1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 29 Oct 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 595       Contents: Fired Twice (a little tail) # Re: HP eyes top VMS people for cuts % Looking for Office Server 6.X manuals  Re: Mylex controller update  Re: Mylex controller update  Re: Spit Brook location  Time change questions !  RE: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions !  RE: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions !  WPS help  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 04:43:53 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> $ Subject: Fired Twice (a little tail)< Message-ID: <4544776f$0$14808$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>  J This little tail (by Roland Hughes) should prove to be both entertaining, M and a warning.  No, I'm not going to give you enough details to identify the  J guilty parties.  Indeed, by the end of it you should begin to realize the & pool of guilty parties is quite large.    Roland's tail is continued here:, http://logikal.blog-city.com/fired_twice.htm    
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada." http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------   Date: 29 Oct 2006 14:25:05 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon), Subject: Re: HP eyes top VMS people for cuts+ Message-ID: <4qjru1FnfuouU1@individual.net>   0 In article <87slh8gwzl.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>, 	prep@prep.synonet.com writes: > healyzh@aracnet.com writes:  > B >> This question will seem strange, but does anyone know of a good: >> equivalent to the versioning filesystem in VMS on Unix? > / > There arn't any. Best is Unisucks or AS400...  > A > For a very bitter value of `best'. AS400 has the advantage that @ > there are people all over who know it, and if YOU know it, you > will always be in work.   D Or, because he mentions this is for a specific "software project" heD is working on, he could do it himself within the application. I haveB in the past and feel fairly certain the time will come when I willD again.  While versioning is nice, sometimes it is overkill and doingB it on an applicayion by application basis seems to make more senseB than doing even for those 90% of the times when it is unnecessary.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 08:14:14 -0800 From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net. Subject: Looking for Office Server 6.X manualsB Message-ID: <1162138454.889066.241970@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  C Is it possible to obtain a hard copy (ie manuals/install guide/user G guide) for Office Server 6.X from HP? Or does anybody had a set sitting $ around that they would like to sell? thanks phil p.s > There was a copy on ebay a long time ago and I let it slip by.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:25:09 +0100 # From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> $ Subject: Re: Mylex controller update5 Message-ID: <45447282$0$20664$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl>   3 "Jeff Campbell" <n8wxs@arrl.net> schreef in bericht ; news:1162091665.820698.78580@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...  > H Vlems wrote:@ > > "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> schreef in berichtG > > news:8660a3a10610281144u29fefac3u69c295031ecda87d@mail.gmail.com... 5 > > > On 10/28/06, H Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> wrote:  > > > > > > > > > "WWWebb" <William.W.Webb@gmail.com> schreef in berichtE > > > > news:1162045469.973840.164300@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... 	 > > > > >  > > > > > H Vlems wrote:
 > > [snip]
 > > > > byG > > > > > > the controller and right now it's building a RAID5 set from  these 	 > > three  > > > > 9 GB > > > > > > drives. 0 > > > > > > That is expected to take 90 minutes.	 > > > > > ) > > > > > Congratulations, and good luck. 	 > > > > > > > > > > > It may take considerably longer, from my experience.	 > > > > >  > > > > > WWWebb	 > > > > >  > > > > K > > > > The first 5% took a little under 5 minutes, extrapolating from that  I 
 > > got 90, > > > > minutes. Eventually it took 1hr55...L > > > > Right now I'm booting VMS 8.2 for the first time since the Mylex wasH > > > > installed and SRM at least detects dra0 as a three member RAID 5 set.H > > > > Whar is dispappointing is that 3 members, 9 GB each give me only > > 35545088I > > > > blocks of storage, a little under 18 GB so I one drive! I did not  select > > a I > > > > hot spare drive so either RAID5 is inefficient or I'm still doing 
 > > something  > > > > wrong here...  > > > >  > > > >  > > > >  > > > ? > > > You're not doing anything wrong and your math is correct.  > > > E > > > When you do RAID5, defined as distributed data with distributed L > > > parity, the amount of space on the RAIDset is equal to the total spaceK > > > on the volumes less the space of one volume.  You can lose one volume K > > > and replace it with no problems; lose two and you'll have to pull out  > > > the tape backups.  > > > J > > > I've not done it with volumes of dissimilar size so I can't tell youI > > > how it picks which one to not count in the total space; it probably K > > > depends on how the firmware in the particular controller that's doing  > > > the RAIDing was written. > > > I > > > Here's a site with a pretty good explanation of all levels of RAID, @ > > > including those which are not spoken of in polite society:! > > > http://www.raid-arrays.net/  > > > C > > > See http://www.raid-arrays.net/raid5 for RAID5 in particular.  > > > 
 > > > HTH, > > > WWWebb > > > L > > Read the page on RAID 5 and yes, I should have remembered what I learned at) > > those DECUS seminars 20 years ago :-( K > > Anyway, if I want to optimize storage I'd better break up the RAID5 set  into* > > a JBOD (Just a Bunch Of Disks), right? > I > Another choice would be a stripe set. The 3 drives would appear as a 27  > GB (approx.)H > logical drive, which I think is what you were expecting with the RAID5 > array. Be aware F > that the stripe set will be fatally damaged if one of the configured > drives fails. Backup is  > your friend.  8-)  >  > Jeff Campbell  > n8wxs@arrl.net > F Backup has always been a very close friend.... I decided to format theH drives as JBOD's and use them as separate devices. I might yet decide toK create a bindset but never liked it much. With RA80's it seemed a nice idea . but restoring bindset backups is a royal pain.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:01:45 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> $ Subject: Re: Mylex controller updateJ Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-11B8C5.15014529102006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  5 In article <45447282$0$20664$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl>, %  "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> wrote:   H > Backup has always been a very close friend.... I decided to format theJ > drives as JBOD's and use them as separate devices. I might yet decide toM > create a bindset but never liked it much. With RA80's it seemed a nice idea 0 > but restoring bindset backups is a royal pain.  I Or shadow two of them for important data, and use the other as a scratch   device?   H That way, if the scratch disk fails, you can simply point whatever uses F it elsewhere, or "borrow" one of the shadow set members until you can  fit a replacement.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 29 Oct 2006 14:28:15 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)  Subject: Re: Spit Brook location+ Message-ID: <4qjs3vFnfuouU2@individual.net>   , In article <4544392E.491405BA@teksavvy.com>,0 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:G >> > The Google photo must have been taken on a weekend, as the parking  >> > lots are TOO empty. > G > Or it was taken recently, now that the VMS engineering group has been  > severely downsized ......   I NOpe.  Weekend wins.  None of the Google photos are recent.  For evidence K of this go look at areas devestated by hurricanes the last couple of years. E Or any place you know there has been construction in the last several  years.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:29:59 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Time change questions !8 Message-ID: <63f48$45444a8a$cef8887a$20956@TEKSAVVY.COM>  C Oh no ! It is that time of the year again when there are plenty of   questions about time changes !  ' I don't run that DECENET Phase 5 thing.     H I expect the VAX at 7.3 to be all manual and having to run one of those D command procedures to update the offset to GMT and change the clock.  : On the Alpha (8.3), I thought this would be all automated.  8 Right now, a DECW$CLOCK on the alpha reveals it is 01:257 Right now, a SHOW TIME on the alpha reveals it is 02:25   F DECW$CLOCK on the 7.2 VAX node shows 02:25, and SHOW TIME shows 02:25.    G So, what is the scoop on how to handle FALL/SPRINg time changes at 8.3    Alpha? (without decnet5).  ?????   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:32:11 +1100 6 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>$ Subject: RE: Time change questions !X Message-ID: <0A7046B0A95F2B41B3712F0C5FD1CDC303BBD5@ex-tg2-pr.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6FB2C.58EB799C . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable    Hi JF    Yes, I have similar questions.  L (And I'm sorry but I'm top-posting which is much easier in this terrible Ou=; tlook Web Access, which is all I now have available to me.)   L I am at VMS 8.3 and when I came in this morning my calendar on both ES40 an=L d DS10 showed the new time.  When I did show time at the DECterm, it showed=L  the old time.  So I did set time at the DECterm to the new time (in .au we=L  add 1 hour in October).  A while later, my calendar, which had previously =L set itself correctly overnight, suddenly added an extra hour.  Results of b=L atch jobs which I mail to myself and a couple of colleagues now show the ti=> me of the calendar, i.e., one hour ahead of what it should be.  L How many clocks do I have?  I thought only two -- the TOY clock and one oth=L er, but there appear to be three since my DECwindows calendar (and mail) sh=D ow one hour ahead and my DECterm shows the correct time which I set.  L It was much easier when we did all this manually or used SPRINGFORWARD and =L FALLBACK (I like the latter name even though it is an Americanism -- the re=! st of the world calls it Autumn).   L Does the new time system do a total leap, or does it effect what those .com=
  files do?  L I like to stay with the DECnet Phase IV thing too.  Undoubtedly I am a dino=L saur, I do not use CDE nor ODS-5 (users on our production machine get thems=L elves in enough mess with ODS-2) and I still use fixed form Fortran althoug= h I do use F90/F95 features :-)    Regards, Paddy     -----Original Message-----4 From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com] Sent: Sun 10/29/2006 5:29 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com   Subject: Time change questions ! =20 E Oh no ! It is that time of the year again when there are plenty of=20  questions about time changes !  ' I don't run that DECENET Phase 5 thing.     J I expect the VAX at 7.3 to be all manual and having to run one of those=20D command procedures to update the offset to GMT and change the clock.  : On the Alpha (8.3), I thought this would be all automated.  8 Right now, a DECW$CLOCK on the alpha reveals it is 01:257 Right now, a SHOW TIME on the alpha reveals it is 02:25   F DECW$CLOCK on the 7.2 VAX node shows 02:25, and SHOW TIME shows 02:25.    I So, what is the scoop on how to handle FALL/SPRINg time changes at 8.3=20   Alpha? (without decnet5).  ?????          G *********************************************************************** ; Please consider the environment before printing this email.   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  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It is that time of the year again when there are plenty of<BR>" questions about time changes !<BR> <BR>+ I don't run that DECENET Phase 5 thing.<BR>  <BR> <BR>K I expect the VAX at 7.3 to be all manual and having to run one of those<BR> H command procedures to update the offset to GMT and change the clock.<BR> <BR>> On the Alpha (8.3), I thought this would be all automated.<BR> <BR>< Right now, a DECW$CLOCK on the alpha reveals it is 01:25<BR>; Right now, a SHOW TIME on the alpha reveals it is 02:25<BR>  <BR>J DECW$CLOCK on the 7.2 VAX node shows 02:25, and SHOW TIME shows 02:25.<BR> <BR> <BR>J So, what is the scoop on how to handle FALL/SPRINg time changes at 8.3<BR>) Alpha? (without decnet5).&nbsp; ?????<BR>  <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT>  </P>   <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR>  <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR> ? Please consider the environment before printing this email.<BR>  <BR>G "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged<BR> B and confidential information intended only for the use of the <BR>F addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of <BR>G this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise<BR> F the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, <BR>; distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.<BR>  <BR>E If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid <BR> E immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the <BR> A individual sender except where the sender expressly and with <BR> G authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  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(I figured it expected common  system disk or something).  F I ended uyp running UTC$TIME_SETUP.COM on all nodes and manually doing0 SET TIMES to adjust the clock to the right time.  C My very old MAC switched time by itself at precisely 02:00 (back to  01:00).   @ Interesting that VMS has all those rules about time changes in aB directory but cannot seem to get it working right from the base OSP (where that functionality needs to be, not some add on application like decnet5)   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 09:36:49 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: RE: Time change questions !, Message-ID: <45447631$1@news.langstoeger.at>   In article <0A7046B0A95F2B41B3712F0C5FD1CDC303BBD5@ex-tg2-pr.corporate.transgrid.local>, "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au> writes: M >How many clocks do I have?  I thought only two -- the TOY clock and one oth= M >er, but there appear to be three since my DECwindows calendar (and mail) sh= E >ow one hour ahead and my DECterm shows the correct time which I set.   J Could it be that your had your DECW applications running over the DST chg?H Could it be that these applications check the timezone logical only onceH (at startup) and doesn't recheck at every time output and therefor don'tJ get the timechange right (and have to be left and reentered to get the new time right)?   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 03:22:24 -0800/ From: "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> $ Subject: Re: Time change questions !C Message-ID: <1162120944.459984.243050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    JF,   6 since OpenVMS Alpha V7.3, I'm typically relying on theE AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV=1 system parameter setting, when running without DTSS   and this has worked fine so far.  A To check the correct timezone and TDF settings, I use: $ SHOW LOG F SYS$TIME* - DECW or program using CRTL may need consistent settings of those logicals.    Volker.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:20:54 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> $ Subject: Re: Time change questions !< Message-ID: <45449c3a$0$14799$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message2 news:63f48$45444a8a$cef8887a$20956@TEKSAVVY.COM...D > Oh no ! It is that time of the year again when there are plenty of  > questions about time changes ! > ) > I don't run that DECENET Phase 5 thing.  >  > I > I expect the VAX at 7.3 to be all manual and having to run one of those F > command procedures to update the offset to GMT and change the clock. > < > On the Alpha (8.3), I thought this would be all automated. > : > Right now, a DECW$CLOCK on the alpha reveals it is 01:259 > Right now, a SHOW TIME on the alpha reveals it is 02:25  > H > DECW$CLOCK on the 7.2 VAX node shows 02:25, and SHOW TIME shows 02:25. >  > H > So, what is the scoop on how to handle FALL/SPRINg time changes at 8.3" > Alpha? (without decnet5).  ?????  L I'm not sure what what you think the correct time should be, but ever since K OpenVMS-7.3 the primary way to make the change is automatically via sysgen.      SYSGEN> SH AUTO 7   Parameter Name Current Default Min. Max. Unit Dynamic =   -------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------- !   AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 0 0 1 Boolean 	   SYSGEN>   F Also be aware of the fact that if you are using NTP to maintain clock H synchronization, that you may also need to tweak your NTP settings. For K example, in TCPware you need to set WAYTOOBIG to a value smaller than 3600  I so that VMS and TCPware don't try to adjust the system clock at the same   time.   J (if AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV was set to 0, then you would set WAYTOOBIG to a value A larger than 3600 (like 4000) so that TCPware would do the change)   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:54:53 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> $ Subject: Re: Time change questions !: Message-ID: <D7qdnXDSFsY9OdnYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com>   O'Brien Paddy wrote:   > Hi JF  >   > Yes, I have similar questions. > K > (And I'm sorry but I'm top-posting which is much easier in this terrible  ? > Outlook Web Access, which is all I now have available to me.)  > K > I am at VMS 8.3 and when I came in this morning my calendar on both ES40  I > and DS10 showed the new time.  When I did show time at the DECterm, it  I > showed the old time.  So I did set time at the DECterm to the new time  H > (in .au we add 1 hour in October).  A while later, my calendar, which I > had previously set itself correctly overnight, suddenly added an extra  E > hour  Results of batch jobs which I mail to myself and a couple of  H > colleagues now show the time of the calendar, i.e., one hour ahead of  > what it should be. > J > How many clocks do I have?  I thought only two -- the TOY clock and one H > other, but there appear to be three since my DECwindows calendar (and N > mail) show one hour ahead and my DECterm shows the correct time which I set. > I > It was much easier when we did all this manually or used SPRINGFORWARD  K > and FALLBACK (I like the latter name even though it is an Americanism --  ) > the rest of the world calls it Autumn).  > I > Does the new time system do a total leap, or does it effect what those   > .com files do? > I > I like to stay with the DECnet Phase IV thing too.  Undoubtedly I am a  H > dinosaur, I do not use CDE nor ODS-5 (users on our production machine G > get themselves in enough mess with ODS-2) and I still use fixed form  0 > Fortran although I do use F90/F95 features :-) >  > Regards, Paddy  @ I am a fellow dinosaur!  When VMS started supporting mixed case I passwords, I defined the logical to disable the feature!!  The help desk  F already did more password resets than it should have!  I hate Phase 5 H with a passion, especially NCL; all DEC really needed to do was to make - the addresses and some counters 32-bit. . . .   * You SHOULD NOT BE SETTING YOUR CLOCK!!!!!!. The solution to your problem will be found in ! SYS$MANAGER:UTC$CONFIGURE_TDF.COM  and, of course T.F.Manual   A I invoke this from a batch job, twice per year, with appropriate   parameters each time.    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 14:22:54 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: Re: Time change questions !, Message-ID: <4544b93e$1@news.langstoeger.at>  h In article <45449c3a$0$14799$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes:K >(if AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV was set to 0, then you would set WAYTOOBIG to a value  B >larger than 3600 (like 4000) so that TCPware would do the change)  H TCPware supports AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV so there is no need to set it to "0" !!G The following configuration parameters in TCPWARE:TCPWARE_CONFIGURE.COM > (in addition to setting AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV to "1") did it for me:   $ NETCU_TIMEZONE  == "" " $ NETCU_TIMEZONE_NAME == "MET-DST"" $ NETCU_TIMEZONE_RULES == "EUROPE"  	 Good luck  --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 08:08:10 -0800 From: tomarsin2015@comcast.net Subject: WPS help C Message-ID: <1162138090.590661.254650@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   C See if anybody can recall this. When printing from WPS you give the F destination which would be the print queue, but then it ask for FormatE Style? Does anybody recall what the Format style was.This is on a 5.5  system with WPSplus 4.1. thanks phillip    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.595 ************************