1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 24 May 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 287       Contents: A sorry saga Re: An obscure bug in DIRECTORY ' Re: Bad-Clients: definitely not working " Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia" Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia	 Re: DN-11 	 Re: DN-11 ! Re: Educating potential VMS users ! Re: Educating potential VMS users ! Re: Educating potential VMS users ) Re: How to do automated email proccessing  Re: Results of my straw poll.  Re: Results of my straw poll. 0 Re: speeding up LAVC with switch instead of hub? Re: VPM_SERVER strangeness  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:10:26 +0100 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> Subject: A sorry saga 4 Message-ID: <e51ev4$l5i$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>  K Our system (DS20E, Alpha VMS 7.3-1) is currently in some kind of busy loop. 4 It's spending about 70% in kernel mode, 30% in exec.I I can kill the offending process (always clocking vast numbers of direct  F I/Os, as well as CPU), but the 'problem' transfers to another process.  E My woes started on Monday, when maintenance inadvertently pulled the  H power on our RA3000 disk array. They plugged it back in within a minute B or so, and the Alpha VMS cluster survived. Subsequently though we B started experiencing disk corruption - multiply allocated blocks, . corrupted index file blocks, and other issues.  E I tried to straighten it out with dfu, and manually rebuilding files. G 11am yesterday morning I rebuilt the corrupt sales order file with all  D the orders I could recover - while the disks and files now appeared - clean, issues seemed to be worse, not better. E I restored 3 disks (system, cluster common, and an application) from  8 Friday night's backup, and last night all appeared well.  E This morning we have new index bucket corruption in previously clean  A files on previously clean disks, and the system permanently busy. A The system is reporting some 50% traffic on its gigabit ethernet  # connection, and lots of collisions. C There's no hardware errors recorded, but I don't really think it's  $ software and I'm somewhat at a loss.   Offending processes include:G a tracking program that handles 50 or so lat-connected barcode readers. # MX Local (from the MX mail package)  IUPOP3G a dcl monitoring program that checks every 5 minutes that all critical  I apps are running, and restarts them if not - reads its .com file, writes  2 its .log, and uses f$getjpi, f$getqui, and submit.    So we appear to have 2 problems:B 1. mysterious consumption of all CPU doing billions of direct I/Os 2. filesystem corruption  ( Any advice, ideas, etc much appreciated.I I've got a call in to our hardware maintainer, but I expect them to be a   bit baffled too.   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:46:13 +0200 ( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>( Subject: Re: An obscure bug in DIRECTORY7 Message-ID: <003301c67ef5$5e322630$994614ac@domina.fom>    Hello,H We have OpenVMS 7.3-1 and the same failure. The error occurs if you omitH the filename, -type and -version. If one of them is present, there is no problem. Best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:51:01 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)0 Subject: Re: Bad-Clients: definitely not working$ Message-ID: <e51395$7b4$1@online.de>  5 In article <447385D9.EA1972DC@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ' <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: L > > However, most folks probably have NORELAY.  And most folks probably wantI > > to use Bad-Clients to stop known spammers.  Requiring Good-Clients is ; > > requiring too much, especially if it is not documented.  > G > The way I see it, having NORELAY disables much of the spam processing 	 > logic.    G Yes, that seems to be the case.  However, the Bad-Clients list is read  H and parsed even if it is NORELAY; it's just that the information is not  used.   J > > I really, really don't want to misconfigure anything such that I am an > > open relay.  > J > If you really do not wish to configure the good clients and relay-zones,D > then perhaops you should forget about smtp.config and focus on SETH > SERVCE SMTP commands (/REJECT will work similarly to the bad-clients).  H I'll look into this.  I also tried SET COMMUNICATION, which also worked.  4 The number of bad clients is different in each case.  ? With the Bad-Clients approach, I get an OPCOM when a bad client G connects; I like to have that information so I can turn it over to the   prosecuting attorney.   ? > > Yes, but how many machines actually need to do SMTP relay?   > H > If you havbe one SMTP server in a lan, you want that SMTP server to beH > able to relay. For instance, when I send from my MAC, the mac connects? > to my vax and my vax then relays the message to the internet.   C Yes, of course.  I still think that MOST VMS machines are not SMTP   relays.   F I did some experimenting last night with a machine which does not haveG the cluster alias.  Things seem to work as you describe.  With NORELAY, F none of the good-clients, bad-clients stuff works (though other things> do, such as symbiont-checks-deliverability).  With RELAY, thenH bad-clients works, but only if I define good-clients.  (I defined it to G a non-existent (on my LAN) non-public network, i.e. just a dummy list.)   I What I want is: reject email to valid recipients if they come from a bad  F client.  I can get this functionality.  However, I can get it only if H RELAY is enabled.  OK, if the good-clients list contains nothing on the H internet, then no-one can misuse my relay, but since this functionality F has nothing to do with relaying, it seems illogical to have to enable G RELAY.  On a similar note, if I am concerned only with bad clients, it  E seems illogical to have to define a good-clients list, especially if  G some dummy entry (say 192.168.2.0/24, which is non-existent on my LAN)   is required.  E The bad-clients list IS parsed if RELAY is not enabled.  Why not use   that information?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 02:13:44 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>+ Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia = Message-ID: <KIqdnVSzc5kHZO7ZRVn-qQ@metrocastcablevision.com>    Neil Rieck wrote:    ...   M > I am always confused when North American execs tell the rest of us that we  O > must all compete in a world market place. Then these same execs change their  O > tune when applying new rules to themselves like "restricting their income to  M > 25 times more than their lowest paid employees", "ensuring that 50% of the  M > board of directors are filled with employees rather than execs", etc. They  # > really want to have it both ways.   : You mean, just like the hoi polloi do?  How ... bourgeois!  E Perhaps it's different outside the good ol' U. S. of A. (I certainly  G hope that it is, for all our sakes), but hereabouts we're increasingly  E inclined to give the finger to the rest of the world (and to our own  D children as well), grab everything we can regardless of the cost to ? others, and embrace the simplistic idea that there's something  C intrinsically superior about an absolutely free-market approach to  > everything (which in international terms tends toward an only A thinly-disguised version of the ever-popular 'might makes right'  I belief).  That is, after all, exactly what the vast majority of us voted  ? for in the last major election (given that a great deal of the  I Democratic platform was merely a 'kinder, gentler' version of the neocon   creed).   F Execs have it both ways because they *can* have it both ways, just as G workers *would* have it both ways (high salaries plus cheap imports of  G all the products they *don't* make) if they could.  In the case of the  I workers, the execs are around to disabuse them of that notion, but since  G stockholders seem for the most part to be asleep at the switch there's  H no one to perform a similar service for execs (who will usually be long B gone before the stockholders experience the consequences of their 
 inattention).   G Of course, that's a good way for a nation to turn from a global leader  D into a third-world backwater when the chickens finally come home to G roost - but the way things are going that might not be such a bad idea  A (and in fact may be considerably better than we deserve), so I'm  G hesitant to decry against it overmuch until such time as I think we've   become worthy of a better fate.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:46:59 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> + Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia , Message-ID: <44740F71.2851ABC1@teksavvy.com>  & re: carly's statements on employement. # 0 Fiorina was reported to proclaim that "There is H no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We all have to compete for  jobs.  #   G While her statement came cross the very wrong way, I think that she was D right on the money. And it is a very serious issue. With developpingG nations starting to be able to produce more than just plastic trinkets, F competition becomes very fierce. Unless developped nations are willingH to compromise on pay and standard of living, there will be a significant+ shift of work to those developping nations.   B Look at one of the premier manufacturer in the USA and the largestF exporter: Boeing. Its new 787 will be built mostly outside the USA andG Boeing ends up doing only final assembly. By shifting work overseas, it C can use lower cost manpower from contractors not bound by expensive > union contracts at Boeing. (and use highly subsidized japaneseE contractors who are not bound by the 1992 agreemenent about subsidies  betwene Boeing and Airbus).     C Boeing brags about the 787 only having to spend 3 days in its final @ assembly plant. That is because the rest will all have been doneE elsewhere. Boeing may brag about it being a great commercial success, - but it isn't such a great employment success.   B Lichtenstein and Monaco may be able to live off investors who liveH there. But a country like the USA is too big to be able to live off only from investments.   C I am no fan of Carly. But she raised a valid point, even though she ) wasn't able to say it in a palatable way.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:36:34 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> + Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia 9 Message-ID: <WyXcg.1354$%Z2.212828@news20.bellglobal.com>   ; "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message  & news:44740F71.2851ABC1@teksavvy.com...( > re: carly's statements on employement. [...snip...] > I > While her statement came cross the very wrong way, I think that she was F > right on the money. And it is a very serious issue. With developpingI > nations starting to be able to produce more than just plastic trinkets, H > competition becomes very fierce. Unless developped nations are willingJ > to compromise on pay and standard of living, there will be a significant- > shift of work to those developping nations.  >   K Like similar remarks about globalization, fat-cat execs promote the "world  I competiton" mantra for only one reason: they increase short term profits  % numbers to justify their own bonuses.    They export jobs to: 1. circumvent local labor laws! 2. circumvent local polution laws   3. circumvent local tax payments  H My original point was if this is one big world of free competition then J North American execs should start to adopt restrictions placed on foreign L execs like wage limits etc. (Japan has a 25 to 1 limit; Germany has a 20 to 0 1 limit; the North Amercian average is 500 to 1)       ###   A On a related note, lawyers have been behind (and supporting) the  M globalization movement until recently when it was discovered that some legal  J work was starting to be out-sourced to India. I'm not saying that Indians K would do a good or bad job of this but the North American lawyers suddenly  L seemed to become very biased (almost racist). Everyone thinks globalization ' is a good idea until it affects "them".   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada." http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:37:59 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> + Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia 9 Message-ID: <gAXcg.1355$%Z2.212896@news20.bellglobal.com>   6 "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in message 7 news:KIqdnVSzc5kHZO7ZRVn-qQ@metrocastcablevision.com...  > Neil Rieck wrote:  >  [...snip...] > < > You mean, just like the hoi polloi do?  How ... bourgeois! > L > Perhaps it's different outside the good ol' U. S. of A. (I certainly hope M > that it is, for all our sakes), but hereabouts we're increasingly inclined  J > to give the finger to the rest of the world (and to our own children as F > well), grab everything we can regardless of the cost to others, and L > embrace the simplistic idea that there's something intrinsically superior C > about an absolutely free-market approach to everything (which in  K > international terms tends toward an only thinly-disguised version of the  I > ever-popular 'might makes right' belief).  That is, after all, exactly  K > what the vast majority of us voted for in the last major election (given  E > that a great deal of the Democratic platform was merely a 'kinder,  ( > gentler' version of the neocon creed). > H > Execs have it both ways because they *can* have it both ways, just as M > workers *would* have it both ways (high salaries plus cheap imports of all  E > the products they *don't* make) if they could.  In the case of the  K > workers, the execs are around to disabuse them of that notion, but since  L > stockholders seem for the most part to be asleep at the switch there's no L > one to perform a similar service for execs (who will usually be long gone L > before the stockholders experience the consequences of their inattention). > I > Of course, that's a good way for a nation to turn from a global leader  F > into a third-world backwater when the chickens finally come home to I > roost - but the way things are going that might not be such a bad idea  L > (and in fact may be considerably better than we deserve), so I'm hesitant G > to decry against it overmuch until such time as I think we've become   > worthy of a better fate. >  > - bill  
 Well said.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada." http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2006 05:24:54 -0700 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk+ Subject: Re: Carly Fiorina bio at wikipedia B Message-ID: <1148473494.059079.112870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  F Wonder how her politics match with Bob Palmer's?  He went into DigitalG and effectively drew to a close the "job for life" culture that Digital # had and Carly did the same with HP.   F They also both screwed their respective companies into the ground.  HP survived though. :o(   ------------------------------    Date: 23 May 2006 23:15:34 -0700# From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de>  Subject: Re: DN-11A Message-ID: <1148451334.884424.11850@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   G Err, please help my failing memory... What again was a DN11 and how was $ it connected (SCSI, Q-bus, massbus)?   Hans   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:41:04 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com> Subject: Re: DN-11* Message-ID: <4eTcg.8806$kR6.4982@trnddc05>   H Vlems wrote:I > Err, please help my failing memory... What again was a DN11 and how was & > it connected (SCSI, Q-bus, massbus)? >  > Hans >   ? It was a Unibus 4-line autodialer.  It had to be connected to a ? special Bell 801 autodialing unit in conjunction with your 103A G (300 baud) modem.  I once wrote a RSTS/E "driver" for it in Basic-Plus. C (The driver used peeks and pokes in a loop with a 1-second sleep to  control it.)  D I think there was a real RSX driver for it.  Can't remember if thereE ever was a VMS driver; IIRC, autodialers that worked directly off the E serial port stream (i.e. Hayes) were starting to become common by the  time VMS originated.  C I think Able made a clone, 4 DN11's on a single quad SPC board, vs. A the original DEC model, a 4-slot backplane with one card for each  dialer.    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:42:45 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) * Subject: Re: Educating potential VMS users[ Message-ID: <rdeininger-2405060642430001@dialup-4.233.149.129.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   G In article <e4vkuu01v91@enews3.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:   * >Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote:@ >> I'm not offering anything.  Well, except for ideas to try and? >> kickstart what's left of VMS.  Why does it seem like I'm the > >> only one left who even cares?  And I am not even one of the1 >> VMS fanatics.  Maybe I'm just wasting my time.  > M >I think the point is, why reinvent the wheel.  The *COMPLETE* VMS Doc Set is K >available online.  It's excellent, and all anyone really needs.  There are M >several good 3rd party books available for new users.  While most are dated,  >they're still usable.  J I think Bill's point is that, for beginners, the doc set is NOT all anyone
 really needs.   I I agree with others that the User's Manual is a good starting point.  But A it's been a LONG time since I was a beginner on VMS, and I may be  forgetting what it was like.  B Also, today's beginners must have a very different background thanC beginners of my day.  The VMS User's Guide hasn't been moderized to 
 reflect that.   I >Personally what I would like to see is the next VMS Doc Set have a "Base J >Base" Doc Set.  I'm not sure about the current set of paper doc's, but inL >the V7.2 time, the "Base" set was the better part of a shelf, and IIRC costL >me $300.  I'd love to see the equivalent of the V5 base set, as I still useI >the main two books from V5 occasionally, even though I'm running V7.3-2.   N What would it cost to print the PDFs of the docs you think should be included?  B I fear the market for printed docs is getting smaller and smaller.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 08:58:49 -0700 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> * Subject: Re: Educating potential VMS users+ Message-ID: <e51vro$q0j$1@naig.caltech.edu>    Robert Deininger wrote:   D > Also, today's beginners must have a very different background thanE > beginners of my day.  The VMS User's Guide hasn't been moderized to  > reflect that.   D Well, in my experience, the "modern user" is incapable of reading a H manual and will quickly abandon any piece of software whose menu system G isn't trivially easy to use.  The "modern user" has not a clue what to   do with a command line.   C Very hard to rewrite a VMS User's Guide for this target audience...    Regards,   David Mathog   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:15:57 +0300 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>* Subject: Re: Educating potential VMS users& Message-ID: <4474244D.5EF1C966@hp.com>   norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > < > bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu wrote on 05/23/2006 09:35:24 AM: > F > > A short time ago we were discussing books (beyond the docset) thatE > > could be useful.  I have sitting ont he desk in front mf me right & > > now a book titled "RSTS/E Primer". > >  > > The Preface starts: I > >      "This primerintroduces the RSTS/E system to people who are using I > >       a computer for the first time.  You will learn to use RSTS/E by I > >       becoming familiar with computer concepts and gaining 'hands on'  > >       experience." > > I > > I think this kind of book would be useful.  As a matter of fact, this J > > coupled with a "Nutshell" book as a desk reference could make a lot ofM > > people who have never used VMS productive in a very short period of time. K > > Once they learn to be productive, all the other advantages of VMS would J > > make a lot more sense and might lead to increased interest in what VMS > > has to offer?  > G > IIRC, there once was a "VMS Users Guide" in the DocSet.  It explained F > about LOGIN, HELP, EDIT (EDT at the time), and other getting startedH > stuff.  It was discontinued, I think because we got too sophisticated. > F I think you might mean "VMS Primer" (or similar title) which IIRC cameA with the  VMS 5-* docset (I definitely remember it as being grey)   5 Anyone have a copy or machine-readable version handy?    Mike   > > < > > So, anybody interested in taking on such a project?  :-) > 3 > Anyhow, that tome might be a good starting-place.  >  > >  > > bill   --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2006 12:17:39 -05004 From: kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt)2 Subject: Re: How to do automated email proccessing3 Message-ID: <CoK7oid9W4N9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <75b42$44734c1d$4367aba2$3195@msgid.meganewsservers.com>, Thomas Wirt <twnews@kittles.com> writes: F > I am looking to take form emails that were sent from a web page and K > process them automatically with a program as they come in.  Ultimately I  I > want to use our home grown applications to process the data from these  K > email forms, to populate fields in our database.  We have never done any  / > automated processing of inbound email before.   A Could you clarify this a bit?  Is someone filling out a form on a 9 website that gets emailed to you?  If you are running the > website, then you could just write the form processing part of> the cgi to do the work work you.  If you are _not_ running the@ website and are just receiving emails that need to be processed,@ then you could do something with the DELIVER freeware package to process incoming email.   H > I seem to remember something in COV about a utility to read these and F > get them into a text form that is easier to work with.  I know that K > there is a mail API, but I am hoping for a simple way to process inbound  H > email in real or near real time without learning any new and possibly I > complicated API.  I have seen the MBU freeware, but I am not sure from  - > the very brief readme if it is what I need.   > MBU is a utility that works with a different type of mailbox.  This isn't a VMS mail utility.    K > I am very interested in how other VMS users are automatically processing  J > inbound email.  I know that there are other ways to get data from a web J > form, but for this project, it would be a big win for VMS if I can find I > a simple, free solution that allows us to take a form email and get it  ; > to a VMS .com or Basic program ready data format quickly.   = It can be done all on VMS.  I've set up a couple of different @ systems to do stuff just like this.  One would take data entered@ into a form on a webpage served by VMS and insert it into a data> file, and send an email to the distribution site so they could= pack and ship the order.  I've also setup a system that would @ take incoming emails that had a confirmation code embeded in the0 text and update a webpage and internal database.  B It is all potentially doable.  The problem that needs to be solved% needs a bit of clarification, though.    ------------------------------    Date: 24 May 2006 09:11:13 -0700- From: "Doug Phillips" <dphill46@netscape.net> & Subject: Re: Results of my straw poll.C Message-ID: <1148487073.250579.291150@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:* > In article <L5Sbg.753$oA6.198@trnddc06>,% > 	John Santos <john@egh.com> writes:  > > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > ; > > Plus, remember my saying I was going to put 7 CD drives B > >> on the box?  It's not just VMS documentation I need to serve. > >> > > 3 > > Who says you need 7 CD drives for the VMS docs?  > E > I didn't say 7 for VMS.  The VMS docs are on two.  But I have other F > docs to serve as well.  And I certainly don't want to have to put up+ > more than one machine to do the same job.  >   E Have you had good luck with CD sharing? How many people do you expect C will need access to the same CD at the same time? My experience has F been that the number of unhappy system users increases proportionately6 with the number of people having to share the same CD.   ------------------------------   Date: 24 May 2006 16:56:59 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Results of my straw poll., Message-ID: <4djhirF1ar3aoU1@individual.net>  C In article <1148487073.250579.291150@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, 0 	"Doug Phillips" <dphill46@netscape.net> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:+ >> In article <L5Sbg.753$oA6.198@trnddc06>, & >> 	John Santos <john@egh.com> writes: >> > Bill Gunshannon wrote:  >> >< >> > Plus, remember my saying I was going to put 7 CD drivesC >> >> on the box?  It's not just VMS documentation I need to serve.  >> >>  >> >4 >> > Who says you need 7 CD drives for the VMS docs? >>F >> I didn't say 7 for VMS.  The VMS docs are on two.  But I have otherG >> docs to serve as well.  And I certainly don't want to have to put up , >> more than one machine to do the same job. >> > G > Have you had good luck with CD sharing? How many people do you expect E > will need access to the same CD at the same time? My experience has H > been that the number of unhappy system users increases proportionately8 > with the number of people having to share the same CD.  B Doesn't anyone read these threads before posting?  I'm not sharingB anything.  The docs are, for the most part HTML and will be servedA by a webserver.  Now, how many people can simultaneously access a B web server?  What is the likelihood they will all ask for the same page at exactly the same time?  C As for sharing CD's.  I do it for installs in the lab all the time. E I can usually do 6-8 machines at the same time using a shared CD with B satisfactory performance.  Once you go beyond that you usually getG hard timeouts before the performance actually drops off.  I would never I recommend sharing CD's in a production environment.  If you need to share G the data with more than one or two users it is much better to just copy  it to disk and share the disk.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 23 May 2006 23:20:29 -0700# From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> 9 Subject: Re: speeding up LAVC with switch instead of hub? C Message-ID: <1148451629.383312.318900@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Phillip,C when you connect the 5305 directly to the DSL router then you might B want to measure performance between the FD and HD settings. I'd beC interested to know if you measure differences. My 5305 lives in the 3 attic and it's too b*y heavy to take it downstairs!  Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:40:57 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com # Subject: Re: VPM_SERVER strangeness 0 Message-ID: <87psi31ldi.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  R helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  H > As I mentioned, SHOW PROCESS/CONTINUOUS shows nothing changing except E > the number of page faults.  Here is the graphical output from SHOW  7 > PROCESS/CONTINUOUS.  It does look rather interesting:  >  > 00000000:         *  > 00080000:  > 00100000:  > 00180000: H > 00200000:                      *            *           *            *G > 00280000:        *            *           *            *            * E > 00300000:       *            *           *            *           * D > 00380000:      *           *            *           *            *B > 00400000:    *            *           *            *           *A > 00480000:   *           *            *           *            * L > 00500000: *            *           *            *           *            *K > 00580000:             *           *            *           *            * I > 00600000:           *            *           *            *           * H > 00680000:          *           *            *           *            *F > 00700000:        *            *           *            *           *E > 00780000:       *           *            *           *            * D > 00800000:     *            *            *           *            *B > 00880000:    *            *           *            *           *A > 00900000:   *           *            *           *            * L > 00980000: *            *           *            *           *            * > 00A00000:  > 00A80000:  > 00B00000: M >   PC: 80001934  State: HIB     DSA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]VPM_SERVER.EXE   # > Page faults continue to increase:   O > 2120014E VPM_SERVER      HIB     15       18   0 00:00:00.02  17876553    107   R I'll bet it is trying to size how much memory it can get so it can avoid having to extend later...      --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.287 ************************                                                                                                                              sk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware. 
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering passive mode; use PORT (198,151,12,104,9,173)& <<< RETR create_freeware_package.comt >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware/create_freeware_package.com (17824 bytes) started.; >>> 226 Transfer completed.  16372 (8) bytes transferred.l/ <<< CWD /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware2= >>> 250 Connected to /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware.d
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering passive mode; use PORT (198,151,12,104,9,174) <<< RETR freeware.comd >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware/freeware.com (1452 bytes) started.9 >>> 226 Transfer completed.  566 (8) bytes transferred.f/ <<< CWD /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware1= >>> 250 Connected to /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware.b
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering passive mode; use PORT (198,151,12,104,9,175) <<< RETR freeware.doc/d >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware/freeware.doc (3694 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  3329 (8) bytes transferred./ <<< CWD /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freewarem= >>> 250 Connected to /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware.b
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering passive mode; use PORT (198,151,12,104,9,176)$ <<< RETR freeware_contributors.txtq >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware/freeware_contributors.txt (9878 bytes) started..: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  9209 (8) bytes transferred./ <<< CWD /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware= >>> 250 Connected to /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware. 
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering passive mode; use PORT (198,151,12,104,9,177)! <<< RETR freeware_copyright.com n >>> 150 IMAGE retrieve of /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware/freeware_copyright.com (5614 bytes) started.: >>> 226 Transfer completed.  4443 (8) bytes transferred./ <<< CWD /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freewared= >>> 250 Connected to /disk$misc/decus/freewarev60/freeware. 
 <<< PASV@ >>> 227 Entering p