1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 17 Oct 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 570       Contents:+ Re: DS10L hanging problem, tracking it down ) Re: F$getdvi Multipath for version V7.3-2 4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week4 Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week/ Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input / Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input / Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input / Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input / Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input  Request for kit  Re: Request for kit  Re: Request for kit  Re: Request for kit  Re: Request for kit  Re: Request for kit " SimH VAX emulation with throttling" Technology Forum session documents& Re: Technology Forum session documents  Re: VAX 6000 still doesn't start RE: VMS is younger than Windows  VMS stuff available now   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 22:13:44 -0700( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>4 Subject: Re: DS10L hanging problem, tracking it downB Message-ID: <1161062024.223625.227660@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   Rich Jordan wrote:% > Island Computers, D B Turner wrote: , > > Sounds like a power supply problem to me1 > > We have seen this several times when it was.. ' > > We have them in stock for about $89  > >  > > DT > >  > > -- > >  > > David B Turner > > Island Computers US Corp > > 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 > > Savannah GA 31404  > > Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 > > Cell: 912 447 6622 X251  > > Fax: 912 201 0402   > > Email: dbturner@islandco.com  > > Web: http://www.islandco.com) > > ===================================== @ > > All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions2 > > of sale. These should be read before ordering.) > > http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html  > > 7 > > "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote in message @ > > news:1161011739.609266.40150@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > My DS10L is misbehaving. > > > B > > > DS10L 6/466, 1GB memory (compatible, not Compaq), KZPBA SCSIJ > > > controller, Quantum Viking II 4.5GB UWSE drive, attached BA364 tower( > > > with two UWSE disks and one CDROM. > > > ) > > > OpenVMS V8.2, patched up to 6/2006.  > > > J > > > The system ran completely reliably  for months.  About 3 weeks ago IM > > > found it not responding, though I could still get into the RMC from the E > > > console.  Rebooted, ran about a week then hung again.  Each run K > > > interval got shorter until now it will sometimes stay up less than 30 J > > > minutes after a long powerdown; a simple powercycle will usually not4 > > > get all the way through a boot before hanging. > > > K > > > A temp monitor run when VMS is up shows system temp at 26C after long G > > > powerdown, and peaking at 40C during mid day when the room is the J > > > warmest.  The system has plenty of open ventilation space, and has a@ > > > small desk fan blowing at its front panel (unchanged since > > > installation). > > > L > > > There are no error messages, no crash, no log entries.  It just stops.M > > > RMC is still accessible, but performing a reset has only worked once to G > > > reboot; usually a power cycle is required to even get to the SRM. L > > > Front panel HALT, console BREAK and console CTRL-P do nothing when itsJ > > > in this state (CTRL-P definitely halts the system when its operating > > > normally). > > > F > > > I had one test where I was in SRM, not having booted yet, and itG > > > stopped responding, so I'm pretty sure its system hardware, not a I > > > problem with the SCSI controller or drives.  Further testing needed $ > > > there since it was a one-shot. > > >  > > > Work done so far: 0 > > > - ran without external drives (still hung)M > > > - pulled and reseated SCSI card and memory (both risers and DIMMs) with  > > > static protection L > > > - removed heat sink to verify (after seeing pics of overheated units);L > > > the CPU and heat sink looked fine but the grafoil pad was wrinkled andL > > > twisted around the studs a bit.  I pulled it, cleaned the surfaces and1 > > > used a high quality thermal grease instead. M > > > - verified all fans are operating, and the little flexible air dams are  > > > properly located.  > > > L > > > The system is still hanging after a short period of operations.  Still  > > > no errors or log messages. > > > L > > > Next test will be to pull the SCSI controller and just play with it atM > > > SRM level to see what happens.  The POST does pass, a memory test seems L > > > to pass.  No memory errors were logged at VMS level.  I'll run as many: > > > tests as possible at the SRM level as soon as I can. > > > M > > > This is a hobby system, so no support contract.  Thanks for any advice.  > > > 
 > > > Rich > > >  >  > David,I >      thanks for responding.  That was further down on my test schedule; B > I think we have a spare DS10 power supply so I should be able toF > test/verify it; I can also check output voltages and see if anythingC > obvious shows up.  If thats the problem I guess I'll be in touch.  >  > Rich  B Followup.  I pulled the SCSI card, and the system locked up in SRMC doing the system test.  I pulled the power supply and opened it up; G nothing obvious, no overheated components or swollen caps.  Reinstalled  it and got the same results.  B Sigh... power supply is probably it.  The last thing I'm trying isD plugging it into an AVR UPS and boost the output voltage a bit since the APC its on is a cheap POS.  0 Replacing it will have to wait till next payday.   Rich   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:04:17 -0500. From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)2 Subject: Re: F$getdvi Multipath for version V7.3-2, Message-ID: <vMfTLluyiVpT@cuebid.zko.hp.com>  ( "Hal Kuff" <halkuff@verizon.net> writes:N > Yea, was hoping it was undocumented but in 8.x .. we will be upgrading soon O > in any case... Thanxs.! (By all means send the dcl to kuff at tessco dot com  2 > as an extension of *.hhk as we strip .com files)  J There are no undocumented $getdvi item codes, per se.  There are, however,C item codes that first appeared in V8.2 (for example) that also work J in V7.3-2 by means of various patch kits, even if those item codes did not ship as part of V7.3-2.     F I'm in the process of doing a large backport effort such that all itemC codes that work on V8.3 will also work on V7.3-2, V8.2, and V8.2-1.   M While there will no updated language-specific DVIDEF module that contains the L new item codes, simply extracting them from a V8.3 system and inserting them on an older system will work.   2 There may be a few (nice) surprises in there . . .   --    H Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 18:48:30 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>= Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week B Message-ID: <1161049710.580201.17570@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Bill Todd wrote: > AEF wrote: > > Bill Todd wrote: > >> AEF wrote:  > >>> Bill Todd wrote: > >>>> AEF wrote:  > >> ... > >>4 > >>>>   I haven't seen the more recent ones (I thru
 > >>>>> III), J > >>>> So, as often seems to be the case, you're speaking out on a subject+ > >>>> about which you're utterly ignorant. K > >>> Hmmmm, Google reports I made 1771 posts, 1642 of them in comp.os.vms. . > >>> Now just how many of them have you read?K > >> Enough to justify my use of 'often' above:  as I said before, I almost ( > >> invariably mean exactly what I say. > >>B > >> I've read fewer of your posts as time went on, of course:  myL > >> inclination to read posts which I consider likely to be a waste of timeG > >> has limits, and, as you point out, you do babble rather copiously.  > > H > > I try to help people in cov with VMS problems when I can, and I haveJ > > often done so. People have even explicitly thanked me for helping them > > with their problems. > G > Well, I guess it's nice for you that *some* of your contributions are  > appreciated.  F I try to help when I can, and learn when I can, re comp.os.vms. When IE post in error, I am often the first to post a correction (even you've  done that, to your credit).   * >   You, OTOH, concentrate on off-topic or > > somewhat-off-topic stuff > C > Oh, really?  I guess VMS's (and its platform's) viability and the H > credibility of its vendor must not qualify as 'on-topic' in your book,  F Well, yes and no. I always thought the primary purpose of cov was as aE technical group. It certainly was in the mid-90's when Carl J. Lydick C did battle with I forget whom and apparently there was a claim made F that the posts in this battle were off-topic for a technical group. SoA Carl would give his usual insulting rant followed by a gratuitous B techincal example. Maybe I'll try to hunt it down on Google GroupsF later, but such searches often yield long threads and then you have toD hunt manually for the particular post. I believe one of his examples involved a DECnet object.   H > despite the fact that they're arguably of far more significance to the3 > readers here than most of your own contributions.   E Significance to what YOU find important. And why should anyone listen C to you anyway? And even if you're right, so what? Someone who needs C techincal help with a VMS problem isn't terribly insterested in the D Curly and Carly show, or how fast this chip is, or how hot that chipG runs, and such. It seems to me that you're making generalizations based  on not much.  H > Or perhaps it's just one more incompetent generalization on your part.   Or perhaps not.    > . >   and I don't recall you helping anyone with, > > real VMS problems, or at least not much. > I > Perhaps you just haven't read enough - funny how you just suggested the J > same of me, despite my far less general comment about the nature of your > contributions here.    Which general comment?  G Any posts you made that helped people with techincal problems involving F VMS I applaud. I think I did see a few, but most of your posts seem to0 be of the Carly/Curly/Itanic/Power/etc. variety.   >   >   So you've probably only readE > > my posts on off-topic posts, which are a small fraction of all my 
 > > posts. > G > I covered that in my other post - too bad you don't seem to have read  > (or at least understood) it.  E I took a quick look yesterday. Haven't had time to read it in detail.  Maybe I'll look at it later.   > > J > > Anyway, I just looked up YOUR profile: all groups: 5026 posts. Post inI > > cov: 2835. So who's babbling copiously now, bub? You've posted almost # > > twice as many as I have in cov.  > 9 > Indeed - the obvious difference is that I don't babble.   : Your opinion. But you certainly win in the "copious" dept.  L > >>> I still find it hard to take Star Wars seriously. No, I didn't see allK > >>> 6 movies (I saw the first (last) three), but I've read about them and E > >>> heard about them and I've decided I'm not missing much. I think ) > >>> "utterly ignorant" is a bit strong. M > >> No, but perhaps I could have quoted a bit more of your drivel to make it % > >> clearer what I was referring to:  > >>L > >> "Veiled references in Star Wars? I haven't seen the more recent ones (IK > >> thru III), but any "veiled references" were probably just you thinking 1 > >> about such things while watching the movie."  > >>J > >> So you made a to all appearances completely baseless assumption aboutJ > >> the content of a film about which you were, AFAICT, truly and utterly< > >> ignorant at the applicable level of detail.  Clear now? > >  > > I said "probably". > C > So what?  This hardly negates your willingness to generalize with   > absolutely zero factual basis.  A Nonsense. Even people who LIKE Star Wars admit episode one sucked G donkey kong. They also generally say that IV and V are the best, though F I think someone in this thread favored IV and VI. I've read reviews ofC them. I've had personal experience with a coworker who saw the last  release 4 times in 24 hours!  5 Hardly zero. Go ahead, explain to me how that's zero.   ? OK, you said "factual basis". Well, it depends what you mean by F "factual". Regardless, I'm certainly not basing my opinion on nothing.C It is *fact* that people held these opinions. It is *fact* that the D coworker saw the last release 4 times in 24 hours (or some similarly ridiculous rate).   G Anyway, if these veiled references are so good, let's see them! Does it 0 involve the wookie? Does it involve "The Force"?   > 7 > > It is well known that people like to be right about G > > things and that they tend to sop up even the slightest evidence, or J > > what appears to be evidence, supporting their views and tend to ignore& > > evidence that refutes their views. > F > Really?  Care to cite something specific, rather than spout yet moreE > vacuous generalizations?  And having done so, care to cite specific    I already did in my last post.  I > evidence that this particular generalization (even if you can find some F > actual data to back it up rather than just what you've pulled out of5 > your arse tonight) applies in the current instance?    The fact that Star Wars sucks.   > I'm not 'people', jerk:   B Ah, we're getting back to name-calling. If your argument is reallyF sound, you don't need name-calling. You had a good point against Kerry> recently about that article he posted, and you didn't need theC name-calling. But you seem to need it here! [BTW, I consider VMS on C Integrity a big advantage, but that's just my opinion, and I didn't / comment because you already had admitted that.]   / > I'm an individual.  In case you never had the C > benefit of formal education in statistics, they apply only to the B > average behavior of groups, not to specific individuals in them.  @ Oh, come on. Why do you make it so easy? Insurance companies useD statistics to set rates FOR INDIVIDUALS ALL THE TIME. Also, the factD that I used "statistics" is why I said *probably*. Probably means it could be so or not.    > # >   Just like with people measuring I > > their mileage at various speeds, which YOU brought up. Hey, we agreed  > > there too! > > K > > You appear to be equating "probably" with "definitely". They're not the 	 > > same.  > G > It's the willingness to generalize incompetently that's your problem, A > idiot - not whether you throw in a mealy-mouthed qualification.   F Ah, more name-calling. Good arguments don't need name-calling, and I'm6 not going to stoop to that low level if I can help it.   >  > > K > >>>>> I once went to a talk by Harlan Ellison and he stunned the audience / > >>>>> into silence by calling Star Wars crap. M > >>>> You have to take that statement in the context of the fact that Harlan L > >>>> considers himself to be a Serious Writer, rather than an entertainer. > >>> [...]  > >>>>> He was right. N > >>>> No:  Harlan is not always right, just always *certain* - which can have+ > >>>> a strong influence on the weak mind. I > >>> Hmmm. Check you're reading skills. I didn't say "always". Check it. L > >> No, you didn't.  And therefore, of course, I in no way claimed that you0 > >> did:  check your own reading skills, idiot. > > 6 > > Let's look at that again in slow motion, shall we? > >  > >     Me: He was right. , > >     You: No: Harlan is not always right. > > I > >> I simply claimed that Harlan was wrong, despite (characteristically) F > >> being unequivocal in his expression (and then made a reference toJ > >> suggest why you might have found his assertion credible and worthy of > >> citation).  > > . > > The "No" is clearly refuting my statement, > ) > Well, at least you got that part right.  >  >   the colon in this context D > > means "introduces a clause or phrase that explains, illustrates,C > > amplifies, or restates what has gone before" [Webster Collegate B > > dictionary, 9th edition] which means my interpretation is more# > > consistent with what you wrote.  > F > Not at all:  as I already explained, it 'amplified' my refutation byF > serving up a possible explanation for why you felt that he was right  C Well, not quite. Amplified would be something like "very right" vs. F "right". That is "amplification". What you did was amplify the *scope*F of the comment. That's not the same thing. I suppose reasonable peopleC could disagree on whether your interpretation is reasonable or not.   B Anyway, you clarified it in your next post. But still, *no one* isD always right. So you're just stating the obvious. Even Einstein made	 mistakes.   F > (he's a very persuasive speaker and you're not all that bright - you  E LOL!  The truth is I didn't belive him at the time, but years later I  came to see it his way.   G > really should have quoted the entire sentence above, since that makes # > the entire thought pretty clear).    OK, here's more of it:    >>> He was right.J >> No:  Harlan is not always right, just always *certain* - which can have' >> a strong influence on the weak mind.   E No, it still doesn't change it for me. Maybe your response was proper E use of the colon, but my personal opinion is that it isn't. The point C belongs on alt.english.usage. I shouldn't have brought it up like I @ did, but it's too late now. I added more to it than I needed to.  C All right, reasonable people could disagree on this. Let's move on.   G I brought up Harlan partly as an interesting thing, but also in part to F support my case. But I never offered him as an absolute authority. YouE seem to be excluding the strong, but not absolute-support possiblity: G either Harlan's opinion is absolutely correct or absolutlely worthless. 5 You appear to be exlcluding the gray area in between.   * >   You now say you meant otherwise. Fine," > > but that's not what you wrote. > J > It is, as usual, *exactly* what I wrote:  read it again and for once try5 > to keep your own preconceptions out of the picture.  >  > - bill  / In conclusion: Why should anyone listen to you?    AEF    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:04:24 -0400 / From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> = Subject: Re: Heads up: La Fiorina's book coming out next week I Message-ID: <8660a3a10610162004t18ed6896p7b720da1809c80fd@mail.gmail.com>   ; On 10/10/06, William Webb <william.w.webb@gmail.com> wrote: 8 > On 10/10/06, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote: > > John Santos wrote: > >  > > ...  > > 4 > > > "Everyone has something to hide."  - Sam Spade > > * > > "Everybody lies."  - Michael Garibaldi > >   > > (We're now into season 5...) > > 
 > > - bill > >  >  > E > "man is conceived in sin and born in corruption and he passeth from D > the stink of the didie to the stench of the shroud. There's always > something" > + > Robert Penn Warren-- "All The King's Men"  > F > --A statement so universal in its descriptiveness as to be timeless.2 > I committed it to memory when I read the book.-- > 3 > (and no, I haven't seen the remake.   Nor will I)  >  > WWWebb > -- > Ajilon Consulting  > Site resident at > Quest Diagnostics ? > first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,"COMPRESS").com  >   0 Talk about a lowering of the level of discourse!  D Ellison calling "Star Wars" crap gets five hundred posts and a flame/ war; a literary citation goes uncommented upon.   @ (But if I argue with you, I *must* take up a contrary position.)   WWWebb --   Ajilon Consulting  Site resident at Quest Diagnostics = first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,"COMPRESS").com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:55:52 -0400 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>8 Subject: Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input* Message-ID: <4533b999@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  H Heck, it isn't much work to write a small C program that uses getc() and lib$set_symbol.       4 "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com> wrote in messageB news:7dd80f60610160917p61d56b2djf5f79731fc0ba2f5@mail.gmail.com...9 > On 16 Oct 2006 08:43:46 -0700, apogeusistemas@gmail.com # > <apogeusistemas@gmail.com> wrote: 
 > > Hi folks:  > > 1 > > I need create a command procedure  like this:  > >  > > $ @reading_tapes > > ( > >    Please enter tape number:  ______ > > 0 > >    Please tape tag data:____________________ > >  > > $  > > D > > I want limit in 6 numerical characters tape number input, with a" > > underscored line (like above). > G > You can't limit the number of characters input directly with DCL, but H > you can put logic in the procedure to reject a string that is too long. > and reprompt or truncate it to 6 characters.E > You can also check whether the input is numerical or not. Check the @ > help on the lexical functions f$type, f$length, and f$extract. >  > Ken    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 12:10:02 -0700- From: "Doug Phillips" <dphill46@netscape.net> 8 Subject: Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure inputA Message-ID: <1161025802.633119.66350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:  > Rob Brown wrote:7 > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:  > > K > > > Thanks, I'll do. But, is there any way to put an underscore in prompt  > > > using DCL ?  > > > Like this: > > > & > > > Please, enter tape number:______ > >  > > Something like this: > >  > >      $ bs[0,8]=8; > >      $ pstr = "Enter number:  ______"+bs+bs+bs+bs+bs+bs . > >      $ read/prompt="''pstr'" sys$input num  3 Try using   $ read/prompt="''pstr'" sys$command num    instead of sys$input   > >      Enter number:  ______ > >  > >  > > -- > > + > Running this procedure nothing happens...   ; Something did happen .... you just didn't see it happen ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:20:36 -0400 , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>8 Subject: Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input* Message-ID: <4533db7f@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:  > Rob Brown wrote: ...  >>      $ bs[0,8]=8 : >>      $ pstr = "Enter number:  ______"+bs+bs+bs+bs+bs+bs- >>      $ read/prompt="''pstr'" sys$input num  >>      Enter number:  ______  ... + > Running this procedure nothing happens...       Try the following command:   -       $ read/prompt="''pstr'" sys$command num   J    If you are operating within a command procedure, sys$input is the next N command, or any data embedded in the command stream.  If you're executing the : command interactively, the sys$input path is the terminal.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:39:55 -0400 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> 8 Subject: Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input: Message-ID: <mfGdnbf9b_fbl6nYnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com>   apogeusistemas@gmail.com wrote:    > Hi folks:  > / > I need create a command procedure  like this:  >  > $ @reading_tapes > & >    Please enter tape number:  ______ > . >    Please tape tag data:____________________ >  > $  > B > I want limit in 6 numerical characters tape number input, with a  > underscored line (like above). >  > 
 > Regards. >   E You can certainly prompt in that fashion if the user will be using a  D VT100/200/300/400/500 family terminal.   You would write the prompt H followed by the necessary VT100 escape sequences to position the cursor I at the first underscore, then issue your read.  Or do the whole thing as   a READ /PROMPT.   9 If you like, I will write it for you; $60 US, in advance!    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:35:58 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 8 Subject: Re: Limiting 6 characters in an procedure input9 Message-ID: <epSdnR9WNZTz0KnYnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@libcom.com>    FredK wrote:J > Heck, it isn't much work to write a small C program that uses getc() and > lib$set_symbol.   C And even better if done with BASIC, which handles the strings much   better.  :-)  ! Let the language wars begin anew.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:14:44 -0700  From: "Mike" <mlpoole@gmail.com> Subject: Request for kitC Message-ID: <1161033284.196323.236300@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi,   D I am in desperate need of the DECPrint Supervisor (DCPS) version 2.5 .pcsi   G I run OpenVMS 7-3_2 on an Alpha DS10 and our small company can't afford + the entire SPL CD kit for this one product.   : Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction?   Thanks so much!    mikep_at_hkusa-dot-com   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:40:30 -0700 From: bob.birch@gmail.com  Subject: Re: Request for kitA Message-ID: <1161034829.940917.9460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Mike wrote:  > Hi,  > F > I am in desperate need of the DECPrint Supervisor (DCPS) version 2.5 > .pcsi  > I > I run OpenVMS 7-3_2 on an Alpha DS10 and our small company can't afford - > the entire SPL CD kit for this one product.  > < > Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction? >  > Thanks so much!  >  > mikep_at_hkusa-dot-com  * I have brand new in white box, never used:   Printserver SW OVMS/VAX 5.0                     QA-0V9AA-H5!   DECprint Supervisor for OpenVMS &   bunch manuals, two TK50 tapes, no CD   One TK50 tape is labeled: ,     AQ-HQ070-01 . l01  Printsvr SUP VMS V5.0   Other TK50 tape labeled:'    AQ-PUM30-01  .C01 DECprint Supv 1.0C   , Not being a software weenie, I'm not sure if this is what you need ;-)    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 14:46:58 -0700  From: "Mike" <mlpoole@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Request for kitA Message-ID: <1161035218.409609.61900@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   B It sounds like this one is for VAX, but I need the AXP version.  I appreciate it very much though!   4 I love this group!  I wish I had found it earlier...       bob.bi...@gmail.com wrote:
 > Mike wrote:  > > Hi,  > > H > > I am in desperate need of the DECPrint Supervisor (DCPS) version 2.5	 > > .pcsi  > > K > > I run OpenVMS 7-3_2 on an Alpha DS10 and our small company can't afford / > > the entire SPL CD kit for this one product.  > > > > > Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction? > >  > > Thanks so much!  > >  > > mikep_at_hkusa-dot-com > , > I have brand new in white box, never used: >   Printserver SW OVMS/VAX 5.0   >                    QA-0V9AA-H5# >   DECprint Supervisor for OpenVMS ( >   bunch manuals, two TK50 tapes, no CD >   One TK50 tape is labeled: . >     AQ-HQ070-01 . l01  Printsvr SUP VMS V5.0 >   Other TK50 tape labeled:) >    AQ-PUM30-01  .C01 DECprint Supv 1.0C  > . > Not being a software weenie, I'm not sure if > this is what you need ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:05:49 -0700 * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> Subject: Re: Request for kit) Message-ID: <op.thjg7znatte90l@hyrrokkin>   C On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:14:44 -0700, Mike <mlpoole@gmail.com> wrote:    > Hi,  > F > I am in desperate need of the DECPrint Supervisor (DCPS) version 2.5 > .pcsi  > I > I run OpenVMS 7-3_2 on an Alpha DS10 and our small company can't afford - > the entire SPL CD kit for this one product.  > < > Can anyone help me out or point me in the right direction? >  > Thanks so much!  >  > mikep_at_hkusa-dot-com >   D I have a number of unopened kits, just grabbed one out of the closetB "OpenVMS Alpha Software Products Library Q1CY2003" Send me offline# a Fed Ex number and I will ship it.    --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:26:03 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: Request for kit2 Message-ID: <06101623260383_2020028F@antinode.org>  * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com>  E > On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:14:44 -0700, Mike <mlpoole@gmail.com> wrote: H > > I am in desperate need of the DECPrint Supervisor (DCPS) version 2.5	 > > .pcsi   F > I have a number of unopened kits, just grabbed one out of the closetD > "OpenVMS Alpha Software Products Library Q1CY2003" Send me offline% > a Fed Ex number and I will ship it.   F    It might be useful for other things, but I have a Q3 CY2003 SPL andE the DCPS kit in it is V2.2 (which is what I have installed).  V2.5 is  relatively recent.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 22:24:59 -0700, From: "Cluster-Karl" <karl.rohwedder@gmx.de> Subject: Re: Request for kitA Message-ID: <1161062699.128491.4880@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   A DCPS V2.5 (Alpha) 1st occurrence was on the December 2005 CD set.   
 regards Kalle    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:37:55 GMT + From: "Villy Madsen" <Villy.Madsen@shaw.ca> + Subject: SimH VAX emulation with throttling . Message-ID: <7mXYg.151772$5R2.50881@pd7urf3no>   Greetings all..   H 1) The throttled version of SimH VAX and ancillary stuff is available at/ http://members.shaw.ca/Villy.Madsen/simh/ or at L http://68.150.97.212/simh/ (but this one isn't always up - it's an emulated  VAX)   2) Here's how it works....K -  The throttled version of the SimH uVax3900 emulation has a code snippet  F added to it that adds a 1 millisecond wait every N times 400 emulated H instructions.  If (N == 0) or (N>=1000) then the sleep code is bypassed.  M -  The value of N is updated whenever the emulated register at (IOPAGEBASE +   015200) is updated.   J - A program running at priorty 12  and with sysprv under the emulated VAX M wakes up every few seconds and tallies the total CPU utilization for all the  M processes.  It decreases the value of N if the total CPU utilization is less  K than 25% (slowing the emulation down) and increases the value if the total  H CPU utilization is greater than 50% (speeding the emulation up).  On my F 1.5ghz P4 running XP, I have the minimum value (a system wide logical K "THROTTLEMIN" ) set to 20  (in other words a 1ms sleep every 8000 emulated  H instructions) which equates to less than 1% utilization on the P4 and a J vupometer value of 1.1.  with "THROTTLEMIN" defined as 1000 (i.e. disable G throttling) the VAX emulator uses 100% and has a vup rating of 6.2  (I  " know - it doesn't make any sense).  H - Warning - the IO addresse is defined in the DN-11 emulation software. K Running throttle on the standard SIMH Vax (or the 11/780) or on a real vax  A will cause a machine check....  (I'll fix that one of these days)    Any questions ??   Villy    Villy    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 12:33:35 -0700 From: sean@obanion.us + Subject: Technology Forum session documents B Message-ID: <1161027212.593895.167790@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  = The HP tech forum website, www.hptechnologyforum.com, says to G "Check back soon for session presentations. Documents will be available  by the second week of October."  D Since this is now the third week in October, anybody have any status when these might be available? Or have I missed them?     Sean   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:56:17 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com/ Subject: Re: Technology Forum session documents Q Message-ID: <OF3EB5AB02.E1E277CD-ON85257209.0072DD40-85257209.0073041D@metso.com>   0 sean@obanion.us wrote on 10/16/2006 03:33:35 PM:  ? > The HP tech forum website, www.hptechnologyforum.com, says to I > "Check back soon for session presentations. Documents will be available  > by the second week > of October." > F > Since this is now the third week in October, anybody have any status  > when these might be available? > Or have I missed them? > 2 This should be sent to information@encompassUS.org   >  > Sean >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:35:00 -0700 ( From: Ian King <iking@cs.washington.edu>) Subject: Re: VAX 6000 still doesn't start 2 Message-ID: <J79J97.1wM8@beaver.cs.washington.edu>   bob.birch@gmail.com wrote: > Dave Froble wrote: >  >>bob.birch@gmail.com wrote: >> >><snip past posts>  >>E >>I haven't followed this thread, but, my memory is that the VAX 6000 2 >>required 3-phase power.  My memory may be wrong. >>J >>I didn't see any mention of 3-phase in some of the prior posts.  Are you >>using 3-phase 220 power? >  > > > No, there's a hack on the web to cheat and use single phase:' > http://vaxine.bitcon.no/section6.html H > scroll down to "6.5 Can I convert my big VAX' 3-phase power-supply for > home use?  >  > Thats what I think he did....  > G Yup, that's what I did.  :-)  I can't find any objective evidence that  E this is messing me up: the regulators are all seeing 300vdc at their  G inputs.  If someone knows otherwise, I'd love to hear about it!  -- Ian   . iking (at-thing) killthewabbit (dot-thing) org   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:54:36 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> ( Subject: RE: VMS is younger than WindowsT Message-ID: <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B868401BF4026@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----9 > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]=20   > Sent: October 16, 2006 6:54 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com & > Subject: VMS is younger than Windows >=20= > VMS' current version is 8.3. Released in 2006 (july if I=20  > remember correctly). >=20A > When was the last Windows release made (XP SP-2) ? Wasn't it=20  > a number of years ago ?  >=20  H Windows XP came out in 2001 timeframe. As I recall, SP1 came out about 6H months after that and SP2 6 months after SP1. So, I believe WXP SP2 came out in 2002 timeframe.=20   G Microsoft normally has an alternating 18 month window of desktop-server F major releases. Hence, following that strategy, Customers are updatingE their servers and desktops every 36 months. As you finish the desktop 4 upgrades, you start the server upgrades and so on ..  A Vista (current name for WXP follow-on) is at least 2 years behind D schedule. Its release date is approximately 5 years after release of& Windows XP, so you can see it's delay.  
 Reference:* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_VistaH "Windows Vista is the name of the upcoming release of Microsoft Windows,A a line of graphical operating systems used on personal computers, C including home and business desktops, notebook computers, and media F centers. Prior to the announcement of the Vista name on July 22, 2005,H it was known by its codename Longhorn. As of October 2006, Windows VistaF is at release candidate stage; Microsoft has stated that the scheduledF release dates for Windows Vista are currently November 2006 for volumeC license customers, with worldwide availability following in January H 2007.[1] These release dates come more than five years after the releaseB of Windows XP, Microsoft's current consumer and business operatingA system, making it the longest time span between major releases of 	 Windows."   B "Microsoft started work on their plans for "Longhorn" in May 2001,D several months before the release of its predecessor, Windows XP.[4]@ "Longhorn" was named after the Longhorn Saloon, a popular bar inH Whistler, British Columbia[5] because that saloon is located between theE Whistler and Blackcomb mountains. Longhorn was originally expected to H ship sometime late in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP (codenamed? "Whistler") and "Blackcomb" (now known as Windows "Vienna").[6] H Gradually, "Longhorn" assimilated many of the important new features andH technologies slated for "Blackcomb", resulting in the release date beingA pushed back a few times. Many of Microsoft's developers were also G re-tasked with improving the security of Windows XP. Faced with ongoing F delays and concerns about feature creep, Microsoft announced on AugustG 27, 2004 that it was making significant changes. "Longhorn" development G basically started afresh, building on the Windows Server 2003 codebase, D and re-incorporating only the features that would be intended for anD actual operating system release. Some previously announced features,F such as WinFS and NGSCB, were dropped or postponed, and a new softwareG development methodology called the "Security Development Lifecycle" was F incorporated in an effort to address concerns with the security of the Windows codebase"   E For those interested in OpenVMS release history, check out: (includes  VMS V8.3 as well) H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/os/openvms-release-history.html (great link for historical purposes)    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Oct 2006 20:43:53 -0700 From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net  Subject: VMS stuff available nowB Message-ID: <1161056633.809948.304080@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   Hello 2 OpenVMS stuff shirts/cups/etc are now available at www.tardedmonkeydesigns.com  then click on computing gear phillip    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.570 ************************