1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 21 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 160       Contents:C Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution? ! Re: DS15 in HP E series cabinet ?  f$fao  F$FAO (!%D)  Re: F$FAO (!%D)  Re: F$FAO (!%D)  Re: F$FAO (!%D)  Re: F$FAO (!%D) > Re: IDC Insight: Customer Perceptions of the Future of Itanium Larger IDE disks for DS10L Re: Larger IDE disks for DS10L9 Opinion: I see my future without VMS and I don't like it. 4 USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS8 Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 [CHECKSUM] Support for DDIF ? ! Re: [CHECKSUM] Support for DDIF ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:34:49 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>L Subject: Re: Can I use DCPS LPD temporary files as a print to file solution?5 Message-ID: <210320061135059618%paul.anderson@hp.com>   8 In article <vd0m12podkqprfkrqm675rml4t9lgogbpn@4ax.com>,  <d_gillbilly@hotmail.com> wrote:  A > It seems good PS documentation requires spending some money. My ; > manuals here are V2 and I was thinking about getting some  > newer/better documentation.   E Adobe has the PostScript Language Reference manual (red book) on line  in PDF format:  4    <www.adobe.com/products/postscript/pdfs/PLRM.pdf>   Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:07:21 -0600 8 From: Carl Karcher <karcher.nomorespam@waisman.wisc.edu>* Subject: Re: DS15 in HP E series cabinet ?- Message-ID: <dvp8bp$f4e$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>    Kari Keronen wrote: M > Is it possible to rack DS15 in HP Rack System E41 cabinet ? If yes, what is  > the needed rack mount kit ?   D Do a google search for "alpha9000.pdf". This is a bit out dated but I covers the DS10 and DS20 (Isn't the DS15 the same physical box as one of   those?)    --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison ; --                      karcher.nomorespam@waisman.wisc.edu    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:39:41 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net>  Subject: f$fao* Message-ID: <44203A5D.5000302@comcast.net>   Dr. Dweeb wrote:    > Well,  >"  > $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D")  >  4-FEB-**** 00:45:19.29  >F  > I am too slow this afternoon I guess, but obviously despite the VMSC  > ability to deal with years of 5 digits, I really just need the 4   > necessary for this year.     , Not sure what you're trying to do here, but:  ! $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D",0)  21-MAR-2006 12:33:09.88    gives me the proper date/time.  ? I did replicate your results with a non-zero argument, but the  D documentation clearly says that "0" is needed for current date/time.   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 08:59:37 -0800+ From: "Dr. Dweeb" <comp.os.vms@hotmail.com>  Subject: F$FAO (!%D)B Message-ID: <1142960377.182701.66980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   Well,    $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D")   4-FEB-**** 00:45:19.29   C I am too slow this afternoon I guess, but obviously despite the VMS @ ability to deal with years of 5 digits, I really just need the 4 necessary for this year.  	 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 09:51:23 -0800+ From: "Dr. Dweeb" <comp.os.vms@hotmail.com>  Subject: Re: F$FAO (!%D)C Message-ID: <1142960714.982699.217460@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   - Well, obviously that is not today anyway, but   ( $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D",F$TIME())  3-FEB-**** 21:53:31.37 ( $ write sys$output f$fao("!%T",F$TIME()) 21:53:31.37 ( $ write sys$output f$fao("!AS",F$TIME()) 21-MAR-2006 18:05:16.05   	 But why ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:37:55 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)  Subject: Re: F$FAO (!%D)2 Message-ID: <7KXTf.5034$db3.1832@news.cpqcorp.net>  p In article <1142960377.182701.66980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, "Dr. Dweeb" <comp.os.vms@hotmail.com> writes: >Well, >   >$ write sys$output f$fao("!%D") > 4-FEB-**** 00:45:19.29 > D >I am too slow this afternoon I guess, but obviously despite the VMSA >ability to deal with years of 5 digits, I really just need the 4  >necessary for this year.    $ help lex f$fao dir   Lexicals     F$FAO        Directives   ..                    Argument -          Directive Type           Description  ..@          !%D       Integer        Inserts the current date/time.                    equal to 0  ..  ! $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D",0)    21-MAR-2006 12:37:43.07         --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:17:36 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)  Subject: Re: F$FAO (!%D)2 Message-ID: <kjYTf.5041$V33.1849@news.cpqcorp.net>  @   If you don't provide the expected argument for the call to the@   f$fao("!%D",[value]) lexical, you see unspecified and entirely@   undocumented behaviour -- this whether the value is a non-zeroB   integer, a string, or the new DCL support for imaginary numbers.B   (No, sorry, we don't have that last format available as yet. :-)  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 12:27:15 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: Re: F$FAO (!%D)3 Message-ID: <z$2UhjZ4H7Yl@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <1142960714.982699.217460@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Dr. Dweeb" <comp.os.vms@hotmail.com> writes: / > Well, obviously that is not today anyway, but  > * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D",F$TIME()) >  3-FEB-**** 21:53:31.37 * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!%T",F$TIME())
 > 21:53:31.37 * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!AS",F$TIME()) > 21-MAR-2006 18:05:16.05  >  > But why ?   G The lexical F$FAO is implemented as a simple jacket calling the SYS$FAO  system service.   F DCL does not look at the control string (the first parameter to F$FAO)B at all.  It does not parse it.  It has no idea what directives areD contained therein.  It simply passes it on, verbatim, to the SYS$FAO system service.   @ Since DCL does not parse the control string, it has no idea whatG directives it will contain or what arguments will be required for those = directives.  Accordingly, it cannot intelligently convert any A user-supplied parameters to the appropriate data type and calling  convention.   $ Instead, it uses a simple heuristic:  D o If the user supplies a parameter that is a numeric expression then7   the integer result will be passed by immediate value.   G   This works just fine for FAO directives that take numeric parameters,    such as !UL.  C o If the user supplies a parameter that is a string expression then G   a string descriptor will be constructed and the string result will be    passed by descriptor.   E   This works just fine for FAO directives that take string parameters    by descriptor, i.e. !AS   K The !%D directive calls for a quadword date-time to be passed by reference.   / As the HELP page indicates, DCL cannot do this.   D However, $FAO's !%D directive will treat a zero passed by value as a@ missing parameter and will default to the current date and time.  E Hence the instructions on the HELP page to pass a numeric zero (which ; will be passed by value and trigger this default behavior).   * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!%D",F$TIME()) >  3-FEB-**** 21:53:31.37   F F$TIME() is a string-valued lexical function.  Accordingly, its resultE (an ASCII string containing the current date and time) will be passed  by descriptor to SYS$FAO.   @ The !%D directive expects a quadword by reference.  Instead of aH address of a quadword it gets the address of a string descriptor.  So itF treats the string descriptor as a quadword date with predictably bogus results.  * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!%T",F$TIME())
 > 21:53:31.37   F F$TIME() is a string-valued lexical function.  Accordingly, its resultE (an ASCII string containing the current date and time) will be passed  by descriptor to SYS$FAO.   @ The !%T directive expects a quadword by reference.  Instead of aF pointer to a quadword it gets a pointer to a string descriptor.  So itF treats the string descriptor as a quadword date with predictably bogus results.  * > $ write sys$output f$fao("!AS",F$TIME()) > 21-MAR-2006 18:05:16.05   F F$TIME() is a string-valued lexical function.  Accordingly, its resultE (an ASCII string containing the current date and time) will be passed  by descriptor to SYS$FAO.   H The !AS directive expects a string by descriptor.  When it gets a string by descriptor, all is well.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:37:43 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>G Subject: Re: IDC Insight: Customer Perceptions of the Future of Itanium G Message-ID: <JJidnZDDMq3UMILZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Bill Todd wrote:I >>> http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/Itanium Perceptions348421.pdf D >> Wow - HP was specifically targeting Firefox users (since I had no8 >> problem downloading it with Firefox)?  I'm impressed! > H > Nop. It was Microsoft which began by allowing its browser to translateB > invalid URL to valid ones, and its Frontapge software generatingI > unescaped URLs, making it harder for those not on Microsoft browsers to J > navigate. But with Microsoft crap having invaded the net, other browsersI > (even Mosaic) now sport patches to fix bad URLs generated by people who I > don't know the standards. In other woirds, other software are learnintg H > to fix Microsoft's mistakes. But just because it workd doesn't make it! > right .Standards are standards.   F Your statement ("only those running a certain browser will be able to G access the PDF document because it contains an illformed URL") was not  F about standards:  it was a simple assertion of purported fact, and it I was wrong - so I pointed that out (albeit using a level of sarcasm which   apparently escaped you).   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:13:31 -0500 / From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> # Subject: Larger IDE disks for DS10L I Message-ID: <8660a3a10603210913g24e0a179o74ce76e3a1b4016b@mail.gmail.com>   + What have y'all used sucessfully, VMS-wise?   C (I'm thinking of upsizing and doing a fresh install of 8.2 so I can  VAMP around...)    Thanks in advance,   WWWebb   --C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:51:37 -0500 C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com> ' Subject: Re: Larger IDE disks for DS10L 4 Message-ID: <n0XTf.556$qe.40@bignews1.bellsouth.net>  H The Seagate/WD/maxtor 120GB 7200RPM works fine in ones we have built for	 customers    Walmart has them for about $80   DT   --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   : "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> wrote in messageC news:8660a3a10603210913g24e0a179o74ce76e3a1b4016b@mail.gmail.com... + What have y'all used sucessfully, VMS-wise?   C (I'm thinking of upsizing and doing a fresh install of 8.2 so I can  VAMP around...)    Thanks in advance,   WWWebb   --C NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  correspondence. C All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for 8 services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at# http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:22:22 GMT  From: d_gillbilly@hotmail.com B Subject: Opinion: I see my future without VMS and I don't like it.8 Message-ID: <ecb022h7qvrd47mvsa5p4fralkf9keter9@4ax.com>  
 Greetings,  E If I come across as extremely frustrated, it is because after working H for more than 20 years in paradise, I am finding being forced to work in# the mines a bitter pill to swallow.   H MS SMS is quite a piece of work isn't it... Sigh... Gotta pay the bills.  H Working in a small business non 24x7 environment does have some definiteE advantages. I get a guaranteed window in which I can work (actually a F scripted, batch environment does most of the work), each night. A goodH nightly backup can only be explained after you need it. Couple this with the fact that I can: create a disk .BCK file;G establish a secure link to a remote server to act as an off-line backup  repository;  write the .BCK to tape, B all with only a few lines of DCL. I can provide my customer with a8 solution that seems to be sorely needed in the industry.  F My customer sleeps well knowing at any time, his/her environment is atF most 24 hours away from being back up on the air. The few times that IH have ever experienced a problem that was that bad, the customer used the> time to get caught up on non computer related business chores.  F Small business doesn't understand lingo. Nor do they generally want toF understand. They will usually settle for availability, reliability and9 ease of use. The rest of the benefits are, well, gravy...   E Then, a shiny shoed, glossy papered clone with a lying smile takes it G away. One customer at a time. Spending lots of money porting 60% of our H custom applications to another platform. By the time that they have sunkF too much money into the project, it's too late to turn back. Pride and all.  C With a MTBF measured in years, most of the customers that have been C lured away, don't realize the advantage of having VMS in their shop E until they replace it. I cannot stop this as I have nothing but field D (actually desk) experience to describe the advantages of VMS. I haveE a hard time making people believe that I can actually manage 100's of G users (all with PC's), in multiple sites across the country, in varying E industries, without leaving my desk. I have a hard time making people E believe that I don't have a pager or even a cell phone. I have a hard > time making people believe that I work a 9-5 high(?) tech job.  , I see lots of potential for small VMS boxes.* But I am just a lowly tech, what can I do?  $ Small business is easy to work with.  Small business is ready for VMS. Small business needs VMS.   3 And it seems no one knows what I am talking about.     I feel so alone.   And so very afraid.   4    90% of the computing world only needs 10% of VMS,       Duane    ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2006 23:31:03 -0800" From: MiMo-nojunk.mail@t-online.de= Subject: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS B Message-ID: <1142926263.954838.15250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  
 Hi folks !  G A couple of weeks ago the need to read and write SD memory cards on VMS G arose ... related research was completed successfully with the friendly E help of Forrest Kenney - Thanks for your patience and time, Forrest !    The basic details in short:    - VMS 7.3-2 2 - PCI USB card with a NEC chip plugged into a DS10G - USB 4-slot memory card reader/writer, type "Hama 35in1", others known    to work as well * - USB kit from the freeware site installed"   (didn't work in the first place)> - several driver images contained in the USB kit replaced with   new versionsB - additional tool to select a particular slot of the reader/writer   (LUN support) B - WINFX kit to access the FAT formatted memory cards, can be found=   on the freeware site as well (it's not a part of the latest    distribution).  4 I tested the above with both SD and MS memory cards. Works like a charm.    Regards,    Michael   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:03:55 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGA Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <00A5303E.14D4AD9A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  g In article <1142926263.954838.15250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, MiMo-nojunk.mail@t-online.de writes:  >  >  >Hi folks !  > H >A couple of weeks ago the need to read and write SD memory cards on VMSH >arose ... related research was completed successfully with the friendlyF >help of Forrest Kenney - Thanks for your patience and time, Forrest ! >  >The basic details in short: >  >- VMS 7.3-23 >- PCI USB card with a NEC chip plugged into a DS10 H >- USB 4-slot memory card reader/writer, type "Hama 35in1", others known >  to work as well+ >- USB kit from the freeware site installed # >  (didn't work in the first place) ? >- several driver images contained in the USB kit replaced with  >  new versions C >- additional tool to select a particular slot of the reader/writer  >  (LUN support)C >- WINFX kit to access the FAT formatted memory cards, can be found > >  on the freeware site as well (it's not a part of the latest >  distribution).  > 5 >I tested the above with both SD and MS memory cards.  >Works like a charm.   > 	 >Regards,  > 	 > Michael   G I plugged and IO Magic 80GB USB drive which I use as photo storage with G my PowerBook into my Itanium running OpenVMS V8.2.  System crashes with H a CLUEXIT.  If I boot standalone, the system just freezes when the driveG is attached.  Maybe it can't handle 80GB.  How large are your SD cards? G I have 4GB and 8GB Compact Flash III cards.  Is there a reader that can 
 handle these?    --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 04:25:56 -0800" From: MiMo-nojunk.mail@t-online.deA Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS C Message-ID: <1142943956.610816.198840@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    [...]   I > I plugged and IO Magic 80GB USB drive which I use as photo storage with I > my PowerBook into my Itanium running OpenVMS V8.2.  System crashes with  > a CLUEXIT.  < I had similar difficulties with the "old" USB kit first whenG (un)plugging the reader and/or the card. Did you ask Forrest K. to pass G you the latest USB-related images being resident in SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES  ?   K > If I boot standalone, the system just freezes when the drive is attached.   ? On Alpha, a DNxx: device didn't show up using the old images...  A freezer on IA64 ?   ; > Maybe it can't handle 80GB.  How large are your SD cards?   1 The cards I did the tests with were 512MB and 1GB   I > I have 4GB and 8GB Compact Flash III cards.  Is there a reader that can  > handle these?   A No idea. Is there a known restriction as for card sizes with such 	 readers ?    Michael    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 04:39:07 -0800/ From: "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> A Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS B Message-ID: <1142944747.761796.49420@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  E We're using a USB MAXTOR 120 GB disk connected to a rx2600 with V8.2. E Sometimes takes a while to configure the disk in EFI during boot, but 
 no problem. to use the disk as an ODS-5 disk from OpenVMS.   Volker.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 07:22:49 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.ukA Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS B Message-ID: <1142954569.779016.55300@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  D Are the kits available anywhere or is it just by special delivery by Forrest?  = >I had similar difficulties with the "old" USB kit first when H >(un)plugging the reader and/or the card. Did you ask Forrest K. to passJ >you the latest USB-related images being resident in SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:37:23 -0500 C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com> A Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS 5 Message-ID: <z2VTf.115$Pe.102@bignews6.bellsouth.net>   L Well we have an IDE Flash card reader that works just like a hard drive (non hot pluggable)  I We have booted VMS from it and successfully completed a backup to it from  VMS 7.2-1 and VMS 7.3-2   ! It accepts SD, Compactflash cards   / Currently have an IBM Microdrive n4GB installed    DT   --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   / <MiMo-nojunk.mail@t-online.de> wrote in message < news:1142926263.954838.15250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi folks ! > I > A couple of weeks ago the need to read and write SD memory cards on VMS I > arose ... related research was completed successfully with the friendly G > help of Forrest Kenney - Thanks for your patience and time, Forrest !  >  > The basic details in short:  > 
 > - VMS 7.3-2 4 > - PCI USB card with a NEC chip plugged into a DS10I > - USB 4-slot memory card reader/writer, type "Hama 35in1", others known  >   to work as well , > - USB kit from the freeware site installed$ >   (didn't work in the first place)@ > - several driver images contained in the USB kit replaced with >   new versionsD > - additional tool to select a particular slot of the reader/writer >   (LUN support) D > - WINFX kit to access the FAT formatted memory cards, can be found? >   on the freeware site as well (it's not a part of the latest  >   distribution). > 6 > I tested the above with both SD and MS memory cards. > Works like a charm.  > 
 > Regards, > 
 >  Michael >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:20:28 -0500 , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>A Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS & Message-ID: <442027CC.D0BA00E0@hp.com>  < 	As a warning many USB mass storage device do not work with G the RX2600 firmware.  At the present time there are no plans to release F new firmware for this.  The newer systems have been getting fixes for A USB problems as they get found.  I exchange mail with the person  B responsible for the USB support in the EFI code for the low to mid range systems.   Forrest  OpenVMS Development      Volker Halle wrote:  > G > We're using a USB MAXTOR 120 GB disk connected to a rx2600 with V8.2. G > Sometimes takes a while to configure the disk in EFI during boot, but  > no problem0 > to use the disk as an ODS-5 disk from OpenVMS. > 	 > Volker.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:30:47 -0500 , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>A Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS & Message-ID: <44202A37.7EBEEC33@hp.com>   etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote:  > F > Are the kits available anywhere or is it just by special delivery by
 > Forrest? > ? 	When I get a chance I give updates to the person who owns the  D freeware site. Then the person who handles the site when they get a E chance updates the site.  But for both of us that is not part of our   jobs.   ? 	If someone approaches me with a specific need and I have time  F I will get images to them.  But it is strictly on a case by case basisH and if I have time.  If I believe I will find or fix a possible problem D in the code you have a better chance.  I gave Micahel one as he was D tripping over a known  weakness in the code around handling multipleE LUN devices.  There is now latent support for minimal LUN support in  A the V8.3 driver.  The next most recent one was passed out to get  6 some testing of the IO$_DIAGNOSE hooks in the driver.     ? > >I had similar difficulties with the "old" USB kit first when J > >(un)plugging the reader and/or the card. Did you ask Forrest K. to passL > >you the latest USB-related images being resident in SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES ?  A 	Mass storage is not officially supported until V8.3.  Even then  H the plan is for support of some built in DVD drives in upcoming systems.C Anything beyond that, that works is goodness and I will try to make  thingsA work when possible.  But what will get first attention is what is 
 supported.   Forrest  OpenVMS Development    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:34:14 -0500 , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>A Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS & Message-ID: <44202B06.8558625E@hp.com>  > 	The driver in stock V8.2 has an image ident of 8 and the one C on the freeware site is X-13.  The problems you describe would not  E surprise me for either of those versions of the driver.  The current  D one for V8.3 has and Ident as of this moring of X-22.  It would not D surprise me to see that change before we finally ship V8.3.  I find F and fix bugs on a regular basis.  Usually, after someone shows with a $ new device I have never seen before.  @ 	As to the size limit that is limited to the capacity of a SCSI E read or write 10 command.  Which is well above what you have with an  ? 80 GB drive.  My test disks range in size from 5Gb to 120 Gb.      Forrest   ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > i > In article <1142926263.954838.15250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, MiMo-nojunk.mail@t-online.de writes:  > >  > > 
 > >Hi folks !  > > J > >A couple of weeks ago the need to read and write SD memory cards on VMSJ > >arose ... related research was completed successfully with the friendlyH > >help of Forrest Kenney - Thanks for your patience and time, Forrest ! > >  > >The basic details in short: > >  > >- VMS 7.3-25 > >- PCI USB card with a NEC chip plugged into a DS10 J > >- USB 4-slot memory card reader/writer, type "Hama 35in1", others known > >  to work as well- > >- USB kit from the freeware site installed % > >  (didn't work in the first place) A > >- several driver images contained in the USB kit replaced with  > >  new versions E > >- additional tool to select a particular slot of the reader/writer  > >  (LUN support)E > >- WINFX kit to access the FAT formatted memory cards, can be found @ > >  on the freeware site as well (it's not a part of the latest > >  distribution).  > > 7 > >I tested the above with both SD and MS memory cards.  > >Works like a charm. > >  > >Regards,  > >  > > Michael  > I > I plugged and IO Magic 80GB USB drive which I use as photo storage with I > my PowerBook into my Itanium running OpenVMS V8.2.  System crashes with J > a CLUEXIT.  If I boot standalone, the system just freezes when the driveI > is attached.  Maybe it can't handle 80GB.  How large are your SD cards? I > I have 4GB and 8GB Compact Flash III cards.  Is there a reader that can  > handle these?  >  > --M > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM  > 6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:25:34 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGA Subject: Re: USB mass storage - accessing memory cards on OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <00A53073.661F214F@SendSpamHere.ORG>  U In article <44202B06.8558625E@hp.com>, Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com> writes:  >  >  > ? >	The driver in stock V8.2 has an image ident of 8 and the one  D >on the freeware site is X-13.  The problems you describe would not F >surprise me for either of those versions of the driver.  The current E >one for V8.3 has and Ident as of this moring of X-22.  It would not  E >surprise me to see that change before we finally ship V8.3.  I find  G >and fix bugs on a regular basis.  Usually, after someone shows with a  % >new device I have never seen before.  > A >	As to the size limit that is limited to the capacity of a SCSI  F >read or write 10 command.  Which is well above what you have with an @ >80 GB drive.  My test disks range in size from 5Gb to 120 Gb.     ????   Isn't 5GB < 80GB < 120GB ???   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:12:04 +0200  From: "Mandi" <mandi@rans.com> Subject: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 1 Message-ID: <dvofu1$okh$1@news2.netvision.net.il>   ' Hwo do I run zip in this version of OS?    Thanks   Mandi    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 11:41:55 +0100/ From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)  Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 + Message-ID: <Ikvq04LZAeA6@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   R In article <dvofu1$okh$1@news2.netvision.net.il>, "Mandi" <mandi@rans.com> writes:) > Hwo do I run zip in this version of OS?   3 Short answer: the same way as in other versions :-)   < You probably want to know how to get a version of zip/unzip : usable on a VMS 6.*, because to build it from the current . distribution, I need an executable to unpack ?  : If so, look into the tools directory of VMS SIG "tapes" of the VMS 6.* timeframe, e.g. at-  http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/97bvmslt/tools/   9 The Freeware CD of the VMS 6.* distributions probably has  also zip/unzip (does it ?).    --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:20:18 +0100 ( From: JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 : Message-ID: <caa45$441fe172$82a13cad$996@news2.tudelft.nl>   Joseph Huber wrote: T > In article <dvofu1$okh$1@news2.netvision.net.il>, "Mandi" <mandi@rans.com> writes: > ) >>Hwo do I run zip in this version of OS?  >  > 5 > Short answer: the same way as in other versions :-)  > > > You probably want to know how to get a version of zip/unzip < > usable on a VMS 6.*, because to build it from the current 0 > distribution, I need an executable to unpack ? > < > If so, look into the tools directory of VMS SIG "tapes" of  > the VMS 6.* timeframe, e.g. at/ >  http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/97bvmslt/tools/  > ; > The Freeware CD of the VMS 6.* distributions probably has  > also zip/unzip (does it ?).  > 9 Or get the latest versions from info-zip. See for links : 7 http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html#ZIP   F Especially the 3.0beta version includes many impovements for extended  filenames on ODS5 disks.                       Jouk   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 13:31:14 +0100/ From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)  Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 + Message-ID: <IAaYOYFj1Gwv@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   e In article <caa45$441fe172$82a13cad$996@news2.tudelft.nl>, JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> writes: ; > Or get the latest versions from info-zip. See for links : 9 > http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html#ZIP  > H > Especially the 3.0beta version includes many impovements for extended  > filenames on ODS5 disks. > A Jouk, o.k., but You have ignored that the OP speaks about VMS 6.2 M Current binaries for VMS 7.+ don't run on 6.2, and the distribution You point G to is a zip archive, needs unzip.exe to extract ... it is a hen and egg M situation, resolved only by getting zip/unzip executables linked to a VMS 6.2  or earlier.     --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:18:04 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com>  Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 8 Message-ID: <a%STf.2018$lM3.1755@bignews3.bellsouth.net>   Joseph Huber wrote: g > In article <caa45$441fe172$82a13cad$996@news2.tudelft.nl>, JOUKJ <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> writes: < >> Or get the latest versions from info-zip. See for links :: >> http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software1.html#ZIP >>I >> Especially the 3.0beta version includes many impovements for extended   >> filenames on ODS5 disks.  >>C > Jouk, o.k., but You have ignored that the OP speaks about VMS 6.2 O > Current binaries for VMS 7.+ don't run on 6.2, and the distribution You point I > to is a zip archive, needs unzip.exe to extract ... it is a hen and egg O > situation, resolved only by getting zip/unzip executables linked to a VMS 6.2 
 > or earlier.  >   B My distributions of Zip and UnZip include .OBJs that can be linked@ under VAX/VMS V5.4 or later and OpenVMS Alpha V6.2 or later (and@ OpenVMS I64 V8.2 and later).  As for chicken/egg, you can eitherE download the UNZIP.*EXE executables I provide (linked under VMS V6.x)  or download UNZIP.BCK.  , ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/1 http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/   C The UNZIP.* executables can be found in the vms-freeware directory.    --     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ B PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway for OpenVMS, Tru64, Solaris, & Linux9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:47:08 +0100 - From: "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de>  Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 + Message-ID: <48aeesFiglcqU1@individual.net>   2 "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@goatley.com> wrote...$ > As for chicken/egg, you can eitherG > download the UNZIP.*EXE executables I provide (linked under VMS V6.x)  > or download UNZIP.BCK. > . > ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/3 > http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/  > E > The UNZIP.* executables can be found in the vms-freeware directory.    Sorry, Hunter, but -  3 $ ftp ftp.process.com "anonymous" mv@pdv-systeme.de  ...  FTP> cd vms-freeware 250 CWD command okay.  FTP> bin 200 TYPE command okay. FTP> get unzip.alpha_exe 200 STRU command okay. 200 TYPE command okay. 200 PORT command okay.L 150 Opening data connection for /anonymous_root/vms-freeware/unzip.alpha_exe (164352 bytes). : 226 Closing data connection. 163376 (8) bytes transferred. FTP> bye 221 Service closing connection.  $ mcr []unzip.alpha_exe -v, UnZip 5.52 of 28 February 2005, by Info-ZIP. ... G Compiled with DEC C V6.2-003 for OpenVMS (V7.3-2 Alpha) on Feb 28 2005. 7                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^!   % Just had the same discussion on ITRC.   J FWIW: I made an old version (5.42) of UNZIP.EXE available on my employer's/ server, linked under OpenVMS Alpha 1.5 ;-) , at , ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/unzip.alpha_exe7 http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/unzip.alpha_exe    HTH,   Martin --  B  Your mouse has moved.      | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!5  Windows must be restarted  | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de H  for the change to take     |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/<  effect. Reboot now? [OK]   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 05:47:30 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zip on VMS ver 6.2 C Message-ID: <1142948850.127072.296150@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Mandi wrote:) > Hwo do I run zip in this version of OS?  >  > Thanks >  > Mandi   B Go to the freeware page at the hp OpenVMS Web site and get zip andF unzip from the 000tools directory of the v4.0 freeware CD. Those works for me on both VMS 6.1 and 6.2.    AEF    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 15:37:37 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: [CHECKSUM] Support for DDIF ?* Message-ID: <44201dc1@news.langstoeger.at>  G As you may already know, CHECKSUM was undocumented/unsupported in older E versions of VMS (and did only XOR), but is now supported and improved F (does also MD5, ...) with V8 (you may even run the V8.2 checksum imageH on V7 - with an extra .CLD and an extra CMA$TIS_SHR.EXE of course) which is good.  D On the other side, I just noticed that V8 CHECKSUM has problems with) DDIF files (files with STORED_SEMANTICS):   A %CKSM-E-OPENERR, error opening file		<--- where is the filename ? 9 -RMS-E-OPNOTSUP, operation not supported by RMS Extension   H V7 CHECKSUM did only checksum the content of the DDIF file it could readJ (which is the same behaviour as TYPE,EDIT and READ have) - which eg. meansC it computes "0" with an .AUD file (you know, the DDIF sound files).   * Is this a bug of V8 checksum or a feature?  E As I read the HELP/MESSAGE OPNOTSUP a $PUT is involved, which is IMHO H not neccessary/dangerous and the reason for the problem, so it is a bug.   TIA    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Mar 2006 16:55:30 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)* Subject: Re: [CHECKSUM] Support for DDIF ?, Message-ID: <44203002$1@news.langstoeger.at>  c In article <44201dc1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: E >On the other side, I just noticed that V8 CHECKSUM has problems with * >DDIF files (files with STORED_SEMANTICS):  J Not only with DDIF files, but also with some other files ("write locked").K It seems, V8 CHECKSUM does not open the file read-only/shared. Is this so ?   L Could we please have a fixed CHECKSUM.EXE via ECO (for V8.2 but also V7.3-2)   TIA    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.160 ************************