truncated, G > it's too late to put in the ^M character, so how do you put it in? If B > you delete the ^M and the line goes over 255 chars, won't it get > truncated? > E > Oh, are you talking about lines .gt. 80 but .lt. 256 chars? OK, but < > that's quite a context switch without a proper transition. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:08:51 -0500 - From: "Jim Agnew" <brainwavesurfer@gmail.com> " Subject: Re: Eve - displaying ESC?I Message-ID: <a184d6630603170908x7a16b240v61af41a40af411a9@mail.gmail.com>   ( ------=_Part_6633_17582770.1142615331853, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L I just now tested that on a vms 5.5-2 system.  the data record was truncate= d 
 on save...  2 however, the newer versions may be "nicer"...  ;-)   J.  5 On 3/17/06, Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch> wrote:  >  > AEF wrote: > > Paul Sture wrote:  > >  > >>dooleys@snowy.net.au wrote:  > >> > >>>Paul Sture wrote: > >>>  > >>> I > >>>>The only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255 J > >>>>bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, you can't editI > >>>>past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that longer lines are truncated,  > but I > >>>>with later versions of VMS at least, the original record length and ! > >>>>contents will be preserved.  > >  > > K > > Are you sure about this? You EDIT/EDT a file, then WRITE that file back ; > > to disk, and lines longer than 255 chars are preserved?  > >  > H > Here's a post from me in DEC-2001, when I think I was on V7.3 (Alpha): >  > http://tinyurl.com/nlgsx > J > "And I did a limited test with a small file > 255 characters per record.F > Even though EDT claims to truncate these records, it appears that itH > only  does so for display purposes, writing the complete records on an > EXIT." >  >  > > I > >>>You can of course insert a carriage-return (^M) to shorten the line, , > >>>make your changes, then remove the <CR>	 > >>>Phil  > >>>  > >>I > >>Thanks for that tip Phil. For many years my favourite editor has been * > >>EDIT/TPU, so I hadn't thought of that. > >  > > G > > Can one of you please clarify this trick? If the line is truncated, I > > it's too late to put in the ^M character, so how do you put it in? If D > > you delete the ^M and the line goes over 255 chars, won't it get > > truncated? > > G > > Oh, are you talking about lines .gt. 80 but .lt. 256 chars? OK, but > > > that's quite a context switch without a proper transition. > >  > >  >   ( ------=_Part_6633_17582770.1142615331853+ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  Content-Disposition: inline   L I just now tested that on a vms 5.5-2 system.&nbsp; the data record was tru=L ncated on save...<br><br>however, the newer versions may be &quot;nicer&quo=L t;...&nbsp; ;-)<br><br>J.<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 3/17/0=! 6, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"> L Paul Sture</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.sture@bluewin.ch">paul.sture@blue=L win.ch</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord=L er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-l= eft: 1ex;"> L AEF wrote:<br>&gt; Paul Sture wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:d=L ooleys@snowy.net.au">dooleys@snowy.net.au</a> wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt=L ;&gt;Paul Sture wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;T=B he only drawback with EDT is that display lines are limited to 255L <br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;bytes, so if you have longer lines in your PCL files, y=L ou can't edit<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;past byte 255. EDIT/EDT will claim that lo=L nger lines are truncated, but<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;with later versions of VMS=)  at least, the original record length and L <br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;contents will be preserved.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Are=L  you sure about this? You EDIT/EDT a file, then WRITE that file back<br>&gt=I ; to disk, and lines longer than 255 chars are preserved?<br>&gt;<br><br> L Here's a post from me in DEC-2001, when I think I was on V7.3 (Alpha):<br><=L br><a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/nlgsx">http://tinyurl.com/nlgsx</a><br><br=L >&quot;And I did a limited test with a small file &gt; 255 characters per r= ecord.L <br>Even though EDT claims to truncate these records, it appears that it<br=L >only&nbsp;&nbsp;does so for display purposes, writing the complete records=L  on an<br>EXIT.&quot;<br><br><br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;You can of course inse=. rt a carriage-return (^M) to shorten the line,L <br>&gt;&gt;&gt;make your changes, then remove the &lt;CR&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&g=L t;Phil<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Thanks for that tip Phil. For=L  many years my favourite editor has been<br>&gt;&gt;EDIT/TPU, so I hadn't t= hought of that. L <br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Can one of you please clarify this trick? If the l=L ine is truncated,<br>&gt; it's too late to put in the ^M character, so how =L do you put it in? If<br>&gt; you delete the ^M and the line goes over 255 c= hars, won't it getL <br>&gt; truncated?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Oh, are you talking about lines .gt. 80=L  but .lt. 256 chars? OK, but<br>&gt; that's quite a context switch without =? a proper transition.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br></blockquote></div><br>   * ------=_Part_6633_17582770.1142615331853--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:38 +0100 ( From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>' Subject: Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? < Message-ID: <e6f4f$441a857e$82a13cad$27351@news1.tudelft.nl>   John Malmberg wrote: > JOUKJ wrote: >  >> Klaus-D. Bohn wrote:  >>B >>> Yes, i know. But i found only the old and not a newer version. >>> L >> But it is there see : http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html >> and look for the gtk2+ item.  >  > F > I would not consider Linker warnings to be something that should be H > ignored.  It usually is an indication that something serious is wrong  > with the build procedure. F I know exactly why I get them : It is due to the way I generate in an F aotomatic way option files for shareable images. I first create a map C file with a link command and leave out all libraries I do not want  I included in the "public routines" for the shareable image to be created.  H This gives a lot of linker errors. Than I relink with all libraries and D the created option file to create the correct shareable image. This ' second link is without any link-errors.      > D >> Note that it is realy "alpha" and not finished. I got some tests A >> running correctly but only on screens which ghave the Xrender  D >> Extenstion. So hardly anything works yet on a native VMS display. >  > H > So far I have not found anything that requires the Xrender Extension, I > but I have not yet tried building anything that requires glib 2, since  4 > my build of glib 2.x is not yet somewhat "stable". > A > There are 59 tests in glib 2.8.6, and I do not see any of them   > attempting to do X-11 output.  > K > Of the 59 tests, 4 will not run on OpenVMS 8.2 for the following reasons:  > I > Test child-test fails because it needs a UNIX style fork() and can not  $ > be quickly changed to use vfork(). > I > Test convert-test fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N for it kit  K > supply converters for the CP1255 character set, and I do not know of any  ; > alias names for it that might be present in the I18N kit.  > E > Test file-test fails because it is testing for symbolic links, and  I > unless you are on the 8.3 Eft or using the RMS SYMLINKS SDK, those are   > not there. > F > Test unicode-encoding fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N kit G > supply converters for the UTF-16 character set.  And again, I do not  9 > know of any aliases for that set that might be present.  > E > I still have 2 tests failing, and 2 tests that are generating some  H > diagnostics that I have not yet fully investigated.  The rest are now  > passing for me. C The problem for me is not glib2, but gkt2 which depends many other  C packages. So you probably made your own port of glib2. Maybe it is  G worthwhile to merge my one and yours and than try to get them into the   "official distro"    >  > In cairo 1.0.2:  > G > Test path-data is checks for the behavior of passing an out of range  C > error status to the error handler and expecting the results of a  D > previous version of cairo, and is not compatible with the current - > version, which exits with an assert() call.  > K > Test ft-font-create-for-ft-face is broken in that it is selecting a face  J > which does not exist and does not check the error, and starts passing a E > truncated structure to other routines.  Eventually this causes bad   > things to happen.  > D > I am seeing some tests in cairo failing from what looks like some 1 > rounding issues on floating point calculations.  > K > So far none of these look like OpenVMS specific issues.  A google search  G > is showing that LINUX on x86 does floating point precision different   > than other platforms. D hmm... you seem to get better results then me. Did you do something E special? All png-tests fail on my machine and the X11-tests need the   Xrender-extention      >  > In gettext 0.14.5: > J > The msgexec program is trying to use fork() in a way that will not work K > on OpenVMS, and the msgfilter program is trying to set non-blocking I/O.  E >  I have not looked at converting them to be able to run on OpenVMS.  > K > The full make check step takes about 36 hours on a 466Mhz DS10 with fast   > wide SCSI disks. > H > I am still working on resolving the differences that glib and gettext F > have revealed between gnu libiconv and the iconv + I18N kit that is I > supplied by HP.  Currently I have 14 tests failing out of the 227 test  J > that were run, mostly because of missing character sets.  22 tests were H > not run because the test procedure determined that the character sets % > required for them were not present.  > C >> Also be prepared to install a lot of packages and do some (yet)  J >> undocumented configuration. If you have questions ask them me off line.> You tested it better than I. Probably I never use the gettext % capabilities in any ofv the programs.    >  > K > The gnome prefix has not been registered with HP, so "gnome$" should not  I > be used in logical names, symbols, or filenames.  Use "gnome_" instead.  > H > The use of $ in public program symbols, filenames, logical names, and G > DCL symbols is reserved to HP or the registered owners of facilities. C > See the OpenVMS FAQ for information on how to register a facility  I did not know   >   I > And please who ever may be doing porting and getting your changes back  I > into the main distribution sites, do not name MMS description files or  K > DCL command files makefile.vms.  This breaks building the products under  G > GNV as the GNV gnu make utility will try use makefile.vms instead of   > makefile, and then fail.: The ones I create are normmally descrip.mms so that is OK.   > / >> All help making this port better is welcome.  >  > J > As near as I can tell, there appears to be at least 5 or more different J > people or groups now independently working on porting the components of A > GTK+ 2.x or other required libraries to OpenVMS with almost no   > coordination between them. > J > Discussions of such activity would be on topic for the vmsnet.vms-posix H > newsgroup, and announcements of milestones would be on topic for both  > there and this forum. . Probably we need also some common source base.   >  > -John # > malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  > Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:44:27 +0100 ( From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>' Subject: Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? 3 Message-ID: <441A84FB.1060100@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>    John Malmberg wrote: > JOUKJ wrote: >  >> Klaus-D. Bohn wrote:  >>B >>> Yes, i know. But i found only the old and not a newer version. >>> L >> But it is there see : http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html >> and look for the gtk2+ item.  >  > F > I would not consider Linker warnings to be something that should be H > ignored.  It usually is an indication that something serious is wrong  > with the build procedure. F I know exactly why I get them : It is due to the way I generate in an F aotomatic way option files for shareable images. I first create a map C file with a link command and leave out all libraries I do not want  I included in the "public routines" for the shareable image to be created.  H This gives a lot of linker errors. Than I relink with all libraries and D the created option file to create the correct shareable image. This ' second link is without any link-errors.      > D >> Note that it is realy "alpha" and not finished. I got some tests A >> running correctly but only on screens which ghave the Xrender  D >> Extenstion. So hardly anything works yet on a native VMS display. >  > H > So far I have not found anything that requires the Xrender Extension, I > but I have not yet tried building anything that requires glib 2, since  4 > my build of glib 2.x is not yet somewhat "stable". > A > There are 59 tests in glib 2.8.6, and I do not see any of them   > attempting to do X-11 output.  > K > Of the 59 tests, 4 will not run on OpenVMS 8.2 for the following reasons:  > I > Test child-test fails because it needs a UNIX style fork() and can not  $ > be quickly changed to use vfork(). > I > Test convert-test fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N for it kit  K > supply converters for the CP1255 character set, and I do not know of any  ; > alias names for it that might be present in the I18N kit.  > E > Test file-test fails because it is testing for symbolic links, and  I > unless you are on the 8.3 Eft or using the RMS SYMLINKS SDK, those are   > not there. > F > Test unicode-encoding fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N kit G > supply converters for the UTF-16 character set.  And again, I do not  9 > know of any aliases for that set that might be present.  > E > I still have 2 tests failing, and 2 tests that are generating some  H > diagnostics that I have not yet fully investigated.  The rest are now  > passing for me. C The problem for me is not glib2, but gkt2 which depends many other  C packages. So you probably made your own port of glib2. Maybe it is  G worthwhile to merge my one and yours and than try to get them into the   "official distro"    >  > In cairo 1.0.2:  > G > Test path-data is checks for the behavior of passing an out of range  C > error status to the error handler and expecting the results of a  D > previous version of cairo, and is not compatible with the current - > version, which exits with an assert() call.  > K > Test ft-font-create-for-ft-face is broken in that it is selecting a face  J > which does not exist and does not check the error, and starts passing a E > truncated structure to other routines.  Eventually this causes bad   > things to happen.  > D > I am seeing some tests in cairo failing from what looks like some 1 > rounding issues on floating point calculations.  > K > So far none of these look like OpenVMS specific issues.  A google search  G > is showing that LINUX on x86 does floating point precision different   > than other platforms. D hmm... you seem to get better results then me. Did you do something E special? All png-tests fail on my machine and the X11-tests need the   Xrender-extention      >  > In gettext 0.14.5: > J > The msgexec program is trying to use fork() in a way that will not work K > on OpenVMS, and the msgfilter program is trying to set non-blocking I/O.  E >  I have not looked at converting them to be able to run on OpenVMS.  > K > The full make check step takes about 36 hours on a 466Mhz DS10 with fast   > wide SCSI disks. > H > I am still working on resolving the differences that glib and gettext F > have revealed between gnu libiconv and the iconv + I18N kit that is I > supplied by HP.  Currently I have 14 tests failing out of the 227 test  J > that were run, mostly because of missing character sets.  22 tests were H > not run because the test procedure determined that the character sets % > required for them were not present.  > C >> Also be prepared to install a lot of packages and do some (yet)  J >> undocumented configuration. If you have questions ask them me off line.> You tested it better than I. Probably I never use the gettext % capabilities in any ofv the programs.    >  > K > The gnome prefix has not been registered with HP, so "gnome$" should not  I > be used in logical names, symbols, or filenames.  Use "gnome_" instead.  > H > The use of $ in public program symbols, filenames, logical names, and G > DCL symbols is reserved to HP or the registered owners of facilities. C > See the OpenVMS FAQ for information on how to register a facility  I did not know   >   I > And please who ever may be doing porting and getting your changes back  I > into the main distribution sites, do not name MMS description files or  K > DCL command files makefile.vms.  This breaks building the products under  G > GNV as the GNV gnu make utility will try use makefile.vms instead of   > makefile, and then fail.: The ones I create are normmally descrip.mms so that is OK.   > / >> All help making this port better is welcome.  >  > J > As near as I can tell, there appears to be at least 5 or more different J > people or groups now independently working on porting the components of A > GTK+ 2.x or other required libraries to OpenVMS with almost no   > coordination between them. > J > Discussions of such activity would be on topic for the vmsnet.vms-posix H > newsgroup, and announcements of milestones would be on topic for both  > there and this forum. . Probably we need also some common source base.   >  > -John # > malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  > Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:46:03 +0100 ( From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>' Subject: Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? 3 Message-ID: <441A855B.7020502@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl>    John Malmberg wrote: > JOUKJ wrote: >  >> Klaus-D. Bohn wrote:  >>B >>> Yes, i know. But i found only the old and not a newer version. >>> L >> But it is there see : http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html >> and look for the gtk2+ item.  >  > F > I would not consider Linker warnings to be something that should be H > ignored.  It usually is an indication that something serious is wrong  > with the build procedure. F I know exactly why I get them : It is due to the way I generate in an F aotomatic way option files for shareable images. I first create a map C file with a link command and leave out all libraries I do not want  I included in the "public routines" for the shareable image to be created.  H This gives a lot of linker errors. Than I relink with all libraries and D the created option file to create the correct shareable image. This ' second link is without any link-errors.      > D >> Note that it is realy "alpha" and not finished. I got some tests A >> running correctly but only on screens which ghave the Xrender  D >> Extenstion. So hardly anything works yet on a native VMS display. >  > H > So far I have not found anything that requires the Xrender Extension, I > but I have not yet tried building anything that requires glib 2, since  4 > my build of glib 2.x is not yet somewhat "stable". > A > There are 59 tests in glib 2.8.6, and I do not see any of them   > attempting to do X-11 output.  > K > Of the 59 tests, 4 will not run on OpenVMS 8.2 for the following reasons:  > I > Test child-test fails because it needs a UNIX style fork() and can not  $ > be quickly changed to use vfork(). > I > Test convert-test fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N for it kit  K > supply converters for the CP1255 character set, and I do not know of any  ; > alias names for it that might be present in the I18N kit.  > E > Test file-test fails because it is testing for symbolic links, and  I > unless you are on the 8.3 Eft or using the RMS SYMLINKS SDK, those are   > not there. > F > Test unicode-encoding fails because neither OpenVMS or the I18N kit G > supply converters for the UTF-16 character set.  And again, I do not  9 > know of any aliases for that set that might be present.  > E > I still have 2 tests failing, and 2 tests that are generating some  H > diagnostics that I have not yet fully investigated.  The rest are now  > passing for me. C The problem for me is not glib2, but gkt2 which depends many other  C packages. So you probably made your own port of glib2. Maybe it is  G worthwhile to merge my one and yours and than try to get them into the   "official distro"    >  > In cairo 1.0.2:  > G > Test path-data is checks for the behavior of passing an out of range  C > error status to the error handler and expecting the results of a  D > previous version of cairo, and is not compatible with the current - > version, which exits with an assert() call.  > K > Test ft-font-create-for-ft-face is broken in that it is selecting a face  J > which does not exist and does not check the error, and starts passing a E > truncated structure to other routines.  Eventually this causes bad   > things to happen.  > D > I am seeing some tests in cairo failing from what looks like some 1 > rounding issues on floating point calculations.  > K > So far none of these look like OpenVMS specific issues.  A google search  G > is showing that LINUX on x86 does floating point precision different   > than other platforms. D hmm... you seem to get better results then me. Did you do something E special? All png-tests fail on my machine and the X11-tests need the   Xrender-extention      >  > In gettext 0.14.5: > J > The msgexec program is trying to use fork() in a way that will not work K > on OpenVMS, and the msgfilter program is trying to set non-blocking I/O.  E >  I have not looked at converting them to be able to run on OpenVMS.  > K > The full make check step takes about 36 hours on a 466Mhz DS10 with fast   > wide SCSI disks. > H > I am still working on resolving the differences that glib and gettext F > have revealed between gnu libiconv and the iconv + I18N kit that is I > supplied by HP.  Currently I have 14 tests failing out of the 227 test  J > that were run, mostly because of missing character sets.  22 tests were H > not run because the test procedure determined that the character sets % > required for them were not present.  > C >> Also be prepared to install a lot of packages and do some (yet)  J >> undocumented configuration. If you have questions ask them me off line.> You tested it better than I. Probably I never use the gettext % capabilities in any ofv the programs.    >  > K > The gnome prefix has not been registered with HP, so "gnome$" should not  I > be used in logical names, symbols, or filenames.  Use "gnome_" instead.  > H > The use of $ in public program symbols, filenames, logical names, and G > DCL symbols is reserved to HP or the registered owners of facilities. C > See the OpenVMS FAQ for information on how to register a facility  I did not know   >   I > And please who ever may be doing porting and getting your changes back  I > into the main distribution sites, do not name MMS description files or  K > DCL command files makefile.vms.  This breaks building the products under  G > GNV as the GNV gnu make utility will try use makefile.vms instead of   > makefile, and then fail.: The ones I create are normmally descrip.mms so that is OK.   > / >> All help making this port better is welcome.  >  > J > As near as I can tell, there appears to be at least 5 or more different J > people or groups now independently working on porting the components of A > GTK+ 2.x or other required libraries to OpenVMS with almost no   > coordination between them. > J > Discussions of such activity would be on topic for the vmsnet.vms-posix H > newsgroup, and announcements of milestones would be on topic for both  > there and this forum. . Probably we need also some common source base.   >  > -John # > malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  > Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:43:54 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>8 Subject: Re: Intalation of OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 question+ Message-ID: <47vlnrFhjft9U1@individual.net>    Paco Alguacil wrote:! > Hi to all, Im new in this group  > N > I have a question. I have installed VMS on an AlphaServer DS20 in a  9Gb HD,E > I have made the instalation default, and I added decnet phase V, C, I > fortran, ada and mozilla and I noticed that the disk is almost full. Is E > this normal? I think the OS and utilities must fit in 2Gb. Im doing ) > something wrong (problably)? Any ideas?  >  > $ show device/full dkb100   & >     Total blocks            17773524& >     Free blocks              1362552  F More or less the same here, but I have absolutely boat loads of stuff C installed (everything from the full CD set for which I could see a  D Hobbyist license), assorted products from the Freeware CDs, Apache, I Perl, emails and attachments going back 6 years or more, backups from my   Mac etc etc.  G How much RAM have you, and what size are your page, swap and dumpfiles?    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 18:11:53 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)8 Subject: Re: Intalation of OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 question, Message-ID: <441afbe9$1@news.langstoeger.at>  g In article <dvebsf$mrc$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:  >purge/confirm ?  $ Yup. I even do PURGE (w/o /CONFIRM).  H >beware - you could purge page/dump files that the system's still using.  	 And what? G Then they do not get really deleted (only dir entry is removed) and you F end up with a file "marked for delete" (and also no freespace gained).H But you don't get problems or instabilities. The file is still open/usedK and no other file will be overwritten with contents for this page/swap/dump  file.   H >I'm usually fairly careful to reboot soon after creating new dump/page 5 >files, and to clean up the old ones soon after that.   J This only removes the requirement for an $ ANAL/DISK/REPAIR SYS$SYSDEVICE:G after the reboot just to regain the freespace. But you don't need to be + "fairly careful". You know, it's still VMS.   G Only in 25 year old VMS, you could delete open files or directory files F and get problems. This is already fixed for over 2 decades now. (maybeH the fix for the dumpfile is not that old, but surely over a decade ago).  F >> Check also, that you don't have SET PROCESS/DUMP entered somewhere,E >> or every failing image leaves a process dump file around (but this 0 >> is nowhere default and thus not very likely). > C >Well yes - we use this (and sys$procdmp to control where they go).   / Yes, but don't forget SYS$PROTECTED_PROCDMP ;-)    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:13:57 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 4 Subject: Is VMS Security being dumbed-down for Java?0 Message-ID: <dve95c$85$1@news-02.connect.com.au>   Hi,   L I have been unable to locate anyone who both could and would answer a coupleH of questions for me regarding the image activator's treatment of logicalL names, so in desperation I've begun to toy with the idea of wading through aK copy of the VMS source listings, that someone was kind enough to show me. A L quick glance revealed a developer's comment that I found quite striking, andI I was wondering if anyone here could shed any further light on the issue.   L Now, comments are just that, comments and quite often bear no resemblance toH what the code is actually doing, and you're free to read as little or as@ much into them as you like,  but see what you think anyway. From. SYSIMGACT.LIS  3-Oct-2004 line 1820 onwards: -  I ! the following code seems like a good idea, and maybe would be some day. H ! but, in fact, untrusted names are required for privileged execution of	 Java. . .   G "Damn your logic Spock! the Javans are a peaceful people and mean us no  harm." "Shields-Down Mr Sulu. . ."   I It's a given that not everyone is as easily given to superlative as me so E the horizontal ellipses could be a roll-of-the-eyes, an outpouring of I exacerbation, a cry for help, or simply "I'm not gonna fill up the source L listing with the rest of this fascinating tale". Or non of the above? Anyway FYI.   Regards Richard Maher   L PS. Is it just me or has there been nothing but fruitful, on-topic technical> discussion in COV for over two weeks? Is there nothing sacred?  J PPS. If any one thinks they can answer the following questions then please do: -   G Q1: Without the use of enhanced privileges and with the Main Executable J Image not having being INSTALLed: - Can a call from an inner-mode UWSS outE to any other shareable image (/PROTECTED or otherwise) be spoofed and L redirected to another shareable image? My testing to-date indicates that theH image activator insists on all shareable images being INSTALLed. Is this$ supported and architected behaviour?  L Q2: When a LIB$ routine is called from an EXEC Mode UWSS, why does the imageB activator consider Non-Trusted, Supervisor-Mode Logical Names whenK activating LIBRTL? Furthermore, why does the image activator then appear to K ignore non-trusted logical names when activating other shareable images? Is & there something peculiar about LIBRTL?   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 05:06:51 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk2 Subject: Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It NeedsC Message-ID: <1142600811.702486.321980@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   F I think the path to the error would be a helpful thing to know here asE Hoff has already commented.  If the address is using SMTP, is it smtp 8 that's at fault?  Is some other mail transport involved?C Is the system standalone or clustered?  If clustered, do some nodes B know about the cluster alias and others not (or are there multiple cluster aliases set up?)> Fundamentally, the first question in things like this is "whatE changed"?  If the answer's "nothing", what got restarted?  Restarting % DECnet or TCP/IP is still a change...    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:11:40 +0000 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>2 Subject: Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs4 Message-ID: <dvejjd$lej$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>   Craig Dedo wrote: H > What logical names need to be defined so that the OpenVMS Mail Utility > works properly?  > E > This afternoon our OpenVMS Mail Utility stopped working.  If anyone 0 > tries to send any mail, they get a message of:* > %SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name > E > I tried looking through the OpenVMS technical documentation without H > success.  There is very little information on the technical aspects of9 > configuring the Mail Utility so that it works properly.    $ sho log *mail*  4 (or just mail* - they're the ones relevant to mail).  8 My money would be on a spurious logical MAIL or MAILSHR.  3 If you can't figure it out, post a simple dialogue:  $ mail" mail> send/subj="testing" USERNAME test ^Z mail>   I These are from my (working) system - most of them have little to do with   mail.  (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)      "ACME$MAILBOX" = "_MBA14:"     "ATK$ELF_MAILBOX" = "MBA52:" '    "AUDSRV$CONTROL_MAILBOX" = "_MBA12:" 4    "DECW$MAILSHR_TV" = "DECW$MAILSHR_TV_SUPPORT.EXE"    "ERRFMT$_SEND_MAIL" = "TRUE" %    "GOLDFAX$CLEANUP_SENDMAIL" = "YES" $    "GOLDFAX$MAILSHR_DELIMITER" = "'"4    "GOLDFAX$MAILSHR_DIR" = "GOLD$ROOT:[FAX.V45.AXP]"!    "GOLDFAX$MAILSHR_SWITCH" = "/" @    "GOLDFAX_MAILSHR" = "GOLDFAX$MAILSHR_DIR:GOLDFAX_MAILSHR.EXE"+    "IUPOP3_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS" = "FALSE" &    "IUPOP3_MAIL_RECIPIENTS" = "SYSTEM"$    "IUPOP3_PURGE_MAILBOXES" = "TRUE"%    "IUPOP3_USE_MAIL_FOLDER" = "FALSE" #    "MAIL$INTERNET_TRANSPORT" = "MX" +    "MAIL$PROTOCOL_GFAX" = "GOLDFAX_MAILSHR"     "MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS" = "22"     "MAILSHR_TV" = "MAILSHR" %    "MX_MAILSHR" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHR" '    "MX_MAILSHRP" = "MX_EXE:MX_MAILSHRP" 4    "MX_VMSMAIL_FROM_FORMAT" = "<!AS@ccagroup.co.uk>"     "NETBIOS$MAILBOX" = "MBA113:"I    "PWRK$IPCPWRK_UNPRIVD_MAILSLOT_PIPE" = "_MBA195: _MBA196: 23-OCT-2005   16:28:48.96""    "REGISTRY$MAILBOX" = "_MBA123:"    "SECSRV$MAILBOX" = "_MBA15:"    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:22:35 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 2 Subject: Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs, Message-ID: <441AF05C.849FF72C@teksavvy.com>   etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote:  > H > I think the path to the error would be a helpful thing to know here as > Hoff has already commented.   E Actually, exactly when the error was issued is more important. Is iut H when you start the mail utility ? When you enter the "SEND" command ? IsG it when you enter a destination (TO or CC), in which case, what did you C enter ?  Or is it once you were done typing the message and pressed  <ctrl-Z> to send it ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:00:40 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 2 Subject: Re: Mail Utility - Logical Names It Needs, Message-ID: <441AF946.7EDE51D5@teksavvy.com>   Chris Sharman wrote:: > My money would be on a spurious logical MAIL or MAILSHR.  5 If it is the destination username which is a logical     eg:   : $DEFINE CHOCOLATE "This is a sinfully delicious substance" $MAIL 
 MAIL> SEND
 TO: CHOCOLATE   A Then it would issue a "no such user" message for each word in the E logical name translation. (Didn't know you could use logicals to have 7 distribution lists with each name separated by a space)    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:11:06 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?8 Message-ID: <r2gl125tuiq1piclrgq82jtgllfpna2adv@4ax.com>  0 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:29:50 -0600, Carl Karcher, <karcher.nomorespam@waisman.wisc.edu> wrote:   >d_gillbilly@hotmail.com wrote:  >...A >>    These header updates do correspond to files with suppressed K >> PATHWORKS ACE's. If AS wants to set an ACE, I get a header update on the I >> file. I can understand this. But why only selected files. And how do I J >> get this behavious to stop. I have entire shares without any suppressedI >> ACE's, and other shares that I can't seem to make the suppressed ACE's J >> go away. Also, if I rename the file, it MAY stop fiddling with the ACE.I >> I'm still at the consistantly inconsistant stage looking for THE clue.  > B >Have a look at the STORE_SECURITY_ACES parameter setting (in the  >"registry"). See: > C >http://h71000.www7.hp.com/DOC/73final/6556/6556pro_010.html#fixace  >  >--    Well, well, well...   1 A quick review of this document has me smiling...   ? It seems to say a lot of things that I was hoping to hear/read.   F I won't be able to dig into this today as one of my banking interfacesG is acting up. It has detected duplicate bank trace numbers and the bank  is in denial. Sigh.   F This is where I will start when I revist this annoyance. I was gettingH bogged down in trying to understand SMB protocol exchanges. I was hoping I could skip this step.   H Once again I am highly optimistic. I prefer to find solutions that I canE implement on VMS. (Un?)Fortunately there is a LOT of documentation to D absorb and distill and apply. Sometimes (most times?) I fall behind.   Carl, thank you very much!      Just trying to keep up,
      Duane   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:18:06 GMT & From: "PEN" <paul.nunez.nosp@m.hp.com>H Subject: Re: Mysterious revision date changes caused by Advanced Server?2 Message-ID: <ibCSf.4858$%a7.4509@news.cpqcorp.net>  
 Hi Duanne,  + <d_gillbilly@hotmail.com> wrote in message  2 news:r2gl125tuiq1piclrgq82jtgllfpna2adv@4ax.com...2 > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:29:50 -0600, Carl Karcher. > <karcher.nomorespam@waisman.wisc.edu> wrote: [snip]B >>Have a look at the STORE_SECURITY_ACES parameter setting (in the >>"registry"). See:  >>D >>http://h71000.www7.hp.com/DOC/73final/6556/6556pro_010.html#fixace >> >>--   >  > Well, well, well...  > 3 > A quick review of this document has me smiling...  > A > It seems to say a lot of things that I was hoping to hear/read.  > H > I won't be able to dig into this today as one of my banking interfacesI > is acting up. It has detected duplicate bank trace numbers and the bank  > is in denial. Sigh.  > H > This is where I will start when I revist this annoyance. I was gettingJ > bogged down in trying to understand SMB protocol exchanges. I was hoping > I could skip this step.  > J > Once again I am highly optimistic. I prefer to find solutions that I canG > implement on VMS. (Un?)Fortunately there is a LOT of documentation to F > absorb and distill and apply. Sometimes (most times?) I fall behind. >  > Carl, thank you very much! >  >   Just trying to keep up,  >     Duane   6 PATHWORKS v6 and Advanced Server use 2 different ACEs:  L DOS ACE - Stores DOS file attributes and file size; this ACE is applied and G _updated_ whenever AS reads/creates a file and begins "(UNKNOWN=%X80".  < There will (should always) be only one such ACE on any file.  L Security ACE - Contains permissions assigned to files/folders.  This ACE is F applied when permissions are explicitly defined for a file/folder and K begines "(UNKNOWN=%X86".  There may be multiple %X86 ACEs on a file/folder  M (if the list of permissions becomes quite long, this can lead to creation of  J extension (aka secondary) file headers to store the multitude of Security D ACEs).  Once applied, they don't change unless a user/administrator   explicitly modifies permissions.  L I don't think disabling storing of security aces is going to help.  I still K think the %x80 DOS ACE is getting applied/updated by some MS application -  J either Explorer or, as someone else noted, MS Office apps.  In fact I was G reviewing a network trace of a client opening a .DOC file stored on an  I Advanced Server share (by double-clicking on it).  The first part of the  K trace shows the client going through the entire directory tree opening and  H reading the start of every *.exe and *.htm file (which would qualify as  "Known file types").  J There is currently no way to disable the application or update of the DOS  ACE...     Paul     ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 10:05:59 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> C Subject: Scholarships to the OpenVMS Advanced Technical Boot Camp - C Message-ID: <1142618758.884071.191420@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>    Dear Folks,   ? I wanted to let you know about the availability of two types of E scholarships available to end user customers.  These scholarships are B for tuition only, travel and expenses are still up to the student.F Please do not over think these, we want to make this fun and the leastD amount of work for everyone.  Boot Camp registration is currently atE 50% but we wanted to give an additional opportunity to folks that may " not normally attend the boot camp.  G 1. Scholarships (3) one per company (end user Customer) willing to do a E public testimonial regarding the use of OpenVMS on Integrity servers. / Details will be provided if you are interested.   G 2. Scholarship for VMS people under 30 years of age. (Two Scholarships) C This has to be a nomination from the persons manager the winners of ? this scholarship will be determined by the OpenVMS SIG (Special D Interest Group).  The manager needs to write a few paragraphs on whyC they think the person would benefit from being at the boot camp and 7 with the VMS community.  Submissions need to be sent to . Susan.Skonetski@hp.com no later than April 15.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 07:06:35 -0800 From: schortingh_j@mercer.edu 3 Subject: Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS C Message-ID: <1142607995.626000.216780@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   9 I am adding some additonal messages that were sent to me:    Jim,  E I work for the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod supporting a consortium C of ten universities and seminaries running SCT's Banner on DS20 and  DS25A Alphaservers under VMS 7.3-2.  About 6 years ago we migrated each  campus= from various legacy systems to Banner.  Each site has its own  Alphaserver G for Oracle Enterprise Edition as well as Oracle iAS servers on Windows. ? In my opinion, Oracle RDBMS on VMS has been a very, very stable  platform for running Banner.   B But a better spot to ask this question would be at the Listserv atA BOPENVMS@SUNGARDSCT.COM which is a forum of OpenVMS sites running D Banner.  I believe that there are about 150-200 campus sites runningE VMS for their Oracle/Banner servers.  Another good reference would be G Kathleen O'Donnell, SungardSCT (kodonnel@sungardsct.com) who supervises   new Banner installations on VMS.  & Let me know if you have any questions, -Rich C -- Richard A. Helmke Internet: Rich.Helmke@cais.cus.edu Assoc Prof, C Computer Science Helmke@curf.edu System Manager, Technical Services E Voice: 708-209-3221 Concordia Administrative Information Systems Fax: B 708-209-3177 River Forest, IL 60305-1499 Bugs come in through open Windows.             schortingh_j@mercer.edu wrote:C > We are currently running SCT Plus suite on OpenVMS Alpha and I am E > interested in hearing from anyone running the SCT Banner product on I > OpenVMS.   Area's of interest would be migration,  possile list serv of ; > universities running Banner on OpenVMS, how well it runs.  > 	 > Thanks.  >  > Jim Schortinghouse > VMS Systems Manager  > Mercer University  > schortingh_j@Mercer.edu    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 18:38:31 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS , Message-ID: <441b0227$1@news.langstoeger.at>  c In article <1142607995.626000.216780@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>, schortingh_j@mercer.edu writes: C >But a better spot to ask this question would be at the Listserv at B >BOPENVMS@SUNGARDSCT.COM which is a forum of OpenVMS sites runningE >Banner.  I believe that there are about 150-200 campus sites running F >VMS for their Oracle/Banner servers.  Another good reference would beH >Kathleen O'Donnell, SungardSCT (kodonnel@sungardsct.com) who supervises! >new Banner installations on VMS.  > ' >Let me know if you have any questions,    Only one question:E Where is VMS or OpenVMS mentioned at the http://www.sungardsct.com or / http://sct.com or http://www.sungard.com sites?    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 10:09:16 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> 2 Subject: Smart Array Adapters for VMS on IntegrityC Message-ID: <1142618956.853377.209130@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>    Dear Newsgroup,   D I sent the following out to my email distribution lists this morningD with the  PDF installation guide.  If you need a copy please send meD email at my hp address which is my first name dot last name @ symbol hp.com  
 Warm Regards,  Sue     0 Dear Distribution Lists (Internal and External),  . Please note the following from Andy Schneider.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ______________  D We are pleased to announce that the Smart Array adapters (A9890A andC A9891A) are now supported on OpenVMS V8.2-1 with Integrity servers.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:31:15 GMT , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>> Subject: Re: USB Options on OpenVMS (was Re: Mtools for VMS(?)2 Message-ID: <78ESf.4876$Ze7.4159@news.cpqcorp.net>   Ian Miller wrote: G > On a tangentially related subject - If I wanted a PCI-USB card for my G > Digital PWS then I think I have to find one with a specific chipset - G > does anyone know what the chipset is or some names of PCI-USB cards I  > should be looking out for? > H > Presently I am running VMS  V7.3-2 and could use the USB software that > appeared on the freeware.   F    The ADS Technology Turbo Quad 4 was one PCI USB module that's been E mentioned before as having the potential to operate with OpenVMS, or  F various cards with the Lucent/Agere USS344 chipset, or PCI cards with F the Symbios 6080 chipset; these are all in the OHCI family of USB 1.1 I interfaces, IIRC.  (With these search keys, you might find other options   mentioned.)   G    I don't know if you'll get a UHCI interface or a USB 2.0 controller  E to work.  That's another discussion, and one best fielded by Forrest.   @    I will mention that none of these PCI modules are officially < supported by OpenVMS, just for correctness and completeness.  H    As for supported options, there are Alpha systems with supported USB I interfaces, though those boxes might be somewhat out of your price range  E right now.  Integrity servers have supported USB interfaces, as well.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:10:49 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>& Subject: Re: VXT 2000+ monitor options+ Message-ID: <47vjpqFhe3k6U1@individual.net>    Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > F >   The biggest problem I've seen is that the older controllers can't K > necessarily generate solid 60 Hz signals, and the LCDs can require that.  J >  (I encountered "quivering" displays from PBXGB-AA/CA series PowerStorm K > 3D30 and 4D20 series controllers set to 60 Hz and compatible resolution,  D > and ended up replacing these with Radeon 7xxx series controllers.) >   H On the subject of LCD setup, I had difficulty getting CDE & Elsa Gloria F card to work with my (Sony) LCD at the resolution I wanted. Selecting H the wrong combination of frequency and resolution sent the monitor into G safety switch off mode to protect itself, and I had no means of seeing  4 what was being displayed in order to close CDE down.  I Be sure that you can login from elsewhere to edit the appropriate DECW$*  ? files and restart DECwindows whilst going through this process.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 05:17:17 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk& Subject: Re: VXT 2000+ monitor optionsB Message-ID: <1142601437.416074.86920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  C Are these VXT2000s or VXT2000+ ?  The title says VXT2000+ while the  content talks of VXT2000.   E The various sizes of PCXAV indicate that they are SVGA monitors but I G was always under the impression that the VXT2000 would only take an RGB E with sync on green monitor (and my DEC catalogues are at home and I'm  not...)    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Mar 2006 10:04:47 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> * Subject: Week of March 13 Boot Camp UpdateB Message-ID: <1142618687.436317.76580@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com>   Dear Folks,   ? Here is this weeks OpenVMS Advanced technical Boot Camp Update.   @ In case you are wondering this is excellent registration numbers/ considering how far away from the event we are.      Registration Goal 200  Seats Committed 102 
 % full 51% Seats available 98
 Registered 92  % of new attendees 37% % of repeat attendees 63%  Weeks until Boot Camp 9  Folks from outside the US 37 Countries represented 12    . http://h71000.www7.hp.com/symposium/index.html   Warm Regards as always,    Sue    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:46:48 GMT 0 From: "Barry Kierstein" <Barry.Kierstein@HP.Com>$ Subject: Re: [AVAILMAN] JAVA setup ?2 Message-ID: <sBfRf.4573$Ev4.3984@news.cpqcorp.net>  L The $ AVAIL/AVAIL command invokes the Java setup procedure for the JRE that H installs with the AM kit, then starts AM.  That is why you see the JAVA I symbol.  I've got a note to see about cleaning up after one exits the AM   application.   Barry    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.152 ************************