1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 13 Oct 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 563       Contents:@ Re: Best way to get my email archive out of VMS and onto my Mac? Re: Bumper stickers for VMS  Re: Bumper stickers for VMS " Re: CQD-223A/TM jumpers and manual. Re: Debugger GUI only working on some machines3 Installing Tcl/Tk V8.0.5 from OpenVMS V8.0 Freeware 7 Re: Installing Tcl/Tk V8.0.5 from OpenVMS V8.0 Freeware  Re: Opteron  Re: PARSEC: SPAMMERS Re: Reading 100 magnetic tapes" VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX& Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX& Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX& Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX& Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX& Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX Re: VMS Support in India VMSMail question Re: VMSMail question Re: VMSMail question Re: VMSMail question Re: VMSMail question Re: VMSMail question We BUY Alpha systems Re: We BUY Alpha systems Re: We BUY Alpha systems Re: We BUY Alpha systems  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 08:09:06 -0700 From: mckinneyj@saic.comI Subject: Re: Best way to get my email archive out of VMS and onto my Mac? C Message-ID: <1160752146.173366.185170@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Dave Spencer wrote:  > [...] [ > So it comes down to two issues. Is somebody aware of a good email client for the Mac that Z > will handle the volume of email that I have? And once I find a client, how on earth am IF > going to transfer all that email off of my VMS box and onto the Mac? >  > Suggestions??  >     0 Regarding the transfer, you might consider this:  T http://groups.google.com/group/vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet/msg/9fab7e7b539fd9ba?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:03:57 +0200 # From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> $ Subject: Re: Bumper stickers for VMS5 Message-ID: <egm6v5$1a4t$1@registered.motzarella.org>   - <tomarsin2015@comcast.net> schreef in bericht < news:1160664751.942238.188550@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Hello D > Maybe I'm dreaming, but I recall sometime ago someone was going toF > offer bumper stickers and other things for us die-hard VMS people. II > have a co-worker that can make bumper stickers,pins,buttons etc, but if 0 > someone has them already I would like to know. > thanks > phil >   K I have a bumper sticker that reads "Celebrating VAX/VMS at 20 nothing stops  it" (Thanks Sue! :-)/ If you like I can scan it and post the picture.    Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:06:16 -0700 From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net$ Subject: Re: Bumper stickers for VMSB Message-ID: <1160748376.312210.313690@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Hello F Thanks for the offer. I already have that bumper sticker. My co-workerE has agree to scan that bumper sticker and make the following stickers  and buttons:& OpenVMS When downtime is not an option OpenVMS Non-stop 24X7 computing @ He said he would also put the VMS shark on the stickers also. If anybody has something 5 else let me know. They should be available by Monday.    H Vlems wrote:/ > <tomarsin2015@comcast.net> schreef in bericht > > news:1160664751.942238.188550@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...	 > > Hello F > > Maybe I'm dreaming, but I recall sometime ago someone was going toH > > offer bumper stickers and other things for us die-hard VMS people. IK > > have a co-worker that can make bumper stickers,pins,buttons etc, but if 2 > > someone has them already I would like to know.
 > > thanks > > phil > >  > M > I have a bumper sticker that reads "Celebrating VAX/VMS at 20 nothing stops  > it" (Thanks Sue! :-)1 > If you like I can scan it and post the picture.  >  > Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 01:04:56 -0700- From: "RomaX MANIAX" <diego.claeys@gmail.com> + Subject: Re: CQD-223A/TM jumpers and manual C Message-ID: <1160726696.689246.247950@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    You are magic !  Many thanks.    Alex Zorrilla wrote:M > Get it from Silicon Image's website.  They are the ones who bought out CMD.  > 4 > http://www.siliconimage.com/support/index.aspx -->* > KnowledgeBase (link on left of page) --> > CMD Systems Products --> > CQD Series >  >  >  > RomaX MANIAX wrote:  > > Hi,  > > C > > can someone provide me the manual or the jumpers settings for a  > > CQD-223A/TM card please. > >  > > Thanks to all. > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:29:08 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> 7 Subject: Re: Debugger GUI only working on some machines J Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-75BFEF.10290813102006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  ; In article <452f0226.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>, 4  martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) wrote:  ! > amelia_airhead@yahoo.com wrote:  > > Jeff wrote: $ > >> amelia_airhead@yahoo.com wrote:K > >> >   Three of us are attempting to use the debugger on our own machines  > >> > and failing.  > >> > > >> > On our own machines: L > >> >   run theProgram.exe - The GUI flashes up on the screen and goes away > >> > immediately.  > >>J > >> I'm sorry to hear you are having trouble. Below are some suggestions. > >> > ...  > >>M > >> > Is there some other log I can find information on why the debugger GUI , > >> > is not saying up on our own machines? > >>L > >> Please temporarily disable the debugger's DECwindows interface and then > >> run your program: > >>' > >>      $ define dbg$decw$display " "  > >>      $ run theProgram > >>H > >> I expect that you will see some additional error messages that willF > >> provide clues to the problem. Please post the results if you need > >> further assistance. > > F > >  I redefined the debug display as you instructed.  It has the sameF > > information as it does on the successful GUI run but finishes with > > the same error:  > > & > >  OpenVMS Alpha version information* > >  %DEBUG-I-INITIAL, Language: ADA, etc.6 > >  %DEBUG-I-NOTATMAIN, Type GO to reach Main program6 > >  %DEBUG-W-NEEDMORE, unexpected end of command line > > H > > and then I'm back at the prompt.  I didn't type "go" so where is the > > second message coming from?  > G > The NOTATMAIN message is someting that you see when there's a runtime F > library initialization routine compiled in (e.g. for C). It's purelyH > informational in that you need to take extra action to reach the entry > point of your program. > B > I'd suspect that the NEEDMORE message comes from an error in theD > (optional) debugger initialization file. Please have a look at theF > value of the logical name DBG$INIT, and if it's defined, look at the$ > commands in the file it points to. >   I Could this be a quota problem? Can you check the user quotas against the  ( system where you _can_ run the debugger?   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 03:30:31 -0700# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> < Subject: Installing Tcl/Tk V8.0.5 from OpenVMS V8.0 FreewareA Message-ID: <1160735431.062032.89580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   @ I'm trying to get tcl and tk from the Freeware V8.0 distributionG installed on my V7.3-2 system. [I should mention that I'm pretty much a ? novice with tcl/tk but have been running VMS systems for 20-odd 0 years--and some of them were very odd indeed :-]  2 Following the instructions on the freeware disk inG [TCLTK]FREEWARE_README.TXT everything seems to build OK, but when I run 7 wish from my user directory USER:[TACKGAL] it tells me:   G         Application initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl  in the following directories:   A         Libtcl.exe ./lib/tcl8.0 ./lib/tcl8.0. ./library ./library ! ./tcl8.0/library ./tcl8.0/library   ?         This probably means that Tcl wasn't installed properly.    And wish exits at that point.   C Using the DCL command SET WATCH FILE/CLASS=(MAJOR,DIR) I can see it D trying to find USER:[TACKGAL]LIBRARY.DIR;1 but I don't have any suchE subdirectory. It apparently doesn't try any other directories at all.   F So I tried setting my default directory to [TCLTK.TCL8_0_5] which doesE have a [.LIBRARY] subdirectory and then ran wish. I got the following  similar error messages:   G         Application initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl  in the following directories:   >         Libtk.exe ./lib/tk8.0 ./lib/tk8.0. ./library ./library ./tk8.0/library ./tk8.0/library   >         This probably means that Tk wasn't installed properly.  @ A small square window appeared. Wish didn't exit but also didn'tE prompt. Typing Ctrl/C back in the DCL window aborted things normally.   B So it looks like tcl and tk may not be following the right path toF their library files, but I don't know how to make them look elsewhere.B A quick look at the C sources for Tk and Tcl initialization didn't clarify things any.    Has anyone else tried this?    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:38:08 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) @ Subject: Re: Installing Tcl/Tk V8.0.5 from OpenVMS V8.0 Freeware3 Message-ID: <b3NRTP3A59iU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <1160735431.062032.89580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> writes: B > I'm trying to get tcl and tk from the Freeware V8.0 distributionI > installed on my V7.3-2 system. [I should mention that I'm pretty much a A > novice with tcl/tk but have been running VMS systems for 20-odd 2 > years--and some of them were very odd indeed :-] > 4 > Following the instructions on the freeware disk inI > [TCLTK]FREEWARE_README.TXT everything seems to build OK, but when I run 9 > wish from my user directory USER:[TACKGAL] it tells me:  > I >         Application initialization failed: Can't find a usable init.tcl  > in the following directories:  > C >         Libtcl.exe ./lib/tcl8.0 ./lib/tcl8.0. ./library ./library # > ./tcl8.0/library ./tcl8.0/library  >   H    It's been years since I installed Tcl on anything, but this a typicalD    bug on lots of free software.  The installation instructions are G    missing a step to define the path where the above should be found.   K    Usuaully looking around for a .COM file that sets this up, or comparing  J    to an older installation is sufficient to reverse engineer the correct     step.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 09:07:41 -0700- From: "Doug Phillips" <dphill46@netscape.net>  Subject: Re: OpteronC Message-ID: <1160755661.317685.146830@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Neil Rieck wrote: 7 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> wrote in message % > news:op.tg9vxilztte90l@hyrrokkin... C > > Might be a good time for VMS Engineering to feed any additional  > > requirements to AMD  > >  > > 0 > > AMD gives deeper peek into quad-core Opteron > >  [...] ) > Similar info but from a different site.  > ) > AMD Unveils Barcelona Quad-Core Details T > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,2027633,00.asp?kc=ETRSS02129TX1K0000532 > G > Note that these buses are 128 bits wide. If memory serves, (some/all) M > Itanium paths are 192 bits wide. So I wonder how much time will pass before 0 > Itanium is officially labelled "no necessary"? >   > Many, like myself, believe that Itanium never was "necessary".   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:03:27 -0700 4 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> Subject: Re: PARSEC: SPAMMERS % Message-ID: <1160755260.820115@smirk>    Laura wrote:  I > I am the Marketing Director and on behalf of PARSEC Group would like to G > formally apology to the VMS community for our invitation appearing as  > spam.   G > There is on opt-out link to remove you from our distribution list and . > the opt-out request is taken very seriously.  A You don't get it, do you?   NOBODY should ever have to opt-out of ? something they did not specifically request!   If you don't use ( CONFIRMED opt-in, then you are spammers.  3 I do not do business with spammers.   End of story.    Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:18:14 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ' Subject: Re: Reading 100 magnetic tapes 3 Message-ID: <Gg9ewltfmRNF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <1160674543.251498.134410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "bclaremont" <msi1@earthlink.net> writes: I > I would try Peter's suggestion of using COPY first.  Mounting the first H > volume in a set Files-11, you might get by with something as simple as > this:  >   E    I would get and use TCOPY instead.  BACKUP does non-standard error B    handling that COPY can't always deal with.  TCOPY can.  I don'tD    recall where I got my copy of TCOPY but if the OP starts with the$    FAQ he should be able to find it.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 06:23:45 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)+ Subject: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX 3 Message-ID: <zdTBgcj6ULg+@eisner.encompasserve.org>   S In article <452e3740$1@mvb.saic.com>, Mark Berryman <mark@theberrymans.com> writes:  > N > Apparently we differ on the definition of a workstation.  All of my current M > workstations support both graphics and sound, including my Alpha VMS based  R > workstation.  To my knowledge, HP is not currently selling any VMS workstations R > with sound capabilities and, as far this customer is concerned, that means that , > they are not selling any VMS workstations. >   I I'm curious about something, even though for me, it's more of an academic  question these days.  B What is the current situation with regards to VMS capable laptops,J especially those with pricing that could be bought for personal/home use ?   Simon.   --  ; Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP K If Google's motto is "don't be evil", then how did we get Google Groups 2 ?    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 05:43:09 -0700  From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>/ Subject: Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX B Message-ID: <1160743389.411052.285880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Simon Clubley wrote:D > What is the current situation with regards to VMS capable laptops,L > especially those with pricing that could be bought for personal/home use ? >   @ running VMS in an emulator on your laptop is your only option at present.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:42:05 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG/ Subject: Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX 0 Message-ID: <00A5D234.4E744D6D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  e In article <1160743389.411052.285880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> writes:  >  >  >  >Simon Clubley wrote: E >> What is the current situation with regards to VMS capable laptops, M >> especially those with pricing that could be bought for personal/home use ?  >> > A >running VMS in an emulator on your laptop is your only option at 	 >present.   I One which provided/supported networking would be ideal... otherwise, it's 
 just a curio.   H However, I have a Sprint EVDO card for my PowerBook which does permit meH to connect to my systems from just about anywhere.   It's the next best  thing to having a VMS laptop.     --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:30:33 -0400 3 From: "Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> / Subject: Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX 6 Message-ID: <041701c6eed4$24b88df0$2802a8c0@CHARONVAX>   >...B >>running VMS in an emulator on your laptop is your only option at
 >>present. > K > One which provided/supported networking would be ideal... otherwise, it's  > just a curio.  >...  F CHARON-VAX, CHARON-AXP and PersonalAlpha all have networking support. F Yesterday I had CHARON-VAX (VMS 7.3) and PersonalAlpha (VMS 8.3) both E running at the same time on my laptop. I have had CHARON-VAX join my  J AXP/IA64 cluster before and I was tempted to try clustering my CHARON-VAX H and PersonalAlpha both running on the same laptop but I ran out of time.     Peter Weaver www.weaverconsulting.ca 9 CHARON-VAX  CHARON-AXP DataStream Reflection PreciseMail     ------------------------------   Date: 13 Oct 2006 14:35:09 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)/ Subject: Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX + Message-ID: <4p9mgtFh0afqU1@individual.net>   6 In article <041701c6eed4$24b88df0$2802a8c0@charonvax>,6 	"Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> writes: >>... C >>>running VMS in an emulator on your laptop is your only option at  >>>present.  >>L >> One which provided/supported networking would be ideal... otherwise, it's >> just a curio. >>...  > H > CHARON-VAX, CHARON-AXP and PersonalAlpha all have networking support. H > Yesterday I had CHARON-VAX (VMS 7.3) and PersonalAlpha (VMS 8.3) both G > running at the same time on my laptop. I have had CHARON-VAX join my  L > AXP/IA64 cluster before and I was tempted to try clustering my CHARON-VAX J > and PersonalAlpha both running on the same laptop but I ran out of time. >    SIMH also supports networking.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:48:37 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG/ Subject: Re: VMS laptops, was: Re: VMS VS LINUX 0 Message-ID: <00A5D245.FB9A992A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  l In article <041701c6eed4$24b88df0$2802a8c0@CHARONVAX>, "Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> writes: >  >  >>... C >>>running VMS in an emulator on your laptop is your only option at  >>>present.  >>L >> One which provided/supported networking would be ideal... otherwise, it's >> just a curio. >>...  > G >CHARON-VAX, CHARON-AXP and PersonalAlpha all have networking support.  G >Yesterday I had CHARON-VAX (VMS 7.3) and PersonalAlpha (VMS 8.3) both  F >running at the same time on my laptop. I have had CHARON-VAX join my K >AXP/IA64 cluster before and I was tempted to try clustering my CHARON-VAX  I >and PersonalAlpha both running on the same laptop but I ran out of time.   D I was under the impression that these "products" were Weendoze only.     --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:29:34 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ! Subject: Re: VMS Support in India 3 Message-ID: <+6BsdaJSRRfu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <1160664088.531490.17450@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "DaveG" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> writes: > H > Didn't suggest that roadmaps were/are legal commitments.  Roadmaps canF > and often do change for a variety of reasons.  And to answer the VAXH > 8.2 comment.  Is it *really* worth the engineering effort?  Is there aI > large enough customer ( not hobbyist ) demand to make worth it for them  > to do?  My guess is no.   H    The 8.2 thing is partly a victim of terminology.  What people runningB    VAXen want, according to HP, is stability.  If HP issues 8.2 toD    replace 7.3, that looks like a major change even if its only someC    VAX 7.3 - Alpha 8.2 compatability fixes.  HP could bundle up all F    of 8.3 and issue it as a patch 7.3-1 and the CIO would think it was,    a small change to his stable environment.  E    VAX 8.2 wouldn't be likley to include any of the things I'd really G    like to have in a major upgrade, like ODS-5, since those things have *    been judged not to fit well in 32 bits.  C    Things I'd like to see in future VMS releases, like an EFS-style I    filesystem (without all the MS bugs and inconsistent management tools) ,    I really don't expect to ever see on VAX.  G    So what's the point?  Was there anything in the VAX 8.2 roadmap that D    any paying cutomer really wants?  I agree with DaveG on this one.  E    But someday there may be a change on Alpha and IA64 that makes 7.3 F    incompatable in a cluster.  When that happens I'd look for at leastC    a patch.  If the VMScluster SPD no longer supports Alpha and VAX H    in the same latest version cluster, then VAX has truely been abandon.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:07:53 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: VMSMail question ; Message-ID: <op.thc5jfdbzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>   < I am away and logging 0.n remotely to a node using ssh I get  	 MAIL> dir , %MAIL-E-NOTEXIST, folder MAIL does not exist  
 MAIL> sho all 8 Your mail file directory is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL].> Your current mail file is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI.  No folder is currently selected.+ The wastebasket folder name is WASTEBASKET. - Mail file DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI *          contains 0 deleted message bytes.   You have 0 new messages.  & You have not set a forwarding address.! You have not set a personal name.  Your editor is TPU.  CC prompting is disabled. * Automatic copies to yourself are disabled.+ Automatic deleted message purge is enabled. & Your default print queue is SYS$PRINT., You have not specified a default print form.0 You have not specified a default signature file.   MAIL> dir/fold9 Listing of folders in DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI $       Press CTRL/C to cancel listing WASTEBASKET   E so what happened to my folders?  How do I recreate MAIL folder. There - appear to lots of messages in that directory.    --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:32:28 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: VMSMail question ; Message-ID: <op.thc6oejgzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>   F On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:27:30 -0700, VAXman- <@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:  L > In article <op.thc5jfdbzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>, "Tom Linden"   > <tom@kednos.com> writes: >> >>? >> I am away and logging 0.n remotely to a node using ssh I get  >> >> MAIL> dir/ >> %MAIL-E-NOTEXIST, folder MAIL does not exist  >> >> MAIL> sho all; >> Your mail file directory is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]. A >> Your current mail file is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI. # >> No folder is currently selected. . >> The wastebasket folder name is WASTEBASKET.0 >> Mail file DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI, >>         contains 0 deleted message bytes. >> >> You have 0 new messages.  >>) >> You have not set a forwarding address. $ >> You have not set a personal name. >> Your editor is TPU. >> CC prompting is disabled.- >> Automatic copies to yourself are disabled. . >> Automatic deleted message purge is enabled.) >> Your default print queue is SYS$PRINT. / >> You have not specified a default print form. 3 >> You have not specified a default signature file.  >> >> MAIL> dir/fold < >> Listing of folders in DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI& >>      Press CTRL/C to cancel listing >> WASTEBASKET >>H >> so what happened to my folders?  How do I recreate MAIL folder. There0 >> appear to lots of messages in that directory. > H > Tom, I log in to my systems all the time with ssh and have no problems > accessing my VMS mail. > H > Perhaps, you should see what DISK$COMMON equivalences to when you have > sshed in.  > K No it is fine.  I am in my home directory.  Seems to me there was a command 7 to repair mail, but being away I am scratching my head.      --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:27:30 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: VMSMail question 0 Message-ID: <00A5D23A.A6B85A2B@SendSpamHere.ORG>  a In article <op.thc5jfdbzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:  >  > = >I am away and logging 0.n remotely to a node using ssh I get  > 
 >MAIL> dir- >%MAIL-E-NOTEXIST, folder MAIL does not exist  >  >MAIL> sho all9 >Your mail file directory is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]. ? >Your current mail file is DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI. ! >No folder is currently selected. , >The wastebasket folder name is WASTEBASKET.. >Mail file DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI+ >         contains 0 deleted message bytes.  >  >You have 0 new messages.  > ' >You have not set a forwarding address. " >You have not set a personal name. >Your editor is TPU. >CC prompting is disabled.+ >Automatic copies to yourself are disabled. , >Automatic deleted message purge is enabled.' >Your default print queue is SYS$PRINT. - >You have not specified a default print form. 1 >You have not specified a default signature file.  >  >MAIL> dir/fold : >Listing of folders in DISK$COMMON:[USER.TOM.MAIL]MAIL.MAI% >      Press CTRL/C to cancel listing  >WASTEBASKET > F >so what happened to my folders?  How do I recreate MAIL folder. There. >appear to lots of messages in that directory.  F Tom, I log in to my systems all the time with ssh and have no problems accessing my VMS mail.  F Perhaps, you should see what DISK$COMMON equivalences to when you have	 sshed in.    --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:50:15 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: VMSMail question ; Message-ID: <op.thc7h1rwzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>   K On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:41:09 -0700, leslie <LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM>    wrote:  $ > Tom Linden (tom@kednos.com) wrote: > E > : No it is fine.  I am in my home directory.  Seems to me there was E > : a command to repair mail, but being away I am scratching my head.  > :  >   > For older systems running UCX: >  >   $ ucx analyze mail /repair > 4 > --Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own); >   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email   I Ah, yes, tcpip, but I am running MX as my smtp server, would that matter?   B BTW,  using Outlook 2003 it keeps prompting me for user and passwd) saying server rejected.  What a nuisance.        --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:41:09 GMT + From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie)  Subject: Re: VMSMail question 6 Message-ID: <9ANXg.46982$DU3.759@tornado.texas.rr.com>  " Tom Linden (tom@kednos.com) wrote:  D : No it is fine.  I am in my home directory.  Seems to me there was C : a command to repair mail, but being away I am scratching my head.  :    For older systems running UCX:     $ ucx analyze mail /repair  2 --Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own)9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:18:47 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: VMSMail question ; Message-ID: <op.thc8tlbczgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>   F On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:50:15 -0700, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:	 OK, I ran    tcpip anal mail/repair then   HAFNER> mail   You have 4 new messages.  	 MAIL> dir , %MAIL-E-NOTEXIST, folder MAIL does not exist  
 MAIL> dir/new " %MAIL-W-NONEWMAIL, no new messages  E Now it occurred that since I run all 5 nodes in the cluster and run   
 loadbrokerK I really should run this under sysman.  Doing so, it only ran on three of    the L nodes, can't explain why, running it manually on one of the omitted nodes,   Freja  cleared the problem    so I did sysman> set e/c ! sysman> do tcpip anal mail/repair   i ┌───────────────────────┬─────────┐ ) │        SYSTEMS        │ MEMBERS │ i ├────────┬──────────────┼─────────┤ + │  NODE  │   SOFTWARE   │  STATUS │ i ├────────┼──────────────┼─────────┤ . │ HAFNER │ VMS V7.3-2   │ MEMBER  │ran2 │ HERMES │ VMS V7.3     │ MEMBER  │VAX ran) │ NORNS  │ VMS V7.3-1   │ MEMBER  | + │ FREJA  │ VMS V8.2     │ MEMBER  │ . │ ODIN   │ VMS V8.3     │ MEMBER  │rani └────────┴──────────────┴─────────┘   H Haven't this problem before, but going to blame it on Outlook 2003 on my
 new laptop   --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:53:37 -0400 < From: "Island Computers, D B Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> Subject: We BUY Alpha systems 0 Message-ID: <12iv6j5fq8eed00@news.supernews.com>  H As you all probably are aware we sell a wide variety of current and last generation Alpha systems  @ We currently (and always) are looking for the following systems:      Alphaserver DS10L 617Mhz Systems# Alphaserver DS20e Systems (833/667) # Alphaserver DS25 systems (all type) $ Alphaserver ES40 Systems (all types). Alphaserver ES45 System all type 1B, 2, 2B, 3B Alphaserver ES47/ES80 all types   H If you are decommisioning any of these systems now or in the near future" please call us at the number below or email/fax asap    Thanks       --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X251  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@islandco.com Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html    ------------------------------   Date: 13 Oct 2006 14:39:46 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)! Subject: Re: We BUY Alpha systems + Message-ID: <4p9mpiFh0afqU2@individual.net>   0 In article <12iv6j5fq8eed00@news.supernews.com>,? 	"Island Computers, D B Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> writes: J > As you all probably are aware we sell a wide variety of current and last > generation Alpha systems > B > We currently (and always) are looking for the following systems: >  > " > Alphaserver DS10L 617Mhz Systems% > Alphaserver DS20e Systems (833/667) % > Alphaserver DS25 systems (all type) & > Alphaserver ES40 Systems (all types)0 > Alphaserver ES45 System all type 1B, 2, 2B, 3B! > Alphaserver ES47/ES80 all types  > J > If you are decommisioning any of these systems now or in the near future$ > please call us at the number below > or email/fax asap   " What!!  No AS2100 or VAX 7000-640?   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2006 08:05:53 -0700  From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>! Subject: Re: We BUY Alpha systems B Message-ID: <1160751952.367773.249310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  C I would love to be working on hardware as new as that and certainly # would not be wanting to sell it :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:46:45 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ! Subject: Re: We BUY Alpha systems ; Message-ID: <op.thc9370yzgicya@murphus.larkspurlanding.com>   C On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:05:53 -0700, Ian Miller <ijm@uk2.net> wrote:   E > I would love to be working on hardware as new as that and certainly % > would not be wanting to sell it :-)  > ? If interested in ES40 write me offline, but it is in California      --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.563 ************************                                                          t$(item_line$, 2, " ")           menu_find_item_desc (           if  _error  then  exit routine!           item_desc$ = proc(desc)          end routine       I         !%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 9         ! M E N U _ I T E M _ I T E M _ W I T H _ N A M E I         !%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 	         ! 8         ! Process a $ITEM command in the following form:	         ! )         !       $ITEM <item-id> item-name 	         !  