1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 23 May 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 284       Contents:' Re: Bad-Clients: definitely not working " Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia Re: DS10L Motherboard into DS10 / Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000 / Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000 / Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000 / Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000 / Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000 J Re: How to restore one BACKUP/IMAGE from tape with mutliple BACKUP/IMAGEs?# Re: Investigating port 2424 (TCPIP) # Re: Investigating port 2424 (TCPIP) 5 Pathworks question (I Know but that group is dormant)  Re: Results of my straw poll. 
 SHOW$DEBUG Re: SHOW$DEBUG  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:35:31 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)0 Subject: Re: Bad-Clients: definitely not working$ Message-ID: <e4tar3$l9q$1@online.de>  5 In article <4470F9EF.682E6BE4@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: A > > Then I would have to put EVERY IP I receive email from in the  > > good-clients list.   > I > Nop. The good clients list is to define your local LAN so that hosts in H > the good client list can relay to the outside world. Those outside theH > good clients list cannot relay to the outside world. The outside workdI > is defined by the "Relay -Zones:" line in the config file which defines E > to whom peoople in the world can send email to via your SMTP server ' > without it being considered a "relay"   F OK, now that you say so, it makes sense.  From the documentation, one H gets the impression that it is somehow complementary to the Bad-Clients  list.   J > AKA: if the TCPIP SHOW CONF SMTP says "RELAY" , then you must define theE > good clients and the relay zones to make your server functional AND J > safe. Without both, then people can use your server as a relay server toJ > send hundreds of billions of spam messages (unless you are on a microvax= > II where they will only be able to send dozens of spams :-)   A I always have RELAY disabled.  All my nodes send mail through an  H external SMTP server (i.e. I don't have any nodes which aren't directly $ connected to the internet for SMTP).  E > The Bad Clients: is acted upon right at the connection establishent I > before the client can issue any commands. In your case, it appears that J > the software ignores the bad clients because of an implicit good clients > that encompasses everything.  G Yes.  I think this is a bug, either in the software (my point of view)   or in the documentation.  G Normally, people want to stop spam.  Normally, they don't want to be a  F relay.  So the first place they look is Bad-Clients.  Then it doesn't F work.  The documentation doesn't say that it only works if there is a H Good-Clients defined as well.  (Apparently, it doesn't matter what's in H it, it just has to exist; I don't even have RELAY switched on anywhere.)  G > The whole point of the good-clients list is to define which hosts can J > send email to hosts that are not in your domain (aka: relay). Hosts thatG > are not considered "good clients" can only send email to your domain.   0 Is this mentioned ANYWHERE in the documentation?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:30:13 +0200 3 From: Wilm Boerhout <w4OLD.boerhout@PAINTplanet.nl> + Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia 6 Message-ID: <44721f53$0$28890$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl>  & Neil Rieck wrote on 22-5-2006 17:01...O > I don't really have an opinion one way or another on this (because I thought  E > she was kind of cool) but has anyone seen Carly's bio at Wikipedia?  > , > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina >  > Is any of this stuff true?  F Yes, and worse. Read "Good to Great" by Jim Collins and you will know 8 why this woman could never have helped HP, only herself.   /Wilm    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:03:47 -0600  From: Dan Notov <d9nno@hp.com>+ Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia , Message-ID: <4471eef4$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Neil Rieck wrote: O > I don't really have an opinion one way or another on this (because I thought  E > she was kind of cool) but has anyone seen Carly's bio at Wikipedia?  > , > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina >  > Is any of this stuff true?G Yes, but pretty much a biased point of view. Wikipedia categorized the  H article as possibly biased. There is also some talk that the photo is a G forgery. The link refers to a US Dept. of Commerce site, but the photo  
 is not there.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:33:45 -0400 , From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavy.com>+ Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia - Message-ID: <44726661.C050A22D@vaxination.ca>   . > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina > >  > > Is any of this stuff true?    H Before she was fired, she had outed herself as openly republican and she@ had said that she had hoped to be able to contribute to the BushE regime's second administration.  Not sure about her potential role at H world bank, but she had been considered for Homeland Security because ofH her experience in merging Compaq with HP.  However, she was fired before5 that and became tainted goods  unusable for politics.   E If Carly was hoping for a job offer in january/february, she probably D figured that it was better to refuse to reduce her responsabilities.E Doing so would have reduced her worth. She underestimated the board's E willingness to fire her ASAP, and in the end, her political worth was D wiped out when she was fired. In hindsight, she should have acceptedG reduced responsabilities to ensure she stayed marketable long enough to " get the job offer from the regime.  G The bio also omits the fact that she broke HP up, spinning off the real E HP and giving it a very forgettable name (what is it again ?, of yeah D Agilent).  She also presided Lucent during the onset of .COM and useD Lucent to become a high flyer, but Lucent was set on a self destruct2 course and has recently been purchased by Alcatel.  E Nortel made similar mistakes and while it is still alive, it is still E struggling. My guess is that Nortel and Lucent were racing to see who ? could spend the most money on ventures with 0 chance of profit.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:11:24 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ( Subject: Re: DS10L Motherboard into DS10) Message-ID: <op.s9y3xavjzgicya@hyrrokkin>   C On Mon, 22 May 2006 12:51:44 -0700, DBT <dbturner@icusc.com> wrote:   5 > If it is a hobbyist system then it should work fine / > Physically the boards are identical size-wise  > K > Make sure you take the Heat sink and fan off the DS10 466 and use it on    > the  > 617    And thermal paste.  < > Don't evne think of rying to use the DS10L fan on the DS100 > If I remember correctly the fan won't even fit, > Apart from that it should work floorlessly > I > OBTW - be careful taking the board out - there is a tiny philips scre    > next" > to the USB connector that peopleI > tend not to see and can cause serious damage to the board if overtugged  >  > DT >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:48:52 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com8 Subject: Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000Q Message-ID: <OF8E90A65A.56FDC336-ON85257176.00612375-85257176.0061D3F9@metso.com>   F "Michael D. Ober" <"obermd."@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote on 05/22/2006 12:47:04 PM:   > G > The problem is a comparison >= 0 is returning "false" when the GFloat  shouldK > be exactly 0.  I have manually done the calculations and am versed in the H > issues surrounding the use of floating point numbers, rounding errors, and K > comparisons.  Unfortunately I inherited this code and it's in a financial < > payment module.  I am obviously wary of breaking the code. >   J I have seen code in the past where approaching zero from the negative side& resulted in a stored "-0" for example:   x=-5 y=5  z=x+y    resulting in (-5) + (5) = (-0)  ! but rounding was not the culpert.   K If you truly have exactly zero then a simple IF x >= 0 and 0-x = 0 then x=0 > should fix it if your compiled code handles the sign properly.   The original suggestion:  F > > To verify, in your basic code, when the problem occurs, output the suspect 1 > > negative zero and zero values in hexadecimal.   C is still a good idea to see what is really there.  It may be that a  roundingE function at some appropriate precision will fix this without breaking  things, / but without knowing the stored values, well....      > Mike.  > 7 > "Jeff Cameron" <roktsci@comcast.net> wrote in message , > news:C097327D.1F894%roktsci@comcast.net...D > > On 5/22/06 8:50 AM, in article 03lcg.11$qB6.580@news.uswest.net, "Michael > D./ > > Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote:  > >  > > > D > > > I have run up against the floating point reality that zero and negative > zeroH > > > are not the same number.  Is there a method in DEC Basic to ignore the 9 > > > floating point guard digits when doing comparisons?  > > > 
 > > > Thanks,  > > > Mike Ober. > > >  > > >  > > > 	 > > Mike,  > > J > > More than likely you are dealing with two G_Float values that are very > small F > > but in fact non-zero. The rounding is done in formatting the ascii output > toH > > display the value. If your output format can best display 10**-5 and yourK > > binary G_Float values are (plus/minus) less than 10**-6, it will indeed  > > output a value of zero.  > > F > > To verify, in your basic code, when the problem occurs, output the suspect 1 > > negative zero and zero values in hexadecimal.  > >  > > Jeff > >  > >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 18:31:48 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>8 Subject: Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-0000 Message-ID: <osncg.894$Vg6.807@news.cpqcorp.net>   Michael D. Ober wrote:  K > comparisons.  Unfortunately I inherited this code and it's in a financial < > payment module.  I am obviously wary of breaking the code.  K Please don't tell me that the code uses G_float to track currency!!! Yikes!   H I don't suspect any compiler bug, but have you tried the latest version  (V1.6)?   C I don't think there is any way to turn hard comparisons into fuzzy   comparisons.   --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:13:46 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 8 Subject: Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000) Message-ID: <op.s9yvo8lkzgicya@hyrrokkin>   K On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:31:48 -0700, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> wrote:   H > Please don't tell me that the code uses G_float to track currency!!!   > Yikes! > 4 My thought too. Maybe they keep the rounding errors.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:35:09 -0400 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> 8 Subject: Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-000: Message-ID: <tNGdnQRi5dPgve_ZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com>   Michael D. Ober wrote: >   N > The problem is a comparison >= 0 is returning "false" when the GFloat shouldK > be exactly 0.  I have manually done the calculations and am versed in the L > issues surrounding the use of floating point numbers, rounding errors, andK > comparisons.  Unfortunately I inherited this code and it's in a financial < > payment module.  I am obviously wary of breaking the code. >  > Mike.  > 7 > "Jeff Cameron" <roktsci@comcast.net> wrote in message , > news:C097327D.1F894%roktsci@comcast.net... > K >>On 5/22/06 8:50 AM, in article 03lcg.11$qB6.580@news.uswest.net, "Michael  >  > D. > - >>Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote:  >> >>J >>>I have run up against the floating point reality that zero and negative >  > zero > I >>>are not the same number.  Is there a method in DEC Basic to ignore the 6 >>>floating point guard digits when doing comparisons? >>> 
 >>>Thanks,
 >>>Mike Ober.  >>>  >>>  >>>  >> >>Mike,  >>H >>More than likely you are dealing with two G_Float values that are very >  > small  > K >>but in fact non-zero. The rounding is done in formatting the ascii output  >  > to > K >>display the value. If your output format can best display 10**-5 and your I >>binary G_Float values are (plus/minus) less than 10**-6, it will indeed  >>output a value of zero.  >>L >>To verify, in your basic code, when the problem occurs, output the suspect/ >>negative zero and zero values in hexadecimal.  >> >>Jeff >> >> >  >  >  >   1 Suggest IF ABS(A-B .LT. 0.0001)  Go do zero thing   I One of the failings of floating point is that zero is not always exactly  G zero.  Mathmatically, the difference IS zero but computationally it is  G frequently not.  Test that the result is less than some suitably small  E value and, if so, call the result 0.  Even double precision does not  H guarantee an exact result.  See any good text on Numerical Analysis for ! further discussion of the issues.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:51:29 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 8 Subject: Re: GFloat Rounding issue in DEC Basic V1.2-0009 Message-ID: <B-WdnfFJ7e2NG-_ZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@libcom.com>    Richard B. Gilbert wrote:  > Michael D. Ober wrote: >>  I >> The problem is a comparison >= 0 is returning "false" when the GFloat  	 >> should L >> be exactly 0.  I have manually done the calculations and am versed in theJ >> issues surrounding the use of floating point numbers, rounding errors,  >> andL >> comparisons.  Unfortunately I inherited this code and it's in a financial= >> payment module.  I am obviously wary of breaking the code.    <snip>  H I just knew that the recriminations about using floating point would be E fired out rather quickly, and John and Tom didn't disappoint me.  :-)   G They do have a point, and as compiler writers understand it as well as  F anyone.  Floating point numbers, as implemented on computers, are not F precise, they approach a value, sort of like calculus.  Regardless, a : programmer who knows what he's using can make things work.   > 3 > Suggest IF ABS(A-B .LT. 0.0001)  Go do zero thing   G Richard has the right concept, but I think his fingers got a bit ahead   of him.  More proper would be:  : 	if ABS(expression) < (your spec for zero) then it's zero.  G For dollars, the spec could be .005, for other currencies, whatever is  G required.  you could even bury this in a function, but I've never gone  	 that far.   K > One of the failings of floating point is that zero is not always exactly  I > zero.  Mathmatically, the difference IS zero but computationally it is  I > frequently not.  Test that the result is less than some suitably small  G > value and, if so, call the result 0.  Even double precision does not  J > guarantee an exact result.  See any good text on Numerical Analysis for # > further discussion of the issues.  >   H I've implemented many financial systems using double precision floating F point, including an Accounts Payable system that DEC used at one time.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2006 16:21:40 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) S Subject: Re: How to restore one BACKUP/IMAGE from tape with mutliple BACKUP/IMAGEs? 3 Message-ID: <e6Ikd3lq2FSq@eisner.encompasserve.org>   > In article <vYwbg.186$gc6.110@fe06.lga>, Z <Z@ids.net> writes:I > I have a backup tape. It contains 10 $BACKUP/IMAGEs, written one after  3 > the other, one for each disk on the Alpha server.  > K > I need to restore just one disk from the tape, the 6th disk backed up on   > the tape.  >  > What are the proper commands?  > M > Do I need to skip over savesets/images? Or just pick the right one by name?   <    Pick the right one by name.  BACKUP will find and use it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:29:13 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: Investigating port 2424 (TCPIP), Message-ID: <44721108.26FB9CF8@teksavvy.com>   Simon Clubley wrote:I > During the few seconds that your connection is active to the port, does H > "$ tcpip show device" + "$ show device" show any other process as been
 > active ?    H Just tried. The telnet connection doesn't stay up long enough to do bothH operations. I tried to do a SHOW DEV BG*/FULL as a single operation, butG couldn't catch anything conclusive. But there were no odd process names  attached to devices.  D I am wondering if this might be some leftover from a test I did someF time ago with the kernel still listining to a port that has no service attached to it anymore.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:55:06 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> , Subject: Re: Investigating port 2424 (TCPIP)9 Message-ID: <B-WdnfBJ7e0pG-_ZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@libcom.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Simon Clubley wrote:J >> During the few seconds that your connection is active to the port, doesI >> "$ tcpip show device" + "$ show device" show any other process as been  >> active ?  >  > J > Just tried. The telnet connection doesn't stay up long enough to do bothJ > operations. I tried to do a SHOW DEV BG*/FULL as a single operation, butI > couldn't catch anything conclusive. But there were no odd process names  > attached to devices. > F > I am wondering if this might be some leftover from a test I did someH > time ago with the kernel still listining to a port that has no service > attached to it anymore.   2 Set up accounting to record all image activations.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:53:58 -0400 " From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>> Subject: Pathworks question (I Know but that group is dormant)0 Message-ID: <127497a9iumvc69@corp.supernews.com>   When trying this command  + TESSCO\\KELVIN> show computers/domain=magic   A %PWRK-E-ERRGETSRV, error getting server information for "GLC-DC1"   F -LM-E-ERROR_ACCESS_DE, insufficient privileges for attempted operation   TESSCO\\KELVIN> Exit      ' Where this command yiedls these results    TESSCO\\KELVIN> show trust  ! Domains trusted by domain TESSCO:    MAGIC   ) Domains permitted to trust domain TESSCO:    MAGIC           = ---Has anyone seen this or have a fix for this under V6D ....    ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2006 16:15:12 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Results of my straw poll.3 Message-ID: <hHWddVAp9IzV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <4d60nvF18ts8cU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: 5 > In article <SH+ydvNjGpSV@eisner.encompasserve.org>, @ > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:c >> In article <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDOEJEHIAA.dallen@nist.gov>, "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> writes:  >>> T >>> Amen brother! Sections M, U, and P of the docset. I've been around both Unix andS >>> VMS pretty much from the git-go and I've always listed the VMS documentation as - >>> one of VMS's bigger advantages over Unix.  >>  K >>    The worst documentation I had to deal with was the HP-UX man page for K >>    the magnetic tape interface.  It told me that the minor number of the F >>    special device file contained bit fields to control auto rewind,K >>    density, compression, and such but didn't show the layout of the bit  M >>    fields.  I had to experiment with a variety of files in /dev to reverse % >>    engineer the controls I needed.  >>  K >>    I think the author assumed if I was looking at minor device numbers I  >>    must have the source.  > H > Unless HP-UX became even worse over the years than it was the one time= > I was forced to use it, that should not have been an issue.  >   K    IIRC the first letter n for no auto-rewind was observed by HP-UX.  That  G    was the only thing in the name meaniningfull to the user.  All other *    meaningfull names were up to the admin.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:05:52 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>  Subject: SHOW$DEBUG 7 Message-ID: <etrcg.475$ho5.60548@news20.bellglobal.com>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C67DD2.BEB2C970  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="Windows-1252"  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    Folks,  ) Check out this cool undocumented command.    p.s. sorry for the HTML posting   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html9 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html   	     #####    $sho dev dka100   M Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans   Mnt L Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count  Cnt M KAWC99$DKA100:          Mounted              0  CSMISUSER1     5215860   185   1    $def show$debug y  $sho dev dka100   2 Locks queued to device lock "SYS$_KAWC99$DKA100:":  I - Lock 580004F6,  length of items 00180030,  $ENQ status 00000001, value  ) block 3248E921 00000000 00000000 00000019 = -   LOCKID     PID      SYSID   (node)     REMLKID  REMSYSID   RQMODE  GRMODE   STATEL -  06000041  00000000  00000000 ()        06000041  00000000 ()          04 # 01     01     [ PW / CR / GRANTED ] L -  580004F6  00017E67  00000000 ()        580004F6  00000000 ()          00 # 00     01     [ NL / NL / GRANTED ]   M Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans   Mnt M  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count   Cnt M KAWC99$DKA100:          Mounted              0  CSMISUSER1     5215860   185   1     + ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C67DD2.BEB2C970  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="Windows-1252" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =  charset=3Dwindows-1252">9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY>G <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Folks,<BR><BR>Check out this =  cool=20 " undocumented command.</FONT></DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>C <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>p.s. sorry for the HTML=20  posting</FONT></DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>6 <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><FONT size=3D2>Neil=20J Rieck<BR>Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,<BR>Ontario, Canada.<BR></FONT><A=20J href=3D"http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html"><FONT=20J size=3D2>http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html</FONT><= /A><BR><A=20J href=3D"http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html"><FONT =  J size=3D2>http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/openvms_demos.html</FONT>= </A></FONT></DIV> H <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"><BR><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 #####</FONT></FONT></DIV> < <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><STRONG>$sho dev=20 dka100</STRONG></FONT></DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>" <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20J size=3D2>Device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=/ p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 E Device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Error&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 9 Volume&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Free&nbsp; Trans=20 J Mnt<BR>Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=1 bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 E Status&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Count&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 2 Label&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 Blocks Count=20 J Cnt<BR>KAWC99$DKA100:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= p;=20 J Mounted&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;=20 @ 0&nbsp; CSMISUSER1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5215860&nbsp;&nbsp; = 185&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 1<BR></FONT></DIV>C <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><STRONG>$def show$debug=20 ; y</STRONG><BR><STRONG>$sho dev dka100</STRONG></FONT></DIV> < <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>G <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Locks queued to device lock=20 # "SYS$_KAWC99$DKA100:":</FONT></DIV> < <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>H <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>- Lock 580004F6,&nbsp; length = of items=20 E 00180030,&nbsp; $ENQ status 00000001, value block 3248E921 00000000 =  00000000=20 ; 00000019<BR>-&nbsp;&nbsp; LOCKID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 6 PID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SYSID&nbsp;&nbsp;=20/ (node)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; REMLKID&nbsp;=20 G REMSYSID&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 A RQMODE&nbsp; GRMODE&nbsp;&nbsp; STATE<BR>-&nbsp; 06000041&nbsp; =  00000000&nbsp;=20 F 00000000 ()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 06000041&nbsp; = 00000000=20 ; ()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 > 04&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 01&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20= 01&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [ PW / CR / GRANTED ]<BR>-&nbsp; =  580004F6&nbsp;=20 G 00017E67&nbsp; 00000000 ()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  580004F6&nbsp; 00000000 = ; ()&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 > 00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 00&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20= 01&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [ NL / NL / GRANTED ]</FONT></DIV> < <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>" <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New"=20J size=3D2>Device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=/ p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 E Device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Error&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 9 Volume&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Free&nbsp; Trans=20 J Mnt<BR>&nbsp;Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=7 bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 E Status&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20  Count&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 2 Label&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 Blocks Count=20 J Cnt<BR>KAWC99$DKA100:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= p;=20 J Mounted&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp;=20 @ 0&nbsp; CSMISUSER1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5215860&nbsp;&nbsp; = 185&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 1</FONT></DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20= face=3D"Courier New">&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>   - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C67DD2.BEB2C970--    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 20:44:47 -0400 , From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavy.com> Subject: Re: SHOW$DEBUG + Message-ID: <44725AEA.C0F9B0EF@teksavy.com>    > Neil Rieck wrote: ! > p.s. sorry for the HTML posting   9 You'll spend 2000 years in burning hell because of it :-)      > $def show$debug y  > $sho dev dka100     ! WOW ! Nice easter egg in there !    ' I can confirm this works on VAX VMS 7.2    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.284 ************************