1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 09 Oct 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 554       Contents:+ Re: "VMS people can write their own ticket" 0 Re: Cluster uptime - any improvement over this ?4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next weekH Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week)H Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week)H Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week)P Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week) week)we SCSI COnfiguration Re: SCSI COnfiguration  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:51:52 GMT + From: "Villy Madsen" <Villy.Madsen@shaw.ca> 4 Subject: Re: "VMS people can write their own ticket". Message-ID: <IxdWg.109802$5R2.87072@pd7urf3no>  D > Ok, lets say you want to run a business, perhaps a small hamburgerB > stand.  If you want customers, you use the best ingredients and K > preparation.  If you're greedy, you scrape up dog turds off the sidewalk  A > and put them on moldy bread.  Guess the outcome of each option.  >  > GREED DOESN'T WORK!  >  > --  6 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450    4 actually greed does work - and that's the problem...   Greed in a lot of placesG 1)  That legalized gambling system called the stock market tied in with I 2) Corporate "C" level salaries and more importantly bonuese that are in  3 many cases completely out of touch with reality....   L CEO salaries (or more importantly bonuses) seem to be more and more tied in M to stock performance.  The next quarter's performance!  not the next year's,  / or shudder the next decade's stock performance.   ) So how long does the typical CEO last ???   K In other words - if letting go 25,000 employees shows a short term gain in  H profits (or for any other reason is looked up as a postive note by wall M street) it's going to happen.  If, a year or two down the road it causes the  K company untold angst - who cares..  The CEO is probably gone (or soon will  ) be) - and he's already got his big bonus!   M There was some discussion in a paper written by an audit type a while ago on  J this subject.  He pointed out that a CEO's bonus relating to a layoff was F actually larger than the yearly salary of the laid off employees.  He M questioned whether or not the employees had added any value whatsover to the  M corporation.  If they had added value - in any fashion, then the corporation   had lost as a result.   K CEOs typically take a short term view - if they can look like heros in the  & short term - that's all that counts...  @ I am lucky - I work for what is essentially a family controlled K organization.  Decisions may be made that the rank and file wonder about -  G but at least they know that the "C"s are concerned about the long term  L health of the organization - not the size of their next (and probably their  last) bonus.   Villy    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2006 11:50:33 -0700 ( From: "geletine" <adaviscg1@hotmail.com>9 Subject: Re: Cluster uptime - any improvement over this ? B Message-ID: <1160333432.949127.141320@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>  @ i wonder how long the indian railway concert system has been up.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:26:08 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week 9 Message-ID: <JdOdnWoHAY5c3bTYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@libcom.com>   
 AEF wrote:  > > Seriously, you make some good points. My biggest worry about? > terrorists, though, is if they ever get their hands on nukes.   G Sorry to have to increase your worry, but it's a question of when, not  F if.  Pandora's box is open and there's no going back.  Heck, probably H most of the participants in this forum have general knowledge on how to D construct some type of fission device.  That's without specifically G looking, and for those who want to look, all the information is public  F knowledge.  Shortcuts will be available, including buying an existing  weapon.   I If there are people crazy enough to use such a device, and today I think  B there are, then some (hard) lessons from the past may be the only H alternative to a world without anyone crazy enough to use such a device.  G Remember MAD (mutually assured destruction)?  As disgusting an idea as  G ever existed.  But, it worked.  For both the USA and USSR, the reality  ( was, you use it, and you cease to exist.  G Today things aren't so clear cut.  But things appear to be polarizing.  G The major terrorist threats appear to be coming from the muslem world.  G Applying MAD to this problem would be a declaration that if the muslem  F world, or any small part of it, uses a nuke, that world will cease to H exist.  Glow in the dark from Turkey to Indonesia, and a version of the   German death camps for the rest.  E How's that for a totally disgusting thought?  I hate it.  But taking  D emotion out of the issue, the terrorists are coming from somewhere. B Yesterday's 'innocent' children.  Unless you want to suffer their $ actions, you must remove the source.  H Before anyone hits the reply button to tell me what an idiot I am, keep G two things in mind.  1) I don't like the idea.  2) MAD appears to have   worked.   I I'd hope for a better solution, but there must be a solution, because as  $ I mentioned, it's not if, it's when.  E > I once went to a talk by Harlan Ellison and he stunned the audience 7 > into silence by calling Star Wars crap. He was right.   H It seems to me that StarWars started with a young audience as a target, # and each movie lowered that target.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2006 13:25:09 -0700 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>= Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week B Message-ID: <1160339109.179071.145170@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   Neil Rieck wrote: 1 > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message ? > news:1160315922.575301.159520@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  > > Bill Todd wrote: >  > [...snip...] >  > > E > > Star Wars? You've got to be kidding. What a bunch of crap. Veiled H > > references in Star Wars? I haven't seen the more recent ones (I thruK > > III), but any "veiled references" were probably just you thinking about G > > such things while watching the movie.  I have to admit, I did enjoy J > > Star Wars at first, but quickly lost interest while watching Return of
 > > the Jedi.  > >  > I > II and III are way better than the others. In the latest movie, Senator N > Palpatine manipulates the Senate into granting him emergency powers to fightK > the clone war, then later, to become the emperor. Senator Amidala is then L > over heard stating "So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause" >  > > G > > I once went to a talk by Harlan Ellison and he stunned the audience 9 > > into silence by calling Star Wars crap. He was right.  > >  > J > I hold Harlan Ellison in high regard and hope he wasn't referring to theN > last two Star Wars movies. But I have to admit that I always thought of Star= > Wars as a futuristic fantasy rather than a science fiction.   A OK. To be fair to Mr. Ellison: It was long, long ago, but in this D galaxy, not so far, far away! I'm pretty sure I heard him speak whenC there was only one Star Wars movie. Also, I haven't seen the latest G (earliest) three. Maybe they really are good, but I'm not interested. I C ceratinly never thought Mr. Todd would be interested, much less use D anything from them in a serious way. Yes, I can see Mr. Todd and the' wookie hanging out together! ... Right.   - > p.s. he served as a consultant to Babylon 5   C I'll have to check out this "Babylon 5" stuff one day. Of course he D could have been a consultant and been ignored. Look at his Star TrekG episode, "The City on the Edge of Forever": It was supposedly rewritten E by DC Fontana at Roddenberry's request which also, supposedly, pissed 7 off Harlan.  Still, I want to check out this Babylon 5.    >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.# > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    AEF    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2006 22:10:10 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)= Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week + Message-ID: <4otba2Fg9gh5U1@individual.net>   9 In article <JdOdnWoHAY5c3bTYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@libcom.com>, * 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > AEF wrote: > ? >> Seriously, you make some good points. My biggest worry about @ >> terrorists, though, is if they ever get their hands on nukes. > I > Sorry to have to increase your worry, but it's a question of when, not  H > if.  Pandora's box is open and there's no going back.  Heck, probably J > most of the participants in this forum have general knowledge on how to F > construct some type of fission device.  That's without specifically I > looking, and for those who want to look, all the information is public  H > knowledge.  Shortcuts will be available, including buying an existing 	 > weapon.   F Anyone who has had any experience with real nuclear weopons could tellG you they are not as easy to build as the INTERNET tries to make it seem G and onve built they are very fragile devices.  I am amazed that the two E primitive devices dropped over Japan in WWII worked at all, but then, D maybe it was the primitiveness of the devices that made it possible.E A much bigger fear should be what is simply called "a dirty bomb".  A G conventional explosive that scatters nuclear material over a viery wide  area.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:20:05 -0400 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week : Message-ID: <foGdnTTxn_81GrTYnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.com>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:; > In article <JdOdnWoHAY5c3bTYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@libcom.com>, , > 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: >  >>AEF wrote: >> >>? >>>Seriously, you make some good points. My biggest worry about @ >>>terrorists, though, is if they ever get their hands on nukes. >>I >>Sorry to have to increase your worry, but it's a question of when, not  H >>if.  Pandora's box is open and there's no going back.  Heck, probably J >>most of the participants in this forum have general knowledge on how to F >>construct some type of fission device.  That's without specifically I >>looking, and for those who want to look, all the information is public  H >>knowledge.  Shortcuts will be available, including buying an existing 	 >>weapon.  >  > H > Anyone who has had any experience with real nuclear weopons could tellI > you they are not as easy to build as the INTERNET tries to make it seem I > and onve built they are very fragile devices.  I am amazed that the two G > primitive devices dropped over Japan in WWII worked at all, but then, F > maybe it was the primitiveness of the devices that made it possible.G > A much bigger fear should be what is simply called "a dirty bomb".  A I > conventional explosive that scatters nuclear material over a viery wide  > area.  >  > bill >   E I believe that most of the complexity of today's nuclear weapons (at  > least ours) is designed to prevent accidental or unauthorized G activation!  It is not enough, if it ever was, to just chuck it out of  D your aircraft and get the hell out of there.  There are some fairly H elaborate procedures that must be performed in order to make the weapon 	 operable.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 06 19:10:51 EDT ) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook) = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week ! Message-ID: <c0fxvHie5dBS@wvnvms>   i In article <1160339109.179071.145170@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes:  > Neil Rieck wrote: 2 >> "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message@ >> news:1160315922.575301.159520@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > Bill Todd wrote:  >> >> [...snip...]  >> >> >F >> > Star Wars? You've got to be kidding. What a bunch of crap. VeiledI >> > references in Star Wars? I haven't seen the more recent ones (I thru L >> > III), but any "veiled references" were probably just you thinking aboutH >> > such things while watching the movie.  I have to admit, I did enjoyK >> > Star Wars at first, but quickly lost interest while watching Return of  >> > the Jedi. >> > >>J >> II and III are way better than the others. In the latest movie, SenatorO >> Palpatine manipulates the Senate into granting him emergency powers to fight L >> the clone war, then later, to become the emperor. Senator Amidala is thenM >> over heard stating "So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"  >> >> >H >> > I once went to a talk by Harlan Ellison and he stunned the audience: >> > into silence by calling Star Wars crap. He was right. >> > >>K >> I hold Harlan Ellison in high regard and hope he wasn't referring to the O >> last two Star Wars movies. But I have to admit that I always thought of Star > >> Wars as a futuristic fantasy rather than a science fiction. > C > OK. To be fair to Mr. Ellison: It was long, long ago, but in this F > galaxy, not so far, far away! I'm pretty sure I heard him speak whenE > there was only one Star Wars movie. Also, I haven't seen the latest I > (earliest) three. Maybe they really are good, but I'm not interested. I E > ceratinly never thought Mr. Todd would be interested, much less use F > anything from them in a serious way. Yes, I can see Mr. Todd and the) > wookie hanging out together! ... Right.  > . >> p.s. he served as a consultant to Babylon 5 > E > I'll have to check out this "Babylon 5" stuff one day. Of course he F > could have been a consultant and been ignored. Look at his Star TrekI > episode, "The City on the Edge of Forever": It was supposedly rewritten G > by DC Fontana at Roddenberry's request which also, supposedly, pissed 9 > off Harlan.  Still, I want to check out this Babylon 5.   B While he may be a good SF writer, Ellison apparently was unable toA grasp a very basic concept about writing for a TV series set in a E fictional universe:  any story set in such a universe must fit within D the constraints of that universe.  The rewritting was needed to makeE the story fit in the Star Trek universe.  Even with the rewritting it = is considered one of the best (if not the best) TOS episodes.      George Cook  WVNET    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:58:00 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>= Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week G Message-ID: <382dnVGbSNMVDbTYnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>   
 AEF wrote: > Bill Todd wrote:   ...      My biggest worry about? > terrorists, though, is if they ever get their hands on nukes.   D That likely removes any concerns that either of us might have about I excessively agreeing with the other, since that's something that doesn't  E worry me in the slightest.  When my country persists in doing things  D (purportedly in my name, no less) that are both legally and morally A indefensible, after it's had a decent amount of time for its own  I population to bring it to its senses I'm all for outside forces doing so  I by (in words which seem singularly appropriate to apply here) 'any means   necessary'.   H Under the current circumstances, lighting off a modest-sized nuke about I half-way between the Capitol and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue at a time when  D most of our national government was within shouting distance of one I address or the other could easily be construed as being a Good Thing for  H not only the world at large but indeed for our own country (at least if E one takes anything but a very short-term view of things).  While the  A amount of 'collateral damage' would of course be deplorable, the  @ casualty count would likely be comparable to that which we have D inflicted (or may well soon inflict) elsewhere ourselves, so such a D response would not seem 'disproportionate' to me - and would likely G cause our attention to revert to domestic matters for a while, to both  7 the rest of the world's benefit and to our own as well.   I Of course, it would be preferable for multiple reasons for us to fix the  @ situation ourselves, but if we don't (very, very soon) it seems H appropriate that someone else do the job for us - and since the rest of I the world's countries appear to have wimped out in this area, terrorists  G may be our only hope (yes, that's a sad commentary on the state of our  I nation and our world, but just because the reality is unpleasant doesn't  H excuse one from facing it - not when other people are being killed as a , direct result of our attempts to ignore it).   > J >> My daughter asked me to watch the science fiction series Babylon 5 withJ >> her a while ago, and we've just gotten through the first half of seasonI >> 3.  That series of episodes could not be made today:  what was a grim, K >> "1984"-ish fantasy a decade ago would now be seen as highly-inflammatory I >> political commentary (the veiled references in recent Star Wars movies  >> were nothing by comparison).  > & > Star Wars? You've got to be kidding.  0 I'm not much inclined to kid about this subject.     What a bunch of crap. Veiled > references in Star Wars?  ( That's what I said, that's what I meant.  -   I haven't seen the more recent ones (I thru  > III),   D So, as often seems to be the case, you're speaking out on a subject $ about which you're utterly ignorant.   ...   E > I once went to a talk by Harlan Ellison and he stunned the audience ) > into silence by calling Star Wars crap.   G You have to take that statement in the context of the fact that Harlan  F considers himself to be a Serious Writer, rather than an entertainer. ? Serious Writers tend to consider mere entertainment to be crap  D regardless of its merit in that sphere, and conversely may consider H Serious Writing as being worthy regardless of whether anyone would ever = be inclined to read it (i.e., it's The Work that counts - an  % appreciative audience is irrelevant).   G For what it's worth, my impression the first time I saw the first Star  G Wars movie was somewhat similar to Harlan's:  I was looking for really  @ good science fiction, and what I got was futuristic fantasy.  I I eventually learned to appreciate it for what it was rather than for what  E I had originally hoped it would be, and wound up liking it immensely  F (though not as much as Babylon 5, which is much closer to really good > science fiction with a lot more depth in other areas as well).   > He was right.   H No:  Harlan is not always right, just always *certain* - which can have $ a strong influence on the weak mind.   - bill   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 20:08:48 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week ; Message-ID: <452992ec$0$5936$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>   0 "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message < news:1160339109.179071.145170@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >  [...snip...] > . >> p.s. he served as a consultant to Babylon 5 > E > I'll have to check out this "Babylon 5" stuff one day. Of course he F > could have been a consultant and been ignored. Look at his Star TrekI > episode, "The City on the Edge of Forever": It was supposedly rewritten G > by DC Fontana at Roddenberry's request which also, supposedly, pissed 9 > off Harlan.  Still, I want to check out this Babylon 5.  >   J Maybe, but Harlan Elison and J. Michael Straczynski are also good (best?)  friends.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:00:16 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week 9 Message-ID: <VpWdndyjNvb9SLTYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@libcom.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:; > In article <JdOdnWoHAY5c3bTYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@libcom.com>, , > 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
 >> AEF wrote:  >>@ >>> Seriously, you make some good points. My biggest worry aboutA >>> terrorists, though, is if they ever get their hands on nukes. J >> Sorry to have to increase your worry, but it's a question of when, not I >> if.  Pandora's box is open and there's no going back.  Heck, probably  K >> most of the participants in this forum have general knowledge on how to  G >> construct some type of fission device.  That's without specifically  J >> looking, and for those who want to look, all the information is public I >> knowledge.  Shortcuts will be available, including buying an existing  
 >> weapon. > H > Anyone who has had any experience with real nuclear weopons could tellI > you they are not as easy to build as the INTERNET tries to make it seem I > and onve built they are very fragile devices.  I am amazed that the two G > primitive devices dropped over Japan in WWII worked at all, but then, F > maybe it was the primitiveness of the devices that made it possible.G > A much bigger fear should be what is simply called "a dirty bomb".  A I > conventional explosive that scatters nuclear material over a viery wide  > area.  >  > bill >   G I didn't say it would be easy.  I said the general principals are well  H known.  Now it's strictly an engineering problem, and such are solvable.  G Note that a shipping container is a bit easier than an air-drop device.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:37:44 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Q Subject: Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week) , Message-ID: <452999D7.65C3DA24@teksavvy.com>  
 AEF wrote:B > Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when itI > canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again. Even . > so, half-a-million dollars for a model? Wow.  B And Universal seriously underestimated the damage to the Star TrekF franchise a terrible storyline for "Enterprise" could have, elpeciallyB when they allowed it to turn into a Nazi thing. And while the lastF year's producer did an excellent job or trying to rebuild the show, it was too late.   H There is only so much damage that a valuable commodity can take. VMS hasE been taking a beating for over 10 years now. Not sure if it is beyond 5 the point of no return of if it is still salvageable.   E With the loss of engineers at VMS, the best we can hope is slower but G still high quality work. The worse we can hope is quick and low quality 1 junk that will permanently ruin the image of VMS.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 22:07:49 -0400/ From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> Q Subject: Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week) I Message-ID: <8660a3a10610081907n532fe3d8g4156a135bba5da0b@mail.gmail.com>   * ------=_Part_148224_30641288.1160359669434; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Content-Disposition: inline   : On 10/8/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote: >  > AEF wrote:D > > Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when itK > > canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again. Even 0 > > so, half-a-million dollars for a model? Wow. > D > And Universal seriously underestimated the damage to the Star TrekH > franchise a terrible storyline for "Enterprise" could have, elpeciallyD > when they allowed it to turn into a Nazi thing. And while the lastH > year's producer did an excellent job or trying to rebuild the show, it > was too late.  > J > There is only so much damage that a valuable commodity can take. VMS hasG > been taking a beating for over 10 years now. Not sure if it is beyond 7 > the point of no return of if it is still salvageable.  > G > With the loss of engineers at VMS, the best we can hope is slower but I > still high quality work. The worse we can hope is quick and low quality 3 > junk that will permanently ruin the image of VMS.  >   B > Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when itD > canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again.  J Correct me if I'm wrong (and, given the subject matter, I'm sure that I'llH be subjected to Massive Correcting should it be in order) but didn't the original series   A Not Do Too Well In The Ratings, Thus Leading To Its Cancellation?   I And wasn't it only when it went into syndication that it blossomed into a  hit?   WWWebb --   Ajilon Consulting  Site resident at Quest Diagnostics = first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,"COMPRESS").com   * ------=_Part_148224_30641288.1160359669434+ Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Content-Disposition: inline   A<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/8/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">JF Mezei</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com">jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">  AEF wrote:<br>&gt; Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when it<br>&gt; canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again. Even<br>&gt; so, half-a-million dollars for a model? Wow.<br><br> And Universal seriously underestimated the damage to the Star Trek<br>franchise a terrible storyline for &quot;Enterprise&quot; could have, elpecially<br>when they allowed it to turn into a Nazi thing. And while the last<br> year's producer did an excellent job or trying to rebuild the show, it<br>was too late.<br><br>There is only so much damage that a valuable commodity can take. VMS has<br>been taking a beating for over 10 years now. Not sure if it is beyond<br>the point of no return of if it is still salvageable.<br><br>With the loss of engineers at VMS, the best we can hope is slower but<br>still high quality work. The worse we can hope is quick and low quality<br>junk that will permanently ruin the image of VMS.g<br></blockquote></div><br><span class="q">&gt; Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when it<br>&gt; canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again.<br><br>Correct me if I'm wrong (and, given the subject matter, I'm sure that I'll be subjected to Massive Correcting should it be in order) but didn't the original series   <br><br>Not Do Too Well In The Ratings, Thus Leading To Its Cancellation?<br clear="all"></span><br>And wasn't it only when it went into syndication that it blossomed into a hit?<br><br>WWWebb<br>-- <br>Ajilon Consulting<br>q Site resident at <br>Quest Diagnostics<br>first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,&quot;COMPRESS&quot;).com   , ------=_Part_148224_30641288.1160359669434--   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:30:10 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Q Subject: Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week) , Message-ID: <4529C232.ED02EE10@teksavvy.com>   William Webb wrote: C > Not Do Too Well In The Ratings, Thus Leading To Its Cancellation?  > D > And wasn't it only when it went into syndication that it blossomed
 > into a hit?   F If VMS isn't doing too well in sales, do you blame VMS or do you blame1 the lack of marketing and uncompetitive pricing ?   G If NBC decides it isn't interested in that show, it will place it in an + unpopular time slot and not market it much.   D And if NBC doesn't want a popular show to continue, it only needs toH shift its time slot. As soon as it happens, ratings go down and give NBC! and excuse to not renew the show.     F Not sure if te popularity of ST increased while in syndication, but itH would not go away and went on and on and on to a point where they riskedH making a movie after they saw the success of Star Wars in the 1970s. TheH success fo the first movie gave the studios the amunition needed to fundC subsequent movies and eventually the second series to form what was C called the Star Trek franchise. There are rumours that they may try = another TV series. Not sure if it will pan out in the current , environment where studios are avert to risk.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:32:27 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Y Subject: Re: OT: Babylon-5 (was Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week) week)we 9 Message-ID: <JdOdnWUHAY6n37TYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@libcom.com>   
 AEF wrote: > Paul Sture wrote: 
 >> In article @ >> <8660a3a10610080724id266aael18c684be7dddcabb@mail.gmail.com>,4 >>  "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> wrote: >>N >>> Actually, comparing the Fiorina regime to science fiction doesn't seem, to( >>> me,  to be *that* much of a stretch. >>>  >> :-) >>H >> Changing the subject briefly to Star Trek (does this constitute Topic >> Warp?)... >>$ >> "Star Trek sale stuns auctioneers >>I >> A model of the Starship Enterprise has sold for $576,000 (308,000) at A >> an auction of memorabilia from 40 years of the science fiction  >> television series.  >>F >> Before the sale, Christie's auction house in New York estimated the1 >> model would sell for about $30,000 (16,000)."  >> >>2 >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4801631.stm >> >> -- 
 >> Paul Sture  > B > Wow. NBC seriously underestimated the value of Star Trek when itI > canceled it (TOS - The Original Series). And now it happens again. Even . > so, half-a-million dollars for a model? Wow. >  > AEF  >   F Is it the one and only?  That would impart significant value to some. * Others would perhaps be happy with a copy.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2006 22:06:15 -0700 & From: "Mister Q" <pquodling@gmail.com> Subject: SCSI COnfiguration C Message-ID: <1160370375.279464.252670@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E I have managed to drag an old PWS500au, kicking and screaming back to  useful live as a VMS MAchine.   F It was one of those that only booted the IDE CDROM so, I added a KZPDA and RRD4x to get it going...  B It now has two KZPDAs- one for the RRD4x, and one connected to the internal  F I also have a BA364 with a couple of 4GB Drives, and a TLZ06 (although' the internal CD for it has disappears).   1 Question 1. Which SCSI bus should I attach it to.   D Question 2. I have 192 MB memory on this. ouch... This appears to beF PC100 generic PC type memory - what are the constraints about what can be plugged in...     q    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:23:34 -0500 % From: Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org>  Subject: Re: SCSI COnfiguration 5 Message-ID: <slrneijn6m.423.usenet@zappy.catbert.org>   i In article <1160370375.279464.252670@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Mister Q <pquodling@gmail.com> wrote:  > F > Question 2. I have 192 MB memory on this. ouch... This appears to beH > PC100 generic PC type memory - what are the constraints about what can > be plugged in...    C I don't remember details except that an ECC PC133 SDRAM DIMM should  work.    I'm not sure about PC100.   G It's got 6 DIMM slots, and the highest capacity DIMM I know *will* work G is 256 MB for an individual DIMM. So maximum tested/supported memory is  1.5 GB total in the system.   E The DIMMs may look like ordinary PC memory but DEC/Compaq/HP normally G ships ECC memory in their VMS gear. ECC memory is often distinguishable ! by seeing a 9th chip on the DIMM.   F I see two 256 MB PC133 ECC SDRAM DIMMs from a very high quality memoryD vendor (Mushkin) going for about USD $12 each on eBay with a 'Buy It' Now' option and ends in about 22 hours.   9 Island Computers also sells memory and other accessories.   < You'll be very happy if you get 512 MB of RAM in the system.   -Dan   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.554 ************************