1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 19 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 155       Contents: Re: boot problem - device full Re: boot problem - device full Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS - Re: Smart Array Adapters for VMS on Integrity  Re: VMS Updates   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:56:01 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>' Subject: Re: boot problem - device full + Message-ID: <441CBA31.7729509A@comcast.net>    William Webb wrote:  > 0 > On 3/18/06, Emil <emilg2SP@amgazeta.pl> wrote: > > Hi all, K > > I have a big (for me :) I'm a newbe in OpenVMS) problem and hope it can  > > be solved with your help. L > > I have Digital Alphastation 255 233MHz with OpenVMS 6.2. Problem is that3 > > it won't boot. Here is what I get when booting:  > > = > > RMS-F-FUL device full (insufficient space for allocation)  > > " > > Message form user QUEUE_MANAGEN > > QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to continue > > 4 > > QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 204 blocks on disk DKA0 > > : > > Could someone please tell me how to free these blocks? > >  > > regards 
 > > Wojtek > >  > + > Your default boot device (DKA0:) is full.  > % > 1.  Boot from an OpenVMS binary CD, 2 > 2.  Take the menu option to execute DCL commands > 3.  Mount DKA0: C > 4.  On DKA0:,  free up space by doing such things as purging file C > versions, creating new versions of log files and deleting the old 4 > ones-- whatever is appropriate for your situation.  > Also, if you find a SYSDUMP.DMP file in the DKA0:[SYSx.SYSEXE]D directory, you can delete that and gain back enough space to boot upH from DKA0 and finish cleaning up. (x = your system's boot root, probably 0).   F It would help to know what your DKA0 is (SHOW DEVICE/FULL while bootedB from the CD or after you get it cleaned up to where you can boot).  H I'm also curious as to why a QMAN error at boot would prevent the systemE from booting up to where you could get logged into it, unless this is F causing the STARTUP process to abort before a SET LOGINS/INTERACTIVE=nF is done at least once by (something called by )SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  & Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page! http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/   ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/   ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:54:51 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ' Subject: Re: boot problem - device full , Message-ID: <441CC7DB.4C991D6D@teksavvy.com>  E Like others have explained, boot with SYSTARTUP_P1 = "MIN". This will D give you  a minimally booted VMS systems without bells and whistles.  , Log files can really fill up a system, disk.   once booted, you can login and       ANA/DISK/REPAIR disk:   H This may free up lots of blocks in case certain files (notably page/swapH files, deleting files that are installed etc. Those files are marked forH delete but cannot be deleted at tha time because they are still in use).H It will tell you which files were marked for delete and recover the disk space from those deleted files.    Then:    PURGE/LOG disk:[000000...]*.*   F This will free up a lot of space. Also, if you had previously adjusted3 the size of your page/swap files, the old versions       If this still doesn't cut it:   @ DIR disk:[000000...]*.*;* /SELECT=SIZE=MIN=10000/NOHEAD/SIZE=ALL  J This will give you a listing of all files above 10000 blocks on your disk.G /NOHEAD gives one complete file specification per line, and this allows D DIR to output te file name right away (instead of waiting for enough8 files to have been found to build columns of filenames).  I /SIZE=ALL is reall size = allocated. This gives you the allocated blocks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:59:29 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS1 Message-ID: <dviku9$c3q$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Ian (stirrer :-) Miller,   / > the high signal to noise ratio makes it worth ' > putting up with the occational glich.    One may find the, equally high, H sanctimonious-self-serving-narcissistic-wanker to common-IT-wanker ratio conversely off-putting.   J Regardless of whatever hats they profess to wear, I can assure you that inK ITRC when the HP good ol' boy (ex)employees come a-knockin' on your door in I the middle of the night, they're all wearing pointy white ones with holes L cut out for the eyes. Anyway, it was my fault for gettin' a bit uppity and I7 still got the one good eye and I had 'nuff kids anyhow.   K "We don't care about your damn facts boy! Don't you dare eyeball one of the H I.T.R.C. lessen ya know what's good for ya. We got all the facts we need right here".  - Regards Richard (Toby, NO! Kunta Kinte) Maher   G PS. If the humour doesn't travel well to the States then tough shit! IT I SHOULDN'T!!! This is exactly how I've been treated as a VMS customer (and I long time advocate) and DSPP member. Can you please send an adult over to H that Lord of the Flies remake island of ITRC and smash that conch over a couple of kid's heads?  + "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message < news:1141745399.255130.25390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...G > Yes those forums are irritatingly flaky at times but for me they work D > most of the time and the high signal to noise ratio makes it worth' > putting up with the occational glich.  > E > The points thing does get out of hand at times - just don't take it  > seriously. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:04 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS1 Message-ID: <dvinlk$fpg$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Mark,  H > I've also experienced a propensity to spontaneous and unexplained loss > of postings!  I They don't have to justify themselves and their actions to you Mark. Just L who the hell do you think you are? If the editorial policy of the ITRC MafiaG makes Stalinist Russia, China and Zimbabwe look like they've got a free ! press, then that's just bad luck.   I There's only a small neat pile of ashes where my posts used to be and I'm J sure it's for the best. There is no way that an outsider could come in andE try to understand the inner workings of the delicate and finely-tuned G machine that is HP's Abu Ghraib for VMS customers and DSPP members. Yes D indeed! Not since Lindy England snapped on the rubber gloves have weI witnessed such Esprit de Corp among HP (ex)employees. With fine young men < like that it's hard to understand how VMS is losing the war!  L So whose turn is it to roger me anyway? I've been smacked around the head soI much lately I've lost track of what day it is. Now if it's John Gillings' L day again then apparently he needs at least Hein and Guy to hold me down andL there looks to be plenty out there that just like-to-watch so maybe I shouldK just save my pleas of innocence until some objective independant body turns K up. Reminds me of the Chief complaining in Get Smart when KAOS had them all I Control agents in a cencentration camp and Siegfried says "Tell it to the  marines baldy!"    Regards Richard Maher   I PS. Hoff "in 'Javert' guise" has also, according to a VMSNOTES posting of J some years ago (a copy of which I have filed away somewhere) accumulated aI list of my past crimes in forums such as this. Could be useful for future  attacks on my credibility.  7 "Mark Daniel" <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au> wrote in message * news:12111hbtm4uogf6@corp.supernews.com... > John Reagan wrote: > > Beach Runner wrote:  > >  > >>J > >> What is really good about it is you can ask about 3rd party products,C > >> as well as VMS questions. People like Hoffman and Hopkins (the  > >> developer of 7 > >> XFC do participate) and many knowledgeable people.  > >> > >  > > K > > Well, personally, I tend to not visit ITRC, but come here several times H > > a day.  I find the ITRC layout annoying plus I keep having to get my > F > I agree.  Looks like something slapped together in the mid-nineties.F > And typing anything more significant than a couple of sentences into' > that pigeon-hole is most frustrating.  > H > I've also experienced a propensity to spontaneous and unexplained loss > of postings! > L > > password reset for some bizarre reason.  After a while, I take the hint.J > > I've even reregistered hoping for more stable behavior.  No such luck.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:37:10 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS, Message-ID: <441CEDDB.EB27B1A9@teksavvy.com>   Richard Maher wrote:K > There's only a small neat pile of ashes where my posts used to be and I'm L > sure it's for the best. There is no way that an outsider could come in andG > try to understand the inner workings of the delicate and finely-tuned F > machine that is HP's Abu Ghraib for VMS customers and DSPP members.   E While HP goes through great lengths to avoid PR and marketing of VMS, H the rest of the corporation is extremely PR and marketing savvy. ITRC isB part of  a customer facing public web site infrastructure and as aF result, it is also part of HP's PR and contributes towards HP's image.  D As a result, HP will do whatever it takes to ensure that it does notF contain anything which would not fit within the image HP wants its web site infrastructure to have.    E ITRC are not public forums. They are private property. If you enter a E store and start saying stuff that the shopowner doesn't like , he has  the right to ask you to leave.  E Where HP is perhaps lacking is in advising a poster of the removal of ( one of his posts and why it was removed.  F That is why there are newsgroups and user groups which operate outsideE the boundaries of the corporation, and thus without PR restrictons of $ forums operated on private property.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Mar 2006 14:05:55 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: Smart Array Adapters for VMS on IntegrityC Message-ID: <1142719555.729316.319180@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   E Thank you Ian, however the ITRC folks decided to remove my posting so . folks have to use the one on the VMS web page.   Sue    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:23:01 GMT  From: Jim Duff <jim@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: VMS UpdatesD Message-ID: <Vn2Tf.6541$bn3.4671@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  >[snip]  > D >   If you want to see XML or other such enhancements within the ECOF > process, you'll want to formally request it via the customer supportJ > center, ambassador or official contacts -- if you're expecting to attendH > the bootcamp, we can certainly discuss this, and you can also directlyH > discuss this or other enhancement requests with the OpenVMS management > team.  > I >   If you have specific feedback on this matter (and you're not planning J > on the bootcamp), you can send it along to me, and I'll forward it on to; > the appropriate folks within the OpenVMS management team.  >     G Unfortunately I won't be at the bootcamp. Therefore, I've had a stab at H marking up (an edited) VMS732_SYS_V0900.TXT and have constructed a RELAXG NG grammar to validate it (which I'm sure is full of errors as it's the  first one I've ever written).    You can see the results at:   4 http://www.eight-cubed.com/blog/archives/000328.html   Jim.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.155 ************************