1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 31 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 178       Contents:( <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%>= >@>@>@>@>GET MORE CHICKS............LEARN GUITAR............. M Amnesty for illegal immigrants will not happen this time.....................  CI780 specs and 8600 specs? $ Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout Re: DS15 internal SCSI cable< Illegal Immigration, the Non-Issue of the Week?????????????? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium?: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely> Re: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely KDM70 specs? Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem  Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem . Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS. Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS. Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS> OT - Night of the living MBAs (was:Re: Intel to sell itanium?)' OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question + Re: OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question  Re: RMS With C++ Re: RMS With C++G Re: The Minimum You Need to Know to Be an OpenVMS Application Developer P Will illegal immigrants get deported?.........Of course not.....................  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 06:00:34 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)1 Subject: <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%> , Message-ID: <789696533006@free.teranews.com>  2 You too can learn to be funny in just 7 days flat:  + http://www.ExpertHumor.com/HowToBeFunny.htm                 . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 05:35:53 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)F Subject: >@>@>@>@>GET MORE CHICKS............LEARN GUITAR............., Message-ID: <774894533006@free.teranews.com>   Chicks dig guitar players. So get more chicks!  Learn how to play guitar!   * http://www.ExpertHumor.com/LearnGuitar.htm                        . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 04:53:33 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)V Subject: Amnesty for illegal immigrants will not happen this time....................., Message-ID: <749484733006@free.teranews.com>  7 Our politicians lead the league in all talk, no action. ( Is blowing us some sunshine good enough? Read what The Expert thinks:   http://www.ExpertHumor.com/               . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:05:24 -0500 2 From: "Timothy Stark" <fsword7_nospam@comcast.net>$ Subject: CI780 specs and 8600 specs?0 Message-ID: <VOidnSMhGovCE7HZRVn-ug@comcast.com>   Hello folks,  K I have everything about 11/780 technical manuals except CI780 specs.  Does  J anyone have a copy of CI780 specs for 11/780 system?  Is that possible to G emulate it for cluster?  However, I recently found CIXCD specs for XMI  H interface on Manx archives.  Is that possible to emulate it for cluster  systems?  D I found a copy of 8600 specs through Manx archives but not complete M technical manuals.  I think that it is similar with SBI specs for 780 except  B some differences.  Does anyone have a complete of 8600/8650 specs?   Thanks!  Tim    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:50:52 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> - Subject: Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603301149350.32686@localhost.localdomain>   $ On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, JF Mezei wrote:  * > You need certain chants and incantations  ' And a spell-checker will be invaluable.    ;-)      --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o mA G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (866)438-2101 (voice) toll free! 6 Edmonton                         (780)438-9343 (voice)5                                   (780)437-3367 (FAX) 2                                   http://gmcl.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:12:25 -0500 C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com> % Subject: Re: DS15 internal SCSI cable 7 Message-ID: <i1WWf.2875$L6.2784@bignews5.bellsouth.net>   C Well we have U160 cables here with I think 5 connectors NEW for $45   = I never got a call from you about DS15 systems... hmmmmm?!?!?    --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   3 "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote in message < news:1143744319.899238.89290@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...E > We're adding a DS15 to an existing distributed set of DS10 systems.  > I > (Purchased through a third party reseller since we can't sell a million I > bucks worth of these a year and so are no longer worthy to be resellers  > ourselves, thank you HP) > C > The DS10s are configured with 4 hard drives; two internal and two I > universals in a front access cage; the internal disks are on a separate G > controller than the universals; shadowing is run between the internal I > disks on one channel and the front access disks on the other.  The DS10 H > quickspec provided a part number 3X-BN51A-SE 3-connector cable for theE > SCSI cable used for either internal or front access cage drives; we I > have two in each system generally feeding from a pair of KZPCA or KZPBA  > controllers. > C > The DS15 quickspec indicates a cable is "provided" with the front E > access cage, but no part number is given; its different because its I > apparently a 4-connector cable.  I can't find a separate listing for an G > internal cable in the specs.  The cable is also not identified in the F > owner's guide.  The DS15 and its cable are not accessible so I can't@ > get a part number from it (if there even is one on the cable). > H > Since the DS15 cable is used with the embedded U160 controller I'm notI > even sure if a second such cable would work from a PCI based controller % > (length or other packaging issues?)  > G > So... anyone got a part number or recommendation for a U160-compliant @ > cable for use between internal disks in a DS15 and a PCI based. > controller?  Will the DS10 part number work? > 	 > Thanks!  >    ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 04:08:44 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)E Subject: Illegal Immigration, the Non-Issue of the Week?????????????? , Message-ID: <722596633006@free.teranews.com>  , The way our politicians rushed to talk about4 illegal immigration this week, maybe they thought it9 came with a free lunch. They won't do anything about it,  4 but it will get them some money. The Expert provides the details at:    http://www.ExpertHumor.com/               . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 13:04:56 -06004 From: kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)# Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <CqjpyOo1kdwS@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <e016d3$5an$1@naig.caltech.edu>, David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> writes: ! > shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: 6 >> What I'm surprised at is how few heads have rolled. > B > Are you kidding?  Thousands and thousands have been fired.  Just1 > not those suits who made all the bad decisions.  >   = That is one thing I always wondered about.  How can I adjust  < _my_ career path such that I can be totally incompetent and ? get paid millions?  Where is the CEO school, and how do I sign  < up?  I'd need a full lobotomy, because in my current state I; insist on quality and accountability, but hopefully it'd be & covered by the platinum level medical.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:05:13 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? , Message-ID: <442C39EC.1F7E78BF@teksavvy.com>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:> > That is one thing I always wondered about.  How can I adjust= > _my_ career path such that I can be totally incompetent and @ > get paid millions?  Where is the CEO school, and how do I sign > up?     F YOu become an accountant at a company like Compaq. Then, you make sureC the company has problems and fire their CEO but nobody elase in the D world wants the job and they put you in. You run thatc ompany in theB ground while negotiating to be taken over. Then, you get people toE applaud your "rescue" skills and as soon as you're fired from the new F copmbined entity, you get another CEO job at a failed/bankrupt companyG where nobody else wants the job. Your first task is to find a buyer for F that company because you know you're incompetant and couldn't fix that	 company.    D It is a question of getting some opportunity at one point in time toH rise so much higher than your peter-principle level that people actually think you are smart.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 16:16:15 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <Cehvl7o0bLsx@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <4926qhFlglfvU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  G > I know that and you know that, but JF seemed to think these engineers G > had no choice in the matter.  And, sports teams are another matter as J > they seem to be able to do lots of things that would be illegal in otherF > businesses (like owner agreed upon salary caps, sounds too much like# > collusion and price-fixing to me.   F    Sports teams don't hire players, they contract with them.  When newH    players start they sign a contract which allows these sort of things.E    And sports leagues get special laws which let them do such things.   @    In most cases the leagues are monopolies and special laws are    appropriate.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:07:18 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net># Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? G Message-ID: <soadnQOIdMsEy7HZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    JF Mezei wrote:    ...   G > Ask yourself this: did Compaq give those engineers severance packages J > because it was closing that division and firing all its employees ? No. H > It transfered all HR issues over to the new owner of that division andC > from Compaq's point of view, it did not have to provide severance H > packages because it gave/sold the division ALONG WITH ITS EMPLOYEES toP > Intel, so it all became Intel's responsability to deal with its new employees.  D Wrong again, JF.  The reason that Compaq did not have to handle the F situation was because the engineers accepted explicit (and reportedly I very attractive) Intel offers, not because it was able to 'transfer' any  
 HR issues.  C Had any of the engineers not wished to join Intel, they would most  H likely have been offered alternate positions within Compaq, rather than B offered severance packages.  In any event, they were *not* simply  'transferred' to Intel.    - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 16:33:09 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <zABPD8Lixi5u@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <CqjpyOo1kdwS@eisner.encompasserve.org>, kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) writes:  ? > That is one thing I always wondered about.  How can I adjust  > > _my_ career path such that I can be totally incompetent and A > get paid millions?  Where is the CEO school, and how do I sign  > > up?  I'd need a full lobotomy, because in my current state I= > insist on quality and accountability, but hopefully it'd be ( > covered by the platinum level medical.  B    The CEO schools are Harvard and Yale.  To get in your parent(s)F    must be a CEO, Governor, President, General, or Member of Congress.  D    These schools are not so much interested in your GPA as they are:    1) can you afford to go? 4    2) does your family show a history of leadership?  B    They think leadership runs in families.  Thus GWB got in becaseG    GHWB got in and was high in the Federal Government when GWB applied. A    GWB got in because his father owned and ran a big oil company.   D    So go get reborn as Billy Gates, Jr., and you, too, can go to CEO
    school.  G    Or get good, at least somewhat, and lucky, very lucky, and become a      CEO on your own.   B    Just think where Billy would be if IBM had never given him thatF    contract for MS-DOS.  It wasn't his talent for programming that got    him where he is.    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 16:25:37 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <Co9Xppxml4ER@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <442C1451.8B99E3A0@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:H >> I know that and you know that, but JF seemed to think these engineers  >> had no choice in the matter.  > H > They had no choice. The division is moved/sold to Intel, the employees > follow automatically.   C    Typically when companies or parts of them are bought or sold the C    employee/employer relationship goes with them, as do assets and      debts.  But not always.  7    Most states are employ at will states, as long as no =    anti-discrmination laws are broken people can get fired or     quit with no reason.   A    In some places employees have employment contracts, similar to C    sports players.  In those cases the employee cannot get fired or -    quit in a manner contrary to the contract.   C    In many places employment is covered by a union contract.  "Same     difference."   E    Provided the contract is legal.  Contract law varies from state to 	    state.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:03:20 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? , Message-ID: <442C63B7.49F990A6@teksavvy.com>   Bob Koehler wrote:D >    Just think where Billy would be if IBM had never given him thatH >    contract for MS-DOS.  It wasn't his talent for programming that got >    him where he is.   F Actually, it goes one step further: it was Bill Gate's daddy that gave  his son the connection with IBM.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:17:30 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? , Message-ID: <442C7515.A86F6E75@teksavvy.com>   Bill Todd wrote:E > Wrong again, JF.  The reason that Compaq did not have to handle the G > situation was because the engineers accepted explicit (and reportedly J > very attractive) Intel offers, not because it was able to 'transfer' any > HR issues.  
 Semantics.  H Fact is that bulk transfer of Alpha engineers to Intel was negotiated asA part of the Alphacide deal. How it was actually accomplished with F regards to paperwork is not very relevant. Employees followed the pathG laid to them by the CEOs, and some decided not to follow that path. But  the path was set by the CEOs.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:31:09 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net># Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? = Message-ID: <nc-dnZYcedfDG7HZRVn-gA@metrocastcablevision.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Bill Todd wrote:F >> Wrong again, JF.  The reason that Compaq did not have to handle theH >> situation was because the engineers accepted explicit (and reportedlyK >> very attractive) Intel offers, not because it was able to 'transfer' any 
 >> HR issues.  >  > Semantics.  H Horseshit.  You were flat-out-wrong in asserting that the engineers had I been in any manner 'sold' as part of the package, and are now attempting  5 in your typical manner to bluster your way out of it.    > J > Fact is that bulk transfer of Alpha engineers to Intel was negotiated as > part of the Alphacide deal.   B Since after the deal with Compaq was settled Intel then conducted H separate negotiations with the individual engineers for their services, I that statement of purported 'fact' is patently incorrect.  The very most  I that could have been involved would have been assurances from Intel that  I it would make attractive offers to the engineers involved (not that this  F would have taken any arm-twisting on Compaq's part, of course:  Intel I *needed* those people to help rescue Itanic, ineffective use to which it  > put their talents after having obtained them notwithstanding).  '   How it was actually accomplished with , > regards to paperwork is not very relevant.  H It was not a matter of 'paperwork', you moron:  it was a matter of your E not having a clue, as usual - and not in any way letting that abject  ( ignorance slow you down, again as usual.  B Much as I may deplore some of the techniques that people in other I newsgroups which you frequent may use to harass you, the esteem in which  ) they hold you is entirely understandable.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:01:17 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? , Message-ID: <442CB79B.227C3626@teksavvy.com>   Bill Todd wrote:I > Horseshit.  You were flat-out-wrong in asserting that the engineers had J > been in any manner 'sold' as part of the package, and are now attempting7 > in your typical manner to bluster your way out of it.     F You can believe what you want. But the transfer of Alpha engineers wasD part of the announcement of the Alphacide. Same with when Palmer got Intel to take the Hudson FAB.   C When DEC sold off its disk drive business, do you really think that H Qantum got an empty manufacturing plant and proceeded to hire individualC unemployed ex DEC employees ? Transfer of employees was part of the  deal.     D The Alpha engineers were hot property. Intel would have been totallyG stupid not to include them in the deal so that it would have first dibs B at making offers to keep them as Intel engineers. And consider theE various "no compete" agreements that are usually associated with such H employees. Intel would made damned sure they didn't apply to those Alpha$ engineers opting to stay with Intel.  F You are very naive to think that Intel just hired those engineers. TheA fact that Intel gave certain employees better offers is simply an 1 indication that Intel really wanted to KEEP them.   D Also, if you recall, Compaq , as part of its announcement, did stateF that a number of employees would remain within Compaq to complete EV70G and EV79 after which they too would be transfered to Intel. Again, this  was part of the deal.   D Curly may have been way above his level of competance as CEO, but heB wasn't stupid and would have made damned sure that Compaq got goodB financial or other compensation for the transfer of those valuableH engineers.  You just don't let go such a valueable asset without getting good money for it.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 19:17:43 -0800 From: agascoig@yahoo.comC Subject: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely C Message-ID: <1143775062.978384.302340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>   D It was October of 2002 in La Jolla, CA.  I was a graduate student atE UCSD studying electrical engineering and failing out of school with a E 3.44 GPA, according to Jehovah, that GPA means failing.  What did God D decide to do?  At the moment I confessed to the campus police that IB was depressed, he had a demon possess me and tell me, "I'm sorry,"D meaning I was to be damned.  What would happen next would nearly endG the world when Satan got involved.  I was paranoid and thought that the E government was spying on me at school--the day I returned home the LA > Times had an article, "When in doubt, kick out?" about how theG government was starting to spy on even caucasians and do "psychological 	 warfare."   C I did not know that hearing "I'm sorry" in my head meant I would be B damned.  Over the months, I started taking 150mg of Effexor XR perC day--it seemed like my problems were behind me in my mania.  Due to F more demon attacks, I thought it was going to be the end of the world.C But first, I started attending church, as Effexor XR than suggested C that going to church might help with depression.  I was baptized on B March 9, 2003, my 27th birthday, by Pastor Doug in Buena Park.  MyF mother gave me a book called the "Journey of Iztlan," about the end ofF the world, and on March 31, 2003 I took off in my car at 150 miles perF hour, driving a Honda Accord LX, toward the nuclear power plant in SanC Onofre, CA, thinking that this would fool people into trying to get B free of a nuclear attack in Orange County.  As I was driving back,G heaven and hell entered my body and I missed the 405 freeway going back F home and stayed on the 5 freeway, getting totally lost.  Eventually, IG pulled off the freeway and tried to head West, going towards the ocean, F to try in vain to find a way home.  I was possessed directly by Satan,F who was interested in me because I thought it was the end of the worldF and they could not kill me.  So what happened, in my mania, was that IF ended up about to drive my car off of a cliff in San Pedro, but heavenG or some voice told me to drive back quickly, which I did at the maximum E speed I could, nearly totaling my car and sending me to the hospital.   G I was sent home that evening, with no tickets, and it looked like I had B just been in a manic situation.  Little did I know that Satan, whoE lives in England, would think it was the end of the world.  You might C have seen on the Drudge Report that there was a talking fish in New F York about this time that told people to "study the Talmud," a SatanicD text meant to make Hebrews fail out of heaven.  Satan and his demonsG kept trying to kill me, and soon in the month of April, before going to E see a psychiatrist, I was possessed directly by Jesus and told not to @ go see a doctor.  My parents kicked me out of the house with theA police, forcing me into College Hospital for three days, and then G living in motels.  The angel Atan, who would later fall for refusing to G love me, sentenced me to twenty years of hell, the same term as Hitler, F for having hurt people for Satan thinking it was the end of the world.E I was told that I would be killed within 15 minutes, but for whatever  reason, Jehovah let me live.  A In the following months, I tried, although weakly, due to my evil G heart, to talk to the homeless in the area of Orange County, CA.  I had A read in the Bible that with faith, anybody would be released from E demonic possession, so I foolishly again sought to go to churches and G pray.  God continued to hurt me, moving my soul to the right side of my E body, and I smelled smoke, meaning I am to go to the lake of fire for E being evil and trying to have faith.  I sought help on this newsgroup B numerous times, and you all thought I was a liar, not doing a damn thing to help me.   E Satan's present estimate is that there are up to 70 years left before D the end of the world.  You should also know that about 13 years ago,F heaven wanted to kill all of the homosexuals in America, including me,E but Jesus argued with God, since this would cause "glory eyed" people E who were very loving of people,. including homosexuals, to think that B God was evil.  During the Bush administration, it was said that itG could never be done because Bush was an evangelical.  Let me recap what : I explained to you on this newsgroup and other newsgroups:  D Aug 12 2003: I told you that Great Evil was on earth hurting people,E with 20,000 demons in America.  There will be up to 240,000 demons by C the end.  They are forbidden to go to certain places presently like B Israel, China, and Canada; and Mexico because it is too bad there.D India, too, they are forbidden to go.  Mainly, Satan as I have said,G lives in England and the area around him is very godly.  He lives in an B apartment.  The reason that Satan has been so angry with me and myF family is that thinking that it was the end of the world caused him toF spend $15 million out of $25 million dollars.  They invested in thingsD like stickers with embedded psychological messages that they put allF over Orange County, and underground music designed to hurt people thatE sounds like a dance mix, but again has hidden psychological messages. G Sep 8 2003: I told you that Jesus told me that 80% of holocaust victims D were saved on soc.culture.israel.  Hitler was in fact crazy, and GodF allowed the holocaust because it saved entire Hebrew families in tact.G Anne Frank, the author of her diaries, was damned for thinking that God   was evil to allow the holocaust.< Oct 30 2003: I told you that God loved hispanic people much.@ Dec 14 2003: I told you I was evil and having trouble talking to homeless people.E Jan 20 2004: I told you that Satan found that my name, Alexander, was E Ezekiel and that my name said as "Ezekiel Agasco" added up to 666 and ? that they thought I could be the Antichrist.  I had returned to ! Southern California from Florida. G Aug 9 2004: I told you that Jesus told me that at the end of the world, B people needed to "love well" and not care so much if they lived or died. G Wed, Aug 4 2004: I told you that I had been possessed for more than one  year. F Sat, Aug 14 2004: I told you that there were 20,000 demons in the U.S.C May 19th, 2005: I told you that I was seeking an exorcism in Orange E County from Father Joe Fenton (frjfenton@rcbo.org) and he did nothing D to help me.  Heaven said that I was beyond help--that the Bible says/ there are people that should not be prayed for. F Wed, Mar 29 2006: I told you not to go to Church because Jehovah hurtsE people without mercy, as it says in the Bible that Jehovah would hurt ) certain groups of people with "no mercy."   F What has God been doing with his powers?  Instead of helping people toF be saved, he has been hurting me in Southern California--hurting up toE millions of people.  Everybody I have known, including my family, has C been badly hurt by Great Evil due to my private, sins of homosexual B computer porn.  Jehovah says that I can never be released from theC demons.  I have had two exorcisms from Calvary Chapel in Huntington F Beach and written to all of the United States Senate telling them thatE I have been demon possessed, and still Jehovah is evil and refuses to E release me or kill me.  I have been threated with going to Lake Level 1 5, which is the hottest part of the Lake of Fire.   D I had even tried traveling to Florida, twice, because the angel AtanG thought that travelling usually released people.  I have tried going to F gay bars, and even a bathhouse to get through to "Kim Jong Il" JehovahG to please stop hurting me and my family.  We just cannot get through to E Jehovah that he needs to stop hurting me.  Many angels in heaven have G wanted me to be released, but it still doesn't happen.  You should know G that Saint John has homosexual tendencies, and he has wanted to burn me ) hottest due to his own internalized hate.   E What am I supposed to do?  The Virgin Mary was damned to hell forever E for telling 30 people that Jehovah was evil for hurting her for years G for being addicted to popy and selling drugs.  It is actually true that @ the Virgin Mary was damned!  You should pray for her if you can.  E Every day I wake up, heaven and hell are still with me, forcing me to B live in a state called "h-e-a-l-l" for my crimes.  I have tried toB work, but Jehovah has demons hurt the people around me at work andG "outs" me to my bosses, making it impossible for me to hold down a job. D  So I am forced to live without working, even though heaven aids and> abets millions of illegal aliens working in the United States.  G You should know that hell has told me that there are terrorists working A at LAX that plan to hit tall buildings, this time in Los Angeles, C within 5 years.  They have shoe bombs that are hard for security to D detect, and know that at certain airports, like John Wayne in OC, do< not scan for shoe bombs.  Satan is happy that they are still5 uncaught--they are working in baggage sorting at LAX.   E I should also point out that every part of the new testament has been G voided in my case.  The Holy Ghost wanted me to be released at my first G and second exorcisms, but Jehovah is still stuck on hurting me forever. D  I am speaking out to you as my last desperate attempt to break free from the demons.  F You should know that Jehovah is definitely still interested in killingF the gays.  Only his son Jesus restrains him!  Jehovah's anger gets theB best of him, and he has hurt USC very badly, allowing people to beE hanged by demons.  Irvine has also been hurt badly.  Now Riverside is  being hurt.   ? I am completely certain that I am demon possessed.  The soul is F normally on the left side of the body, but due to God's anger, my soulC is on the right side of my body.  I tried to suicide to escape from D this living nightmare, by drinking rubbing alcohol, but evil JehovahA has declared that I should be hung instead, as an ancient sign of  guilt.  B If you are demon possessed, I encourage you to come forward on theF internet.  Ellen Degeneres has also been hurt badly by the demons, but nobody believes her either.   E Jehovah wants to say that it is meant for people to be loving of god. G Unfortunately for me, he continues to test me in dreams, tempting me to C do sodomy, in order to continue his justification of hurting me.  I A should mention that Jehovah has determined that I am not a gifted E individual or insane, and thus I am sentenced to burn hot in the lake  of fire.F I have tried reading the Bible completely, and it speaks of people whoF should not be prayed for, which I am apparently one.   Over 800 peopleG from Los Angeles have been sent to try to kill me--additionally, I have E been killed by demons almost 70,000 times.  70,000 times means that I  would be the antichrist.  ? So there are apparently 70 years left on earth.  Bad things are E supposed to happen in 2013.  There is supposed to be a nuclear attack C from a Pakistani nuclear weapon, in Crawford, TX.  God may move the D site of attack to some more populated place like Boston, in order toD save people there that are killed.  You should know that angels haveD been assigned to Bush to make him sound more intelligent, but God is0 very angry with me for telling you these things.  C Please tell other people that God hates homosexuals.  Before, I was E contributing to the community.  As Jesus' urging, I gave thousands of G dollars to charity and tried to help people little bits, but it was not G enough, given that I am "not gifted."  A disk was sent to Satan telling @ Satan that I would burn in the lake of fire.  Thus Jehovah againG violated his own rules by revealing my fate; yet Satan continues to try  to kill me and my family.   = The moral of my story is don't ever go to church if you are a E homosexual because God will make an example of you by hurting you and F your entire family and friends, all the way back to elementary school.E God looked into the future of my life at age 10 and hated me.  If God G hates a 10 year old, you can be pretty sure if you are sinning that God A hates your guts.  Making a pariah out of someone is something God G should have learned to do after Jesus was born, but he spends about 2/3 C of his time finding fault and hurting people.  You should know that C Jehovah is very angry with America, and that the tsunami was caused G partly because of Jehovah's great anger with me.  Jehovah has said that G he will never love me until the end of the Universe, which he claims to E be able to see--yet he is afraid to travel within the universe and is D not well versed in physics or electronics.  The Virgin Mary spoke toG me, Jehovah making her sound evil, and has said that my life will teach E Jehovah "not to do this again."  Jehovah is very stubborn and learns, * seemingly only, by hurting people greatly.  F Please contact me via e-mail if you have any questions about my story.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 19:27:19 -0800 From: Starbles@Earthlink.netG Subject: Re: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely B Message-ID: <1143775639.429733.87310@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   I have a question.  D What was in that story about psychological warfare? I believe it was used against me...   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:10:28 -0500 2 From: "Timothy Stark" <fsword7_nospam@comcast.net> Subject: KDM70 specs? 0 Message-ID: <-eCdndqCbMUTErHZRVn-rA@comcast.com>   Hello folks,  K I was looking for some I/O disk programming with KDM70 disk controller for  K XMI interface for other operating systems like NetBSD, etc. but can't find  K any information on Manx archives, etc.  Does anyone have a copy or is that   proprietary hardware?    Thanks!  Tim    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:15:50 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> " Subject: Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem) Message-ID: <op.s689woo1zgicya@hyrrokkin>   L On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:02:18 -0800, Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>   wrote:   > G >    As others have said TTA0 has for a long time been tied to what was D > labled as COM2 on many of the Alpha boxes.  The COM1 port could beE > either OPA0 or TTB0 depending how the system was booted.  If it was * > set to graphic then TTB0 otherwise TTA0. > G >     That has been covered many times, and is the rule for most of the B > Alpha systems for a long time.  Sorry, I do not remember when we3 > made the change.  There are as always exceptions.  > A >     Please do a show device/full OPA0.  It is possible that the  > reference G > count for the device is not 0.  That will keep you from being able to  > log = > in.  Also if possible do the following and post the output:  >  >    $ ana/system  >     sda> read sysdef >     sda> show device opa0  >     sda> format UCB  >  > 	 > Forrest    NORNS> sho dev/full opa0  I Terminal OPA0:, device type unknown, is online, record-oriented device,    carriage
      control.   M      Error count                    0    Operations completed                  2202I      Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                         [SYSTEM]@      Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot                S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G,W 9      Reference count                0    Default buffer    size                  80   NORNS> ana/system   " OpenVMS (TM) Alpha system analyzer   SDA> read sysdefH %SDA-I-READSYM, 10626 symbols read from SYS$COMMON:[SYS$LDR]SYSDEF.STB;1 SDA> sho device opa0I OPA0                                           Unknown             UCB:    81046230    Device status:   00000010 online1 Characteristics: 0C040007 rec,ccl,trm,avl,idv,odv                    00000200 nnm SUD Status       00000000   I Owner UIC [000001,000004]   Operation count       2202   ORB address       810461B0J        PID        00000000   Error count              0   DDB address      81046080I Class/Type          42/00   Reference count          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UCB$B_TT_A_XEDSTS                   008 FFFFFFFF.810463F6   UCB$W_TT_A_RESRV1               0000< FFFFFFFF.810463F8   UCB$B_TT_A_CHAR                       00'                      UCB$L_TT_A_DECHSET : FFFFFFFF.810463F9                                   000000< FFFFFFFF.810463FC   UCB$L_TP_MAP                    00000000< FFFFFFFF.81046400   UCB$B_TP_STAT                         00: FFFFFFFF.81046401   UCB$B_TP_SPARE1                     008 FFFFFFFF.81046402   UCB$W_TP_SPARE2                 0000$                      UCB$C_TP_LENGTH  $                      UCB$C_TT_LENGTH   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:14:53 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>" Subject: Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem+ Message-ID: <hV2Xf.15275$VL2.6550@trnddc04>    William Webb wrote: 0 > On 3/29/06, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote: > F >>Using a DB9 null modem cable I can connect from a PC using HypertermH >>to either TTA0 or OPA0 on an XP1000, but only TTA0 on a DS10L.  I haveG >>confirmed that the settings for OPA0 are identical for the two.  If I : >>loop the cable on the DS10L from TTA0 to OPA0 I can both >>* >>SET HOST/DTE OPA0  and SET HOST/DTE TTA0 >> >>Any ideas? >> > = > The DS10L has two DB9 serial ports which are TTA0 and TTB0.  > 0 > You use TTA0 as the console port on the DS10L. > 4 > I, too, don't understand what you're trying to do. >  > WWWebb >  > --E > NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  > correspondence. E > All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for : > services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at% > http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/   A Unlike everyone else, I think I *do* understand what Tom is doing  (or trying to do.) :-)    C As I understand it, you take the same DB9 loopback cable that works ? between the PC and both ports of the XP1000 and that also works > between the PC and the TTA0: on the DS10L.  This setup doesn't= work when you take the same cable and connect the PC to OPA0: = on the DS10L.  However (here's the kicker!), if you take that > very same cable, and connect it between OPA0: and TTA0: on the DS10L, then you can:  B 1) log in from somewhere else (DECnet, telnet, decterm session, VT! terminal on a terminal server...)    2) SET HOST/DTE TTA0:   
 3) hit return   9 4) See a USERNAME: prompt (from OPA0:), log in, etc. etc.    5) logout from OPA0:  > 6) ctrl-\ to get back to DCL on you original terminal session.  6 and ****  you can do the exact same thing in the other direction, i.e.    2) SET HOST/DTE OPA0:   
 3) hit return     4) See USERNAME: from TTA0:, ...  0 i.e., use the null modem in the other direction.  D This, if I understand correctly, means the cable is good, both portsD are set the same way, same speed, flow control, stop bits, etc. etc.  F So the bottom line is "What's wrong".  Short answer, "no idea" :-( :-(    C Actually, I think there must be something wrong with one or more of F the modem signals, DTR, DSR, etc. which is getting generated correctlyG by the TTA0: port, but not by the PC.  Whatever the signal is, for some F reason VMS (or the hardware) cares about it on OPA0: of the DS10L, butD not on any of the other ports on the (DS10L TTA0:, both ports on the XP1000.)  E To properly diagnose something like this, you need a breakout box, or F at least some way of testing and strapping the individual lines of theF DB9 null-modem cable.  (I have a couple of DB25 breakout boxes, but noG DB9 one.  On the few occasions where I've had to debug DB9 connections, G I've been able to use DB9-DB25 adapters and not introduce more problems F than I've solved.)  Maybe this will ring a bell (har har) and some oneH will remember something like "The console port goes nuts with a floating0 RI (ring) signal.  Make sure pin X is grounded."  D This gets complicated, because any given signal may be high, low, orC floating (not driven by anything) and any of these conditions could C cause problems.  The solution might be to strap a signal high, low, D or to another signal, either from the same end or looped around fromF the other end.  Since there are 9 pins on a DB9, this gets complicated1 fast!  (But TD, RD and ground are probably fine.)   ! Maybe Black Box still sells BOBs?    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 10:59:52 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS B Message-ID: <1143745192.890839.51870@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   >People don't buy Windows,  G Actually - they do.  Most business request Windows to be shipped on the D box, since that's what will run their existing applications.  That'sC what they can deal with, since often, they do not even have an "IT" G deptartment at all.  I seen RFP's, and they require Windows.  Not Unix, E not OS X, not OpenVMS.  I've even tried to sell Linux sometimes, even D though it would work exactly identical to the Windows box (actually,G faster), and they still said no.  Few understand that the market is not @ just a "Field of Dreams", where if you build it, they will come.F OpenVMS is not the solution by itself. People here, with their love of# OpenVMS, seem to miss this somehow.   E You have to have a solution.  You have to sell the solution.  OpenVMS D is incidental, and irrelevant, if you can't present a solution.  AndF since OpenVMS doesn't have a WIN32 API, nor can it run ELF binaries, a/ 8086 port of OpenVMS alone doesn't make a sale.   B Take a web hosting business.  They probably run Windows and Linux.D Show then OpenVMS.  They don't care.  Show them OpenVMS with Apache,B PHP, and MySQL, and you can at least hold their attention.  You'veC provided them a solution that meets their needs.  Then you can show G them clustering, security and disaster tolerance, and demonstrate value  added.  G What people here don't realize, is that sometimes it isn't Windows that C sells Windows.  It's MS Office that sells Windows.  It's SQL Server D that sells Windows.  It's Exchange that sells Windows.  And it's not just MS apps, either.   D You get OpenOffice on OpenVMS, PostgreSQL on OpenVMS, Thunderbird onG OpenVMS, and take advantage of Samba on OpenVMS, and you can compete on > function - security is the bonus.  But if you can't compete onD function, you can't make the sale.  Gnome or KDE on OpenVMS would beD cool, since it's a usable, familiar enough, and provides a good tool set.  D You want a Desktop VMS system?  Help out with the OpenOffice port toG OpenVMS.  They could use the help.  Get Thunderbird working on OpenVMS. D  Don't just whine about what you think HP should do - be part of theE solution.  Pick a tool, library, application, no matter how small and 
 make it work.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:39:00 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS 9 Message-ID: <BaOdncLSloLerrHZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@libcom.com>    GreyCloud wrote: > Dave Froble wrote: >  >> GreyCloud wrote:  >> >>> Dr. Dweeb wrote: >>> K >>>> History has shown that attempting to market/sell *anything* against an E >>>> M$ product is incompatible with a business relationship with M$.  >>>>K >>>> There is nothing in M$ business practices since the monpoly conviction 4 >>>> that suggests that it is any more viable today. >>>>H >>>> It's not about size of the goulies, but the desire to retain them ! >>>> >>> I >>> That is the biggest obstacle today in competition with M$.  The only  I >>> leverage is the reputation of OpenVMS security and the insecurity of  H >>> M$ windows.  Constant repitition of pointing this out to the public C >>> could sway the pendulum.  And that will take a hefty marketing   >>> campaign budget. >>>  >>J >> As long as HP has a rather large business of selling windoz PCs, there H >> is no way they will allow a small part of the company publicly trash ' >> their products.  Ain't gonna happen.  >> > I > I was thinking more along the lines of repeating the point that VMS is  E > not hackable and is secure.  Sometimes the public has a very short  6 > memory.  You see this tactic in TV ads all the time. > K > If M$ can't put out Vista next year or possibly never, then HP will have  B > a dwindling product line.  What they do then is anybodies guess. >  >   @ Security is not an advantage unless consumers see the competing E offerings as not having security, that security is a good thing, and  I that they're willing to value security higher than other things, such as   playing games.  B To push the security button, effectively, you'd have to point out C defincincies (can't spell, and spell checker was no help) in other   competing products.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2006 16:34:28 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS 3 Message-ID: <KPyFRhoPkeZp@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <49271uFlglfvU2@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: >   E > Ummmm.....   Not really.  The same method used on OSX in the recent H > attacks (getting someone to willingly type the administrator password)I > would work equally well on VMS if VMS users were actually stupid enough  > to do it!!  C    While VMS is not immune to social engineering attacks, I'm quite >    sure none of my VMS users knows the administrator password.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:01:11 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> G Subject: OT - Night of the living MBAs (was:Re: Intel to sell itanium?) * Message-ID: <442C6337.2050807@comcast.net>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:W > In article <e016d3$5an$1@naig.caltech.edu>, David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> writes:  > ! >>shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote:  >>6 >>>What I'm surprised at is how few heads have rolled. >>B >>Are you kidding?  Thousands and thousands have been fired.  Just1 >>not those suits who made all the bad decisions.  >>? > That is one thing I always wondered about.  How can I adjust  > > _my_ career path such that I can be totally incompetent and A > get paid millions?  Where is the CEO school, and how do I sign  > > up?  I'd need a full lobotomy, because in my current state I= > insist on quality and accountability, but hopefully it'd be ( > covered by the platinum level medical.  < Harvard Business School is the place, MBA is the degree.	:-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:18:59 -0500 # From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> 0 Subject: OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question: Message-ID: <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDOEDIHGAA.dallen@nist.gov>  P I know this is a VMS group but there's a couple lurker's here that I'm sure haveP some reliable experience and/or knowledge on this matter. I promise I won't takeK more than a small amount of time away from the normal HP bashing bandwidth.   M A co-worker of mine just came in and asked what performance problems might he P likely encounter if he maintained a set of roughly 100,000 files on a Linux box?P How many files/directory, what FS, etc for reasonable create/lookup performance.P He's a DB guy and since the files are all smallish he was considering using a DBM table over the FS. Lookups WAY less frequent than creates. I have not a clue.    TIA,   Dan    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:21:57 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>4 Subject: Re: OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question= Message-ID: <FOmdnRKW8eqax7HZRVn-iA@metrocastcablevision.com>    Dan Allen wrote:R > I know this is a VMS group but there's a couple lurker's here that I'm sure haveR > some reliable experience and/or knowledge on this matter. I promise I won't takeM > more than a small amount of time away from the normal HP bashing bandwidth.  > O > A co-worker of mine just came in and asked what performance problems might he R > likely encounter if he maintained a set of roughly 100,000 files on a Linux box?R > How many files/directory, what FS, etc for reasonable create/lookup performance.R > He's a DB guy and since the files are all smallish he was considering using a DBO > table over the FS. Lookups WAY less frequent than creates. I have not a clue.   C If he wanted to maintain all 100K files in the same directory, XFS  C (SGI's contribution to Linux file systems) might be the best bet -  F though ReiserFS also uses tree-structured directories and I think JFS G (IBM's contribution to Linux file systems) does as well.  If the files  @ are quite small, that's one of ReiserFS's claims to performance I superiority (especially, IIRC, for creates).  All three of these options  E are journaled (avoiding the need for fsck on unclean restart), as is  H ext3fs (a journaled extension to the base ext2fs Linux file system, but H without the tree-structured directories and extent-based mapping of the E others - though with sufficiently small files and less than, say, 1K  1 files per directory this may not be significant).   I By and large, 100K smallish files is not usually a significant workload.  B   Virtually any Linux configuration should be able to handle them  reasonably.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:06:13 -0600 ' From: "Earl Lakia" <elakia@hotmail.com>  Subject: Re: RMS With C++ 0 Message-ID: <wPadndeYhPuhp7HZRVn-tA@comcast.com>  B I have some standard C routines I use to do RMS File I/O.  You can8 go to ftp.ipact.com  (anonymous) and get  the following:   keyedfileaccess.c   ; These are for keyed record I/O and the like (Supports keyed  read/write and also by RFA.)  ? Normal sequential I/O is already part of the C/C++ environment.    -earl   8 "Dillon Amburgey" <dillona@dillona.com> wrote in message< news:1143355890.390104.72850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello everyone, F > I am a OpenVMS newbie, and I like the OS very much. I have a limitedH > knowledge of BASIC, so I would like to be able to write programs usingI > RMS with C++. The problem is that I cannot seem to find any information I > about this on Google, and I am not actually sure that this is possible.   > Could anyone offer any advice? > Thank you, > Dillon Amburgey  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:50:55 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>  Subject: Re: RMS With C++ 9 Message-ID: <hO0Xf.2821$m35.208754@news20.bellglobal.com>   2 "Earl Lakia" <elakia@hotmail.com> wrote in message* news:wPadndeYhPuhp7HZRVn-tA@comcast.com...C >I have some standard C routines I use to do RMS File I/O.  You can : > go to ftp.ipact.com  (anonymous) and get  the following: >  > keyedfileaccess.c  > = > These are for keyed record I/O and the like (Supports keyed  > read/write and also by RFA.) > A > Normal sequential I/O is already part of the C/C++ environment.  >  > -earl  > + Where do we download "bf_include:bflib.h" ?   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Mar 2006 23:18:01 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)P Subject: Re: The Minimum You Need to Know to Be an OpenVMS Application Developer+ Message-ID: <493798Fmu3caU1@individual.net>   3 In article <UhRr5DUeLboX@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 7 	kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) writes: d > In article <OqJUf.200$C85.12@dukeread10>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes: >> Christopher Browne wrote:D >>> I have a hard time fathoming how MySQL would be of interest on aF >>> platform that has a full-fledged ISAM system, RMS, *built into theE >>> operating system*, but I suppose there are all types out there...  >>   >> ????  >>  < >> Query language, fast remote access, security system etc.. >>  ; >> There are reasons RDB and Oracle (classic) has been used  >> on VMS for many years.  >>  5 >> Now there are an open source database alternative.  >>   >> Arne  >>   > 1 > I second what Arne said, with slight additions.  > ? > I wrote a number of session tracking, customer tracking, etc, @ > etc, things using RMS index files for an Apache server running > VMS, and they worked fine, >  > BUT... > C > When I wanted to add some features and nifties that I saw on some C > other sites, the only freeware I could find on the net to do this B > was using some variant of php and mySQL.  Sure, I could write my< > own and reinvent the wheel, but I'd rather be lazy and use > someone elses wheel. > @ > I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords, php and mySQL (on5 > VMS of course)!  Three cheers for the VAMP project!   F Well, if it is anything like PHP under unix, VMS may soon have another first.     bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 04:30:48 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)Y Subject: Will illegal immigrants get deported?.........Of course not..................... + Message-ID: <73583833006@free.teranews.com>   + Our politicians just wanted to blow us some * sunshine. Get the details from The Expert:   http://www.ExpertHumor.com/               . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.178 ************************