1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 31 Mar 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 179       Contents:, Re: <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%>( <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%>7 <><><><><><><>The Net's #1 Joke e-Book!<><><><><><><><> = >@>@>@>@>GET MORE CHICKS............LEARN GUITAR............. " Addendum Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem5 Re: ANN: HGFTP V3.1-3 (corrects OpenVMS V8.x problem) $ Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout$ Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout$ Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout DS10 Hang on boot  Re: DS10 Hang on boot  Re: DS10 Hang on boot  Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium? Re: Intel to sell itanium?> Re: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely1 LoadModule Mod_jk error - Tomcat with Apache CSWS ' Looking for BINARY kit of OmniORB 4.0.7  Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem . Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS. Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS. Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS. Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS+ Re: OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question  Question OS's. - Alpha Servers" Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers" Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers" Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers4 Re: SAP small business solutions now run on OpenVMS!  Re: VMS Admin Position Available# Re: xp1000 boot flags and vms 7.2-1   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:39:50 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>5 Subject: Re: <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%> , Message-ID: <442d2317$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  J I will patiently wait 7 days to see if he can come up with something funny to say.     ; "Expert Humor" <TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com> wrote in message & news:789696533006@free.teranews.com...4 > You too can learn to be funny in just 7 days flat: > - > http://www.ExpertHumor.com/HowToBeFunny.htm  >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > 0 > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***> > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***    ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 15:06:14 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)1 Subject: <%><%><%><%>HOW TO BE FUNNY!<%><%><%><%> , Message-ID: <253038433106@free.teranews.com>  2 You too can learn to be funny in just 7 days flat:  + http://www.ExpertHumor.com/HowToBeFunny.htm                 . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 14:18:45 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)@ Subject: <><><><><><><>The Net's #1 Joke e-Book!<><><><><><><><>, Message-ID: <224607233106@free.teranews.com>  3 That's Comedy - Over 460 Pages of Little Snickers,  2 Medium-Sized Chuckles, and Great Big Belly Laughs:  + http://www.ExpertHumor.com/That'sComedy.htm           . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2006 14:42:32 GMT. From: TheExpert@ExpertHumor.com (Expert Humor)F Subject: >@>@>@>@>GET MORE CHICKS............LEARN GUITAR............., Message-ID: <238877433106@free.teranews.com>   Chicks dig guitar players. So get more chicks!  Learn how to play guitar!   * http://www.ExpertHumor.com/LearnGuitar.htm                        . *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com ***X *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:52:15 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> + Subject: Addendum Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem ) Message-ID: <op.s7abpdttzgicya@hyrrokkin>   F On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:24:07 -0800, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  G > On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:14:53 -0800, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote:  >  >> William Webb wrote:2 >>> On 3/29/06, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote: >>> I >>>> Using a DB9 null modem cable I can connect from a PC using Hyperterm K >>>> to either TTA0 or OPA0 on an XP1000, but only TTA0 on a DS10L.  I have J >>>> confirmed that the settings for OPA0 are identical for the two.  If I= >>>> loop the cable on the DS10L from TTA0 to OPA0 I can both  >>>>- >>>> SET HOST/DTE OPA0  and SET HOST/DTE TTA0  >>>> >>>> Any ideas?  >>>>@ >>>  The DS10L has two DB9 serial ports which are TTA0 and TTB0.3 >>>  You use TTA0 as the console port on the DS10L. 7 >>>  I, too, don't understand what you're trying to do.  >>>  WWWebb  >>>  -- G >>> NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related  >>> correspondence. G >>> All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for < >>> services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at' >>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/  >>D >> Unlike everyone else, I think I *do* understand what Tom is doing >> (or trying to do.) :-)  >> >>F >> As I understand it, you take the same DB9 loopback cable that worksB >> between the PC and both ports of the XP1000 and that also worksA >> between the PC and the TTA0: on the DS10L.  This setup doesn't @ >> work when you take the same cable and connect the PC to OPA0:@ >> on the DS10L.  However (here's the kicker!), if you take thatA >> very same cable, and connect it between OPA0: and TTA0: on the  >> DS10L, then you can:  >>E >> 1) log in from somewhere else (DECnet, telnet, decterm session, VT $ >> terminal on a terminal server...) >> >> 2) SET HOST/DTE TTA0: >> >> 3) hit return >>< >> 4) See a USERNAME: prompt (from OPA0:), log in, etc. etc. >> >> 5) logout from OPA0:  >>A >> 6) ctrl-\ to get back to DCL on you original terminal session.  >>9 >> and ****  you can do the exact same thing in the other  >> direction, i.e. >> >> 2) SET HOST/DTE OPA0: >> >> 3) hit return >># >> 4) See USERNAME: from TTA0:, ...  >>3 >> i.e., use the null modem in the other direction.  >>G >> This, if I understand correctly, means the cable is good, both ports G >> are set the same way, same speed, flow control, stop bits, etc. etc.  >>I >> So the bottom line is "What's wrong".  Short answer, "no idea" :-( :-(  >> >>F >> Actually, I think there must be something wrong with one or more ofI >> the modem signals, DTR, DSR, etc. which is getting generated correctly J >> by the TTA0: port, but not by the PC.  Whatever the signal is, for someI >> reason VMS (or the hardware) cares about it on OPA0: of the DS10L, but G >> not on any of the other ports on the (DS10L TTA0:, both ports on the  >> XP1000.)  >>H >> To properly diagnose something like this, you need a breakout box, orI >> at least some way of testing and strapping the individual lines of the I >> DB9 null-modem cable.  (I have a couple of DB25 breakout boxes, but no J >> DB9 one.  On the few occasions where I've had to debug DB9 connections,J >> I've been able to use DB9-DB25 adapters and not introduce more problemsI >> than I've solved.)  Maybe this will ring a bell (har har) and some one K >> will remember something like "The console port goes nuts with a floating 3 >> RI (ring) signal.  Make sure pin X is grounded."  > H > Now the same cable from the PC to an XP1000 OPA0 works fine, also fromC > XP1000/TTA0 to DS10L/OPA0 works  so likely the PC is generating a G > signal that bothers the DS10L on OPA0 but not TTA0, nor the XP1000 on A > either port.  Now since the RI signal is the only not wired for J > a NULL modem, it could well be complicit.  I could try making up a cableJ > leaving pin 9 unconnected.  If this were any PC one might suspect signalI > levels, but this is a Dell Poweredge server.  Also that fact the port    > works J > with OPA0 on Pelicans, Miatas and XP1000 makes me also suspect something= > in the DS10L OPA0 isn't as it should be.  Maybe Fred knows?   K I was mistaken, RI is not connected on cable.  Also I tried connecting from H XP1000/OPA0 to DS10L/OPA0 and that also didn't work.  So it appears thatG something is amiss with DS10L/OPA0.  I can connect to it from TTA0 port 4 an any other machine; however, it doesn't look clean   ODIN> set host/dte tta0   % %REM-I-TOQUIT, connection established   - Press Ctrl/\ to quit, Ctrl/@ for command mode       $ %REM-E-PORTRXERR, port receive error" -SYSTEM-W-DATAOVERUN, data overrun  	 :assword:   Too many parameters - reenter co Pd:  User authorization failure  	 Username:    >  >>G >> This gets complicated, because any given signal may be high, low, or F >> floating (not driven by anything) and any of these conditions couldF >> cause problems.  The solution might be to strap a signal high, low,G >> or to another signal, either from the same end or looped around from I >> the other end.  Since there are 9 pins on a DB9, this gets complicated 4 >> fast!  (But TD, RD and ground are probably fine.) >>$ >> Maybe Black Box still sells BOBs? >> >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:57:48 -0600 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> > Subject: Re: ANN: HGFTP V3.1-3 (corrects OpenVMS V8.x problem)* Message-ID: <442D5F8C.6010602@goatley.com>   Hunter Goatley wrote:  > E > HGFTP V3.1-1 is now available for download.  HGFTP is an FTP client G > and server for OpenVMS VAX, OpenVMS Alpha, and OpenVMS IA64.  It runs G > with MultiNet (VAX and Alpha), TCPware (VAX and Alpha), CMU-IP (VAX), 0 > and HP TCP/IP Services (VAX, Alpha, and IA64).  @ HGFTP works with MultiNet and TCPware on OpenVMS IA64, too.  TheC text above was taken from a previous announcement that predated our 2 support for IA64.  Just wanted to clarify that....   --     Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ B PreciseMail Anti-Spam Gateway for OpenVMS, Tru64, Solaris, & Linux9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:54:13 -0500  From: "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com>- Subject: Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout , Message-ID: <442d1866$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Try a DISMOUNT/ABORT against it   3 "Dan O'Reilly" <dano@process.com> wrote in message  ; news:6.1.2.0.2.20060330111502.02308bf8@raptor.psccos.com... D >I have the following device status displaying on one of my systems: > K > VOODOO$DKA100:          MntVerifyTimeout     0  VMSBUILD       9558080 2   > 1 " >                         dismount > 6 > Any way of clearing this without rebooting the node? >  > ------L > +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+L > | Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |L > | Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |L > | Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |L > | http://www.process.com        |                                        |L > +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 06:40:22 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) - Subject: Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout 3 Message-ID: <ImNJn736CZ6H@eisner.encompasserve.org>   K In article <442d1866$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com> writes:   5 > "Dan O'Reilly" <dano@process.com> wrote in message  = > news:6.1.2.0.2.20060330111502.02308bf8@raptor.psccos.com... E >>I have the following device status displaying on one of my systems:  >>L >> VOODOO$DKA100:          MntVerifyTimeout     0  VMSBUILD       9558080 2  >> 1# >>                         dismount  >>7 >> Any way of clearing this without rebooting the node?   ! > Try a DISMOUNT/ABORT against it   D Trying will not hurt, but in my experience when the cause is an open0 file, DISMOUNT/ABORT does not solve the problem.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:47:15 -0700 % From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> - Subject: Re: Device stuck in MntVerifyTimeout A Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060331064547.026c2f58@raptor.psccos.com>   F That won't work, in my experience, because this is an installed image J that's open.  I can VERY occasionally clear it by doing an INSTALL REMOVE 7 against the file, but that nearly always fails as well.   # At 04:54 AM 3/31/2006, Jilly wrote:   >Try a DISMOUNT/ABORT against it > 3 >"Dan O'Reilly" <dano@process.com> wrote in message < >news:6.1.2.0.2.20060330111502.02308bf8@raptor.psccos.com...F > >I have the following device status displaying on one of my systems: > > L > > VOODOO$DKA100:          MntVerifyTimeout     0  VMSBUILD       9558080 2 > > 1 $ > >                         dismount > > 8 > > Any way of clearing this without rebooting the node?   ------J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+J | Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |J | Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |J | Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |J | http://www.process.com        |                                        |J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 01:34:09 -0800 From: stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au  Subject: DS10 Hang on bootC Message-ID: <1143797649.268876.139140@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   	 Hi Group,   F Upgrade the firmware on my hobbyist DS10 (thanks for the pointers) andB successfully installed OpenVMS 8.2 and the patches from the HP web site.   F I have an issue that when I reboot the system from inside the OS usingA reboot or shutdown with auto-reboot that the machine hangs on the ) restart just after the following message.     5     OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.2 E     =A9 Copyright 1976-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.     E %PKA0, Copyright (c) 1998 IntraServer Technology Inc. PKW V2.1.22 ROM  V2.0> %PKA0, SCSI Chip is SYM53C875, Operating mode is SE Ultra SCSI  0 The systems hangs prior to this console message.  B %STDRV-I-STARTUP, OpenVMS startup begun at 31-MAR-2006 03:41:57.77  / However if I repower the machine it works fine.   B Any ideas on what is wrong here?  What is the system doing between
 these stages.   A I have boot_reset ON in SRM console.  BTW how can I clear the SRM F console back to default as the system previously was a Tur64 box and I% got caught with the OS_FLAGS setting.    Thanks   Stuart   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:35:39 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> Subject: Re: DS10 Hang on boot* Message-ID: <442d221c@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  H Try setting the SRM variable BOOT_RESET to TRUE (or ON or whatever it is supposed to be).  , <stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message= news:1143797649.268876.139140@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 	 Hi Group,   F Upgrade the firmware on my hobbyist DS10 (thanks for the pointers) andB successfully installed OpenVMS 8.2 and the patches from the HP web site.   F I have an issue that when I reboot the system from inside the OS usingA reboot or shutdown with auto-reboot that the machine hangs on the ) restart just after the following message.     5     OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.2 C      Copyright 1976-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.     E %PKA0, Copyright (c) 1998 IntraServer Technology Inc. PKW V2.1.22 ROM  V2.0> %PKA0, SCSI Chip is SYM53C875, Operating mode is SE Ultra SCSI  0 The systems hangs prior to this console message.  B %STDRV-I-STARTUP, OpenVMS startup begun at 31-MAR-2006 03:41:57.77  / However if I repower the machine it works fine.   B Any ideas on what is wrong here?  What is the system doing between
 these stages.   A I have boot_reset ON in SRM console.  BTW how can I clear the SRM F console back to default as the system previously was a Tur64 box and I% got caught with the OS_FLAGS setting.    Thanks   Stuart   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:12:48 -0500 C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com>  Subject: Re: DS10 Hang on boot6 Message-ID: <aKaXf.2000$z7.502@bignews3.bellsouth.net>   THe 53C875 chipset controller   & What is the COMPAQ part number on that  L We had some problems with generic cards loading VMS (worked fine with Tru64)J but there is a checksum that the system does to make sure it is a real DEC card.   8 Oh, and do this at the console to make it a REAL VMS Box   >>>set os_type OpenVMS >>>set boot_osflags 0,0   ) Oh, and next time, buy one from us !  ;0)      --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html   5 "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com> wrote in message $ news:442d221c@usenet01.boi.hp.com...J > Try setting the SRM variable BOOT_RESET to TRUE (or ON or whatever it is > supposed to be). > . > <stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message? > news:1143797649.268876.139140@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  > Hi Group,  > H > Upgrade the firmware on my hobbyist DS10 (thanks for the pointers) andD > successfully installed OpenVMS 8.2 and the patches from the HP web > site.  > H > I have an issue that when I reboot the system from inside the OS usingC > reboot or shutdown with auto-reboot that the machine hangs on the + > restart just after the following message.  >  > 7 >     OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V8.2 E >      Copyright 1976-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.  >  > G > %PKA0, Copyright (c) 1998 IntraServer Technology Inc. PKW V2.1.22 ROM  > V2.0@ > %PKA0, SCSI Chip is SYM53C875, Operating mode is SE Ultra SCSI > 2 > The systems hangs prior to this console message. > D > %STDRV-I-STARTUP, OpenVMS startup begun at 31-MAR-2006 03:41:57.77 > 1 > However if I repower the machine it works fine.  > D > Any ideas on what is wrong here?  What is the system doing between > these stages.  > C > I have boot_reset ON in SRM console.  BTW how can I clear the SRM H > console back to default as the system previously was a Tur64 box and I' > got caught with the OS_FLAGS setting.  >  > Thanks >  > Stuart >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:31:29 +0200 + From: Karsten Nyblad <nospam@nospam.nospam> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? = Message-ID: <442cf6f1$0$60786$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk>   
 Andrew wrote: H > A good example of this is Power6 which will rely in very bleeding edgeI > FAB/process to push the clock speed envelope as far as possible. It may F > appear in the same timeframe as N2 but assuming that it delivers theF > perfomance improvments predicted for it and N2 does the same it willC > struggle in the 1-8 way server market when compared with N2 based + > servers for TLP/PLP INT and FP workloads.   H Andrew, you are not employed by Sun any more.  You do not have to stick E to the company line any more.  Yes, Sun's new processor is cool, but  H only so many job loads are suitable for being spread on 32 concurrently F executing threads.  It you use Sun's new processor, you might need 10 D times as many threads ready to execute as you do on a Power6.  That H means that your must be capable of writing applications that scale.  It G is difficult to write applications which concurrently work on many sub  E problems.  It is even more difficult to write a program such that it  H scales to working on hundreds of sub problems.  Please note that Sun is H still selling computers based on big, fast cores, and I doubt Sun could  do without these products.  H The difficulties of getting software to scale will make people continue F want fast single cores in the future.  I could easily imagine a world : were you can get microprocessors with many slow cores and $ microprocessors with few fast cores.   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 05:30:57 -0800- From: "Andrew" <andrew_harrison@symantec.com> # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? C Message-ID: <1143811857.273853.189100@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>    Karsten Nyblad wrote:  > Andrew wrote: J > > A good example of this is Power6 which will rely in very bleeding edgeK > > FAB/process to push the clock speed envelope as far as possible. It may H > > appear in the same timeframe as N2 but assuming that it delivers theH > > perfomance improvments predicted for it and N2 does the same it willE > > struggle in the 1-8 way server market when compared with N2 based - > > servers for TLP/PLP INT and FP workloads.  > I > Andrew, you are not employed by Sun any more.  You do not have to stick F > to the company line any more.  Yes, Sun's new processor is cool, butI > only so many job loads are suitable for being spread on 32 concurrently G > executing threads.  It you use Sun's new processor, you might need 10 E > times as many threads ready to execute as you do on a Power6.  That I > means that your must be capable of writing applications that scale.  It H > is difficult to write applications which concurrently work on many subF > problems.  It is even more difficult to write a program such that itI > scales to working on hundreds of sub problems.  Please note that Sun is I > still selling computers based on big, fast cores, and I doubt Sun could  > do without these products. >   G Java/J2EE, Web Servers, File Servers, Ftp Servers, Firewalls DBMS's are @ all generally inhererntly Thread Level or Process Level parallelG workloads. This accounts for a very substantial % of the workloads that G servers are expected to accomodate. In the case of a web based app or a D DBMS you are not writing an application that is inherantly threaded,D you don't need to because the framework you are using to deploy your Java/J2EE/SQL does it for you.  G There are obviously applciations that do not fit and in particular many F desktop apps require fast single threaded performance, but Sun did notG design the T1 for the desktop any more than Itanium is designed for the  desktop.   Regards  Andrew Harrison I > The difficulties of getting software to scale will make people continue G > want fast single cores in the future.  I could easily imagine a world ; > were you can get microprocessors with many slow cores and & > microprocessors with few fast cores.   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 07:34:04 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <ZYp4ul6CsCtu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <442C63B7.49F990A6@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote:E >>    Just think where Billy would be if IBM had never given him that I >>    contract for MS-DOS.  It wasn't his talent for programming that got  >>    him where he is. > H > Actually, it goes one step further: it was Bill Gate's daddy that gave" > his son the connection with IBM.  G    Historically wealth never tends to last more than three generations. A    Did Gate's papa have enough wealth that we can plan on his kid F    squandering it all, or do we get to see Bill Gates III burn through    it?   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 07:35:09 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) # Subject: Re: Intel to sell itanium? 3 Message-ID: <4MypdcErnHoi@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <442C7515.A86F6E75@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:   > But  > the path was set by the CEOs.   E   Duh.  Anybody want to suggest this as a strip for "Mr. Obviousman".    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:46:11 +0100 + From: "T Wake" <Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> G Subject: Re: Jehovah has been hurting me in Southern California gravely . Message-ID: <JImdnTXrOMkCubDZRVnyiQ@pipex.net>  & <agascoig@yahoo.com> wrote in message = news:1143775062.978384.302340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...  > <snip insanity>   M Is this care in the community week? Have the US lunatic asylums had a strike  D and forced all the inmates to use internet connections to keep them 	 occupied.   K Google should be sued for providing the insane with such unfettered access   to USENET.     ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 07:28:57 -0800# From: "esmlima" <esmlima@gmail.com> : Subject: LoadModule Mod_jk error - Tomcat with Apache CSWSB Message-ID: <1143818937.243423.86810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  E I need help configuring the Apache web server together with CSWS_JAVA  (Tomcat) - Mod_jk.  F The apache server works fine, but in the apache$jakarta config, when IE just enable mod_jk the apache server fails to restart. The apache log  errors follows:   
 ERROR_LOG. " " [Thu Mar 30 14:48:57 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName F [Thu Mar 30 14:48:57 2006] [warn] pid file /apache$root/logs/httpd.pid7 overwritten -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run? ; [Thu Mar 30 14:48:58 2006] [notice] Apache/1.3.26 (OpenVMS) F mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.7d configured -- resuming normal operationsB [Thu Mar 30 14:48:58 2006] [notice] Accept mutex: vmsdlm (Default: vmsdlm) " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:04 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:05 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:06 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:08 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName B [Thu Mar 30 14:49:09 2006] [error] [client 10.0.0.2] no acceptable) variant: /apache$common/htdocs/index.html " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:10 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName " [Thu Mar 30 14:49:13 2006] [alert]E ihm001$dka0:[sys0.syscommon.apache.][000000]apache_httpd.exe;1: Could = not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using  10.0.0.210 for ServerName B [Thu Mar 30 14:59:14 2006] [warn] child process 1560 did not exit, sending another SIGHUPB [Thu Mar 30 14:59:15 2006] [warn] child process 1561 did not exit, sending another SIGHUPB [Thu Mar 30 14:59:15 2006] [warn] child process 1562 did not exit, sending another SIGHUPB [Thu Mar 30 14:59:15 2006] [warn] child process 1563 did not exit, sending another SIGHUPB [Thu Mar 30 14:59:15 2006] [warn] child process 1566 did not exit, sending another SIGHUPC [Thu Mar 30 14:59:15 2006] [notice] SIGHUP received.  Attempting to  restart  Syntax error on line 8 of 1 /SYS$COMMON/APACHE/JAKARTA/CONF/MOD_JK.CONF-AUTO: 5 Can't locate API module structure `jk_module' in file G /apache$root/apache$mod_jk: %LIB-E-ACTIMAGE, error activating image !AS    "    MOD_JK.CONF-AUTO:  "  # ; # The following line instructs Apache to load the jk module  # " LoadModule jk_module apache$mod_jk   "   G Is it possible to test loading this module manually? How can I do this? E Is it possible to test CSWS_JAVA without mod_jk? It seems like Tomcat E starts and is running ok, because in the config menu option "6 - View 9 current configuration" I can see the process TOMCAT_8007.   D Does anyone have ever seen this error before? I'm trying to run CSWS) V1.3-1, CSWS_JAVA V1.1 on an OpenVMS 7.3.    Thanks in advance  Eduardo    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 02:35:07 -0800+ From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <zator@yandex.ru> 0 Subject: Looking for BINARY kit of OmniORB 4.0.7B Message-ID: <1143801307.736725.69420@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  
 Hello All!  C 	I looking for binaries of OmniORB 4.0.7 kit for OpenVMS/Alpha 7.x!   , 	Is there some one who can provide me this ?  	 	Thanks !    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:24:07 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> " Subject: Re: OPA0 on DS10L problem) Message-ID: <op.s697mhxazgicya@hyrrokkin>   E On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:14:53 -0800, John Santos <john@egh.com> wrote:    > William Webb wrote: 1 >> On 3/29/06, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  >>H >>> Using a DB9 null modem cable I can connect from a PC using HypertermJ >>> to either TTA0 or OPA0 on an XP1000, but only TTA0 on a DS10L.  I haveI >>> confirmed that the settings for OPA0 are identical for the two.  If I < >>> loop the cable on the DS10L from TTA0 to OPA0 I can both >>> , >>> SET HOST/DTE OPA0  and SET HOST/DTE TTA0 >>>  >>> Any ideas? >>> ? >>  The DS10L has two DB9 serial ports which are TTA0 and TTB0. 2 >>  You use TTA0 as the console port on the DS10L.6 >>  I, too, don't understand what you're trying to do.
 >>  WWWebb >>  --F >> NOTE: This email address is only used for noncommerical VMS-related >> correspondence.F >> All unsolicited commercial email will be deemed to be a request for; >> services pursuant to the terms and conditions located at & >> http://bellsouthpwp.net/w/e/webbww/ > C > Unlike everyone else, I think I *do* understand what Tom is doing  > (or trying to do.) :-) >  > E > As I understand it, you take the same DB9 loopback cable that works A > between the PC and both ports of the XP1000 and that also works @ > between the PC and the TTA0: on the DS10L.  This setup doesn't? > work when you take the same cable and connect the PC to OPA0: ? > on the DS10L.  However (here's the kicker!), if you take that @ > very same cable, and connect it between OPA0: and TTA0: on the > DS10L, then you can: > D > 1) log in from somewhere else (DECnet, telnet, decterm session, VT# > terminal on a terminal server...)  >  > 2) SET HOST/DTE TTA0:  >  > 3) hit return  > ; > 4) See a USERNAME: prompt (from OPA0:), log in, etc. etc.  >  > 5) logout from OPA0: > @ > 6) ctrl-\ to get back to DCL on you original terminal session. > 8 > and ****  you can do the exact same thing in the other > direction, i.e.  >  > 2) SET HOST/DTE OPA0:  >  > 3) hit return  > " > 4) See USERNAME: from TTA0:, ... > 2 > i.e., use the null modem in the other direction. > F > This, if I understand correctly, means the cable is good, both portsF > are set the same way, same speed, flow control, stop bits, etc. etc. > H > So the bottom line is "What's wrong".  Short answer, "no idea" :-( :-( >  > E > Actually, I think there must be something wrong with one or more of H > the modem signals, DTR, DSR, etc. which is getting generated correctlyI > by the TTA0: port, but not by the PC.  Whatever the signal is, for some H > reason VMS (or the hardware) cares about it on OPA0: of the DS10L, butF > not on any of the other ports on the (DS10L TTA0:, both ports on the
 > XP1000.) > G > To properly diagnose something like this, you need a breakout box, or H > at least some way of testing and strapping the individual lines of theH > DB9 null-modem cable.  (I have a couple of DB25 breakout boxes, but noI > DB9 one.  On the few occasions where I've had to debug DB9 connections, I > I've been able to use DB9-DB25 adapters and not introduce more problems H > than I've solved.)  Maybe this will ring a bell (har har) and some oneJ > will remember something like "The console port goes nuts with a floating2 > RI (ring) signal.  Make sure pin X is grounded."  F Now the same cable from the PC to an XP1000 OPA0 works fine, also fromA XP1000/TTA0 to DS10L/OPA0 works  so likely the PC is generating a E signal that bothers the DS10L on OPA0 but not TTA0, nor the XP1000 on ? either port.  Now since the RI signal is the only not wired for H a NULL modem, it could well be complicit.  I could try making up a cableH leaving pin 9 unconnected.  If this were any PC one might suspect signalK levels, but this is a Dell Poweredge server.  Also that fact the port works H with OPA0 on Pelicans, Miatas and XP1000 makes me also suspect something; in the DS10L OPA0 isn't as it should be.  Maybe Fred knows?    > F > This gets complicated, because any given signal may be high, low, orE > floating (not driven by anything) and any of these conditions could E > cause problems.  The solution might be to strap a signal high, low, F > or to another signal, either from the same end or looped around fromH > the other end.  Since there are 9 pins on a DB9, this gets complicated3 > fast!  (But TD, RD and ground are probably fine.)  > # > Maybe Black Box still sells BOBs?  >    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 05:18:01 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS 3 Message-ID: <zxNcNifiU8zX@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <e0ioeq$c5i$00$1@news.t-online.com>, Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> writes: > Bob Koehler schrieb: >>  F >>    While VMS is not immune to social engineering attacks, I'm quiteA >>    sure none of my VMS users knows the administrator password.  >>   > I > Well, the VMS boxes (VAX and alpha) I have "inherited" for hobbyist use  > were quite easy to "crack".    Physical control beats all. M Knowing the administrator password is different from being able to change it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:56:49 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <0rCdndN6ptCMurDZRVn-rQ@comcast.com>   Michael Kraemer wrote: > Bob Koehler schrieb: >  >>F >>    While VMS is not immune to social engineering attacks, I'm quiteA >>    sure none of my VMS users knows the administrator password.  >> > I > Well, the VMS boxes (VAX and alpha) I have "inherited" for hobbyist use  > were quite easy to "crack". B > Once you have access to the console you can apply the published F > procedure to reset the SYSTEM password and the box is at your hands.H > I didn't even need original OS media for that (as I would have needed  > e.g. for AIX). >   I Any box can be cracked if you have physical access to it.  That's one of  G the reasons why the computer room/data center is usually a secure area  $ with access limited to IT personnel.   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 06:03:15 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS C Message-ID: <1143813795.540634.162260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   F About the only way around that is to use the BIOS passwords and encyptE your disks.  You have to enter the password at every boot, but you're 0 much more secure if someone has physical access.   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 07:40:35 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 7 Subject: Re: Opinion: I was just trying to sell OpenVMS 3 Message-ID: <NgLOO4ns+E+E@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <e0ioeq$c5i$00$1@news.t-online.com>, Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer@gsi.de> writes: > I > Well, the VMS boxes (VAX and alpha) I have "inherited" for hobbyist use  > were quite easy to "crack". B > Once you have access to the console you can apply the published F > procedure to reset the SYSTEM password and the box is at your hands.H > I didn't even need original OS media for that (as I would have needed  > e.g. for AIX).  2    No OS overcomes the need for physical security.  D    Every OS I've ever dealt with had some way of recovering from theC    equivalent of lost administrator password.  Not a single one was B    immune to the expedient of sticking it's system disk in another/    computer running the same OS as a data disk.   D    Your skills at getting into AIX are a little weak if you need the    OS distribution.   C    At least with VMS I don't have to worry about loosing the entire C    setup on an operational system if the admin staff quits one day.         ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 07:31:21 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: OT - Unix/Linux FS performance question3 Message-ID: <lhCP1hO7Mdub@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDOEDIHGAA.dallen@nist.gov>, "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> writes: > R > I know this is a VMS group but there's a couple lurker's here that I'm sure haveR > some reliable experience and/or knowledge on this matter. I promise I won't takeM > more than a small amount of time away from the normal HP bashing bandwidth.  > O > A co-worker of mine just came in and asked what performance problems might he R > likely encounter if he maintained a set of roughly 100,000 files on a Linux box?R > How many files/directory, what FS, etc for reasonable create/lookup performance.R > He's a DB guy and since the files are all smallish he was considering using a DBO > table over the FS. Lookups WAY less frequent than creates. I have not a clue.   E    If he's satisfied with the reliability issues of keeping large RAM D    based caches then he can buy lots of RAM and Linux will use it to     keep up disk I/O performance.  G    His results may depend on which file system he chooses for the disk. D    There is probably a kernel parameter he can tune to determine howF    much RAM cache his file system uses.  IIRC the default s 10% of RAM    size.  F    He will probably not have the directory cache limitation that olderH    versions of VMS had, but I'd still recommend a directory tree instead2    of stuffing all 100,000 files in one directory.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:29:52 -0500 + From: Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> ' Subject: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers 5 Message-ID: <e0jecs$5il$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0105080307080800000407049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   F We're running the following Alpha servers with Openvms 7.3-2 and 8.2. + What's the latest version of Linux and Unix H that will run on these servers? Also, is there a way to keep OpenVMS on % these and add another O.S (one of the 3 above) and use a bridge SW product to utilize both?    Thanks in advance, Chuck   	 Alpha 800  (3) Alpha DS25's (1) Alpha DS20E.    & --------------010508030708080000040704) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">  <html> <head>I   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">    <title></title>  </head> ' <body bgcolor="#339999" text="#ffffff"> E We're running the following Alpha servers with Openvms 7.3-2 and 8.2. 0 What's the latest version of Linux and Unix <br>G that will run on these servers? Also, is there a way to keep OpenVMS on ) these and add another O.S (one of the<br> 7 above) and use a bridge SW product to utilize both?<br>  <br> Thanks in advance,<br>	 Chuck<br>  <br>
 Alpha 800<br>  (3) Alpha DS25's<br> (1) Alpha DS20E.<br> <br> </body>  </html>   ( --------------010508030708080000040704--   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 06:48:49 -08003 From: "Ralf Gaertner" <ralf.gaertner@t-systems.com> + Subject: Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers C Message-ID: <1143816529.688616.258610@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>    Linux don't know Tru64 5.1.B3 Patchkit 5    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:25:42 +0200 + From: Marc Schlensog <fishtank.spam@web.de> + Subject: Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers : Message-ID: <20060331172542.fc7a99a1.fishtank.spam@web.de>  " On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:29:52 -0500, Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> wrote:  H > We're running the following Alpha servers with Openvms 7.3-2 and 8.2. % > What's the latest version of Linux     Any current version will do.  
 > and Unix  2 This question has been answered bei Ralf Gaertner.  F > that will run on these servers? Also, is there a way to keep OpenVMS* > on these and add another O.S (one of the5 > above) and use a bridge SW product to utilize both?   B Yes. It is possible bei installing each OS on a seperate disk. YouD won't be able to use them at the same time, though. At least I don't believe that this is possible.   >  > Thanks in advance, > Chuck  >  > Alpha 800  > (3) Alpha DS25's > (1) Alpha DS20E.   HTH,   Marc   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:41:44 +0000 (UTC) ( From: m.kraemer@gsi.de (Michael Kraemer)+ Subject: Re: Question OS's. - Alpha Servers 5 Message-ID: <e0jijo$6e0$1@lnx107.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>   A In article <e0jecs$5il$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>, Chuck Aaron ! <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> writes: * > Also, is there a way to keep OpenVMS on ' > these and add another O.S (one of the 5 > above) and use a bridge SW product to utilize both?  >   C You may put different OSs on different disks in a dual boot config. L And may have fun with the TOY clock trashed by one OS if you boot the other.4 (At least that's what my ancient alphastation does, 8  maybe DEC^WCompaq^WHP have fixed that in the meantime).   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:16:04 +0200 = From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Markus_D=F6hr?= <wantbottom@t-online.de> = Subject: Re: SAP small business solutions now run on OpenVMS! ( Message-ID: <442D71E4.70007@t-online.de>   bob@instantwhip.com wrote:> > that is what I was told by a salesman who called ... if true2 > then excellent news ... can you verify this Sue? >   A I have access to the sap service network and I haven't found ANY   information about that.   D SAP has a new version of the VMS (= Vehicle Management System) in a 9 RampUp for customers, maybe that was as misunderstanding.   A However, there are some libraries to develop but nowhere is told  , anything about SAP beeing ported to OpenVMS.   --   Markus   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 06:30:30 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>) Subject: Re: VMS Admin Position Available C Message-ID: <1143815430.351882.299390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Doug Phillips wrote: > bob@instantwhip.com wrote:= > > how about why now when I go into a thread I always end up = > > at the top at message one when before they changed things < > > I would end up at the most recent message posted?  I can  > > find no setting for this ... > C > They just put message numbers back after I and a few other people E > pointed out that with Firefox, in "frame view", the little "current I > view" pointer doesn't move. I don't know about other browsers, but this D > looks like another "designed for IE" situation. If something isn't  E It broke on IE, too. Also, why would you not want the numbers even if A the pointer *were* working? What if there are several short posts 1 visible at one time? Put the fricking numbers in.    Sometimes less *is* less.   I > working for you, use the "contact us" info and tell them about it. They / > seem to care about making things work better.   B Except for the initial re-design of the format when it became Beta again.  , Also, some broken things they refuse to fix.  G > As far as where you end up when you open a thread, I don't find it to C > be consistent. However, now that "how to quote messages" has been F > explained to you, there is no reason for you to post the way you do.F > Some people don't see threads so your postings have no context. Just > trying to help.    AEF    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2006 13:05:46 +0200/ From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) , Subject: Re: xp1000 boot flags and vms 7.2-1+ Message-ID: <FV0$L4ag$GaJ@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   \ In article <1143783587.241374.230530@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, gobo20@lycos.com writes:I > i picked up a used xp1000 to use at home.  had to fumble around to find H > a boot flag that would boot the hard disk after loading 7.2-1.  i came; > up with -flags 0.  is that the correct flag for this box?   G The flag has nothing to do with the hardware type, it tells the primary L bootstrap which system root to boot. 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