1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 20 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 158       Contents:D Re: Attunity Press Release - Products Available on OpenVMS Integrity DS15 in HP E series cabinet ?  Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ?3 Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously? 7 Re: Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously? 7 Re: Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously?  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS  Oracle Rdb Forums for 2006, OT:HUMOR VMS Small Business Server wish list0 Re: OT:HUMOR VMS Small Business Server wish list* Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS$ simh on linux  bigger than 2gig disk  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:07:36 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>M Subject: Re: Attunity Press Release - Products Available on OpenVMS Integrity ? Message-ID: <crATf.239163$YJ4.234382@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    Ian Miller wrote:   F > AIS is an interesting product. I also found "Due to increased market > demand" interesting as well.  I With the brick wall of last Alpha sales fast approaching, it would be an  G absolute disaster for VMS if an "increased market demand" wasn't being  ' seen by now for VMS products on Itanium    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:15:35 +0200 - From: "Kari Keronen" <kari.keronen@digita.fi> & Subject: DS15 in HP E series cabinet ?7 Message-ID: <uawTf.1297$CQ.592@reader1.news.jippii.net>   K Is it possible to rack DS15 in HP Rack System E41 cabinet ? If yes, what is  the needed rack mount kit ?    -Kari-   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:57:19 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec> ' Subject: Re: GLIB and GTK for OpenVMS ? 2 Message-ID: <32CTf.4969$Zz2.4879@news.cpqcorp.net>   JOUKJ wrote: > John Malmberg wrote: >  >> JOUKJ wrote:  >> >>G >> I would not consider Linker warnings to be something that should be  I >> ignored.  It usually is an indication that something serious is wrong   >> with the build procedure. > H > I know exactly why I get them : It is due to the way I generate in an H > aotomatic way option files for shareable images. I first create a map E > file with a link command and leave out all libraries I do not want  K > included in the "public routines" for the shareable image to be created.  J > This gives a lot of linker errors. Than I relink with all libraries and F > the created option file to create the correct shareable image. This ) > second link is without any link-errors.   H I use the header files as a guideline for generating the list of public D routines for the transfer vectors.  Most of the packages which will @ build on Microsoft Windows will have all of the public routines E documented with a tag.  While that tag can be activated by a #define  B statement and used to generate pre-processor output that could be I automatically parsed, I use a manual process so that I can have upwardly   compatible shared images.   H I am creating the transfer vectors in exact case, and adding upper case @ aliases to them, and for the symbols longer than 31 characters, E supporting both truncated symbol aliass and both CRC shortened names.   E TO DO: For the libraries that export data variables, convert them to  G export a function that returns a pointer to that variable.  That way a  A change in size to that variable does not require breaking upward   compatibility.  C If you want to convince the primary maintainers of the open source  B projects of why they should not export data variables but use the F functions instead, it may also be needed for Microsoft DLLs which use ; both call by ordinal and call by name to access a function.   E > The problem for me is not glib2, but gkt2 which depends many other  E > packages. So you probably made your own port of glib2. Maybe it is  I > worthwhile to merge my one and yours and than try to get them into the   > "official distro"   I Right now, I am finding that as I build the outer layers, that I have to  H adjust my fixes for the inner layers, so I am a bit away from something E that I can release as a complete solution.  But it would make things  @ easier to get the changes back into the "official" distribution.  L I am also only concentrating on ALPHA/I64 on the current version of OpenVMS.  F > hmm... you seem to get better results then me. Did you do something G > special? All png-tests fail on my machine and the X11-tests need the   > Xrender-extention   D Open Source projects supporting LINUX tend to require the following $ compiler options for floating point:  0 $cfloat = "/float=ieee/ieee_mode=denorm_results"  ? With out the denorm_results, you may get program failures from  4 exceptions thrown by some floating point operations.  H Unless the program has been specifically written to return OpenVMS exit C codes the following must be done, or programs and tests will return G incorrect codes for DCL or GNV Bash/Make and other programs ported from  UNIX.   @    With C/CXX 7.x, the qualifier /MAIN=POSIX_EXIT should be usedC    along with /DEFINE=(_POSIX_EXIT=1).  With earlier compilers, you A    need to make sure that the main() function always calls exit() A    and does not use return.  The easiest way to do that is to put 6    a wrapper function around the older main() routine.  5 CXX programs tend to need /DEFINE=__USE_STD_IOSTREAM.   H For OpenVMS ALPHA/I64 8.2 and later, I use /DEFINE=_USE_STD_STAT to get G the stat() that returns real ino_t and dev_t values.  Otherwise I would B use _LARGEFILE for those versions of OpenVMS CRTL that support it.  @ > You tested it better than I. Probably I never use the gettext ' > capabilities in any ofv the programs.   C So far I have only exercised it in the gettext and glib self tests.   0 > Probably we need also some common source base.   That would be a start.  B Part of what is needed is for more people to establish a credible G presence on the mailing lists for each of the open source mailing list  @ or forum and to help maintain "build farms" on OpenVMS for them.   -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 07:55:37 -0800( From: "WangQiang" <WangQiangg@gmail.com>< Subject: Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously?C Message-ID: <1142870137.784163.261670@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   F I'm also a programmer, as working in front of computer day and day, myE right hand is so tired and get some pain. So I tried to mouse in both E hands. I find that it is really an efficient way to release pains. At C first I switched the mouse buttons in windows control panel, but it F taken me several steps to finish it, and I can't flip the cursor, so IF made a utility. With it I can switch mouse buttons and flip the cursorG immediately by pressing a hotkey. I gave it a name: "Ambidexter Mouse", 3 do you want to have a try: www.ambidexter-mouse.com   C (Some people asked me, "Why does it take an executable of 1.3 MByte D to draw two buttons and make one system call? I will say, I used theE SoftwarePassport www.siliconrealms.com to add a shell for my product)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:48:53 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>@ Subject: Re: Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously?+ Message-ID: <488885FijkrgU1@individual.net>    WangQiang wrote:H > I'm also a programmer, as working in front of computer day and day, myG > right hand is so tired and get some pain. So I tried to mouse in both G > hands. I find that it is really an efficient way to release pains. At E > first I switched the mouse buttons in windows control panel, but it H > taken me several steps to finish it, and I can't flip the cursor, so IH > made a utility. With it I can switch mouse buttons and flip the cursorI > immediately by pressing a hotkey. I gave it a name: "Ambidexter Mouse", 5 > do you want to have a try: www.ambidexter-mouse.com  > E > (Some people asked me, "Why does it take an executable of 1.3 MByte F > to draw two buttons and make one system call? I will say, I used theG > SoftwarePassport www.siliconrealms.com to add a shell for my product)  >    Go away, spammer.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:47:19 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> @ Subject: Re: Have you ever considered of mousing ambidextrously?( Message-ID: <ops6p6g5cgzgicya@hyrrokkin>  F On 20 Mar 2006 07:55:37 -0800, WangQiang <WangQiangg@gmail.com> wrote:  H > I'm also a programmer, as working in front of computer day and day, myG > right hand is so tired and get some pain. So I tried to mouse in both G > hands. I find that it is really an efficient way to release pains. At E > first I switched the mouse buttons in windows control panel, but it H > taken me several steps to finish it, and I can't flip the cursor, so IH > made a utility. With it I can switch mouse buttons and flip the cursorI > immediately by pressing a hotkey. I gave it a name: "Ambidexter Mouse", 5 > do you want to have a try: www.ambidexter-mouse.com  > E > (Some people asked me, "Why does it take an executable of 1.3 MByte F > to draw two buttons and make one system call? I will say, I used theG > SoftwarePassport www.siliconrealms.com to add a shell for my product)  > I Very likely that mouse has the dna of a horse, specifically a Trojan one.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:04 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS1 Message-ID: <dvlujv$9d0$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi  I > Dunno what was going on on ITRC, but if you were acting a fool like you H > are doing here, I can thoroughly understand why your posts got erased.  J Marc, if you continue to display all the traits of the Pompous Arse whilstK outside of COV, I can thoroughly understand why your stammtisch has but one  chair.  C Anyway thanks for taking the time to enrich all our lives with your L insightful comment, but there are far more interesting people already liningL up to have their wicked way with me. So, if you wouldn't mind awfully, couldJ you please take your beach towel and David Hasselhoff biography and put itI down somewhere that is vacant. (Great swathes of The Algarve and Northern  Italy are proving popular.)    Thanks ever so much.   Regards Richard Maher   8 "Marc Schlensog" <fishtank.spam@web.de> wrote in message4 news:20060319092737.4787df46.fishtank.spam@web.de...$ > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:04 +08006 > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote: >  > > Hi Mark,	 > > [...] E > > There's only a small neat pile of ashes where my posts used to be 	 > > [...]  > I > Dunno what was going on on ITRC, but if you were acting a fool like you H > are doing here, I can thoroughly understand why your posts got erased. >  > Marc   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:55:31 +0000 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> $ Subject: Re: HP's ITRC forum for VMS* Message-ID: <441E8A23.7080906@bigpond.com>  # Richard Maher was overheard to say:  > Hi >  > I >>Dunno what was going on on ITRC, but if you were acting a fool like you H >>are doing here, I can thoroughly understand why your posts got erased. >  > L > Marc, if you continue to display all the traits of the Pompous Arse whilstM > outside of COV, I can thoroughly understand why your stammtisch has but one  > chair. > E > Anyway thanks for taking the time to enrich all our lives with your N > insightful comment, but there are far more interesting people already liningN > up to have their wicked way with me. So, if you wouldn't mind awfully, couldL > you please take your beach towel and David Hasselhoff biography and put itK > down somewhere that is vacant. (Great swathes of The Algarve and Northern  > Italy are proving popular.)  >  > Thanks ever so much. >  > Regards Richard Maher  > : > "Marc Schlensog" <fishtank.spam@web.de> wrote in message6 > news:20060319092737.4787df46.fishtank.spam@web.de... > $ >>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:04 +08006 >>"Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi Mark,  >>>[...]D >>>There's only a small neat pile of ashes where my posts used to be >>>[...] >>I >>Dunno what was going on on ITRC, but if you were acting a fool like you H >>are doing here, I can thoroughly understand why your posts got erased. >> >>Marc  * .. like a rabid terrier ... Grrrrrr!   :-)   Regards, Dave.  --  D David B Sneddon (dbs)  VMS Systems Programmer  dbsneddon@bigpond.comD Sneddo's quick guide ...     http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/D DBS freeware     http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 08:58:39 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> # Subject: Oracle Rdb Forums for 2006 C Message-ID: <1142873919.221118.308740@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Dear Newsgroup,   E I just received the following announcment.  The Oracle Rdb Forums are B an excellent way to get updated information and I encourage you to attend if at all possible.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue   . ----------------------------------------------  F The Oracle Rdb Engineering team is pleased to announce the 2006 seriesB of Rdb Technical Forums. These Forums are offered at no charge and@ present a series of sessions conducted by acknowledged technicalD specialists from Rdb Engineering and the Rdb community at large. TheB Rdb Technical Forums should be considered a requirement for anyoneA wishing to remain up-to-date with all the latest enhancements and E optimizations in Oracle Rdb. Special focus will be given this year to H recently released Rdb 7.2 for Itanium=AE architecture-based HP Integrity servers.  2 The location and dates for this year's Forums are:   Japan   April 3-4 Tokyo  April 5-6 Osaka   Europe  May 11-12 Turin, Italy   May 15-16 Stockholm, Sweden@  May 18-19 Duesseldorf, Germany In conjunction with DECUS Munich  
 United States   September 12-13Nashua, NH   October 19-20Redwood Shores, CAE   Note: Oracle OpenWorld is being held in San Francisco October 22-26   	 Australia   September 18-19Sydney    The topics covered will include:" Rdb Product Direction and Roadmaps OpenVMS Product Update> Rdb 7.2 for Itanium=AE Architecture-Based HP Integrity Servers Rdb Performance on Integrity= Rdb Performance Using VMS Memory Management Advanced Features ? Lock Partitioning Performance Impacts in Cluster Configurations , Rdb External Functions: Advanced Programming JCC LogMiner Loader Update Rdb Native JDBC Driver Update ) Connecting to Rdb from a .NET Environment  Rdb Futures  And More... C Additional Forum topics and a detailed agenda will be posted on the  Forum registration web page.? The Rdb Technical Forums in Japan are being hosted by HP Japan. F Registration and location/hotel information for the Japanese Forums is available at :C http://h50146.www5.hp.com/events/seminars/info/0604/0403_06rdb.html F In Europe there will be 2 Rdb training events held in conjunction withD the Forums. The first will be offered by JCC Consulting prior to the> Forum in Turin, Italy. The second will be offered by VXCompanyB following the Forum in Stockholm, Sweden. Full descriptions of the@ Turin and Stockholm training events are now available at the JCC@ Consulting and VXCompany web sites. Information on Forum relatedG training events for the US and Australia will be announced later in the  year. F Recommended hotel information will be posted shortly on the respective( registration pages for each Forum event.8 We look forward to seeing you at one of the 2006 Forums! =20   =20
 Best regards,  Kevin Duffy  Director of Development 
 Oracle Rdb   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:55:40 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com 5 Subject: OT:HUMOR VMS Small Business Server wish list 8 Message-ID: <q9gt121ct4usre7ptf59r3ealjg92gtojf@4ax.com>   Hello again fellow VMS'ers,   < I apologize for incorrectly labeling my last boredom moment  "Advance Server wish list".  It is obviously OT:HUMOR. ( Please do not take what I say seriously!  ) OT:HUMOR Small Business Server wish list:    Reliable backup server. H Small business 9 to 5 environments can be very demanding. Data loss in aH small business environment can be very damaging to the business. An easyG way to protect and recover this data would be a fundamental requirement  to any Small Business Server.    A reliable web server.  H The backup operator only knows how to read the backup logs using a point
 a click tool. ? Minimally it needs to be read only from the outside, but easily E modifiable from the inside. It would be a bonus if the server allowed H additional secure web capabilities. Another bonus would be a developmentE environment that interfaces with any or some of the popular web based F tools. It also needs to be able to give the wannabe geeks someplace to play.    A reliable pc server. F In today's random environment, a neutral, third party PC product wouldH be nice. Used in conjunction with the backup server, it could be used toD provide a basic Small Business protection service. Controls that canG only be used from the inside would be a bonus. Interfacing with the web F server could also be useful. It should in no way restrict the existingG PC infrastructure, but the ability to monitor it would be nice. It also = needs to be able to give the wannabe geeks someplace to play.   6 Sorry if it sounds like I'm starting to repeat myself.   A reliable ip server...    A reliable security server...    Reliable diagnostic tools...  $ Reliable development environments...   Reliable...    ...   6 It would also be a bonus, if one file could appear as: a web file, 
 a pc file, an ip(?) file, a VMS file,  etc.   etc, etc, etc...  B More importantly, I would need a single small server to be able toF reliably do all of these things, using fully supported vendor supplied components.   8 This would create an environment that excludes very few.F We could call a product that worked well in other peoples environments
 "DIGITAL".  G If I had the ability to do all of this today, do you think I could sell 
 it to anyone?   3    I though I had an answer, what was the question?            Duane    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 07:39:08 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk9 Subject: Re: OT:HUMOR VMS Small Business Server wish list C Message-ID: <1142869148.318489.160360@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   8 Is this like...  "Digital Used to have it, now...?"  :o)   Steve    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 06:48:43 -0800' From: "Rich" <rich.helmke@cais.cus.edu> 3 Subject: Re: SCT Banner software running on OpenVMS B Message-ID: <1142866123.594663.78140@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   schortingh_j@mercer.edu wrote: > Another additional reply:  > G > Will that LDAP support be for both Alpha and Itanium? We are on Alpha 
 > (7.3-2). > E > Then once that is available, there is the issue of when Oracle will 	 > certify E > LDAP and on what version of the database, and then there is the SCT F > certification also. We are still a year or two away from having this
 > capability.   D I can't speak directly to the LDAP question, but as you have seen inG the Oracle 10g R1 release notes, DBMS_LDAP is now supported and we have E tested it against OID.  Our goal is to implement the Active Directory D link in OID so that we can do "single sign on" across the universityE campus.  BTW: SungardSCT is working on Banner certification right now G and should be finished shortly.  And Oracle 10g R2 (shipping before the D end of June) will support both the Alphaserver and Integrity/Itanium product lines.   -Rich    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 10:44:39 -0800" From: "fishzilla" <efr@genrad.com>- Subject: simh on linux  bigger than 2gig disk C Message-ID: <1142880279.461588.290940@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   F I have simh running on RedHad ES version 4 and Fedora core 2 emulating a VAXserver3900.B Problem I am having, is when trying to get simh to reconize a disk bigger than 2gig.   $ set rq1 rauser=2000     "this works"  , set rq1 rauser=4000     "this does not work"  , The message I get back is "Invalid argument"    = But running simh under WinXp with the above setting   set rq1  rauser=4000   works fine.   	 Any ides?       Thanks for Anyhelp   
          Eric    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.158 ************************