1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 30 Oct 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 596       Contents: Re: Arrow keys as mouse pointer  Re: Fired Twice (a little tail) * Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server* Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server Re: Novice's questions Re: Novice's questions Re: Novice's questions Re: Novice's questions0 Observations on Samba for VMS (CIFS Kit from HP)1 Re: simple improvements to disk write performance 1 Re: simple improvements to disk write performance  Re: Spit Brook location  Re: Spit Brook location  Re: Spit Brook location 1 Re: TCP/IP Services EAK for IPsec or Multinet 5.2  Re: Time change questions !  Re: Time change questions ! ! Updated VMS Information (big one)  Re: WPS help  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:14:36 +0800 ) From: Tim Sneddon <tesneddon@bigpond.com> ( Subject: Re: Arrow keys as mouse pointer9 Message-ID: <454528e6$0$12084$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Tim Sneddon wrote:F >> It's a good chance that satanic incantation was CTRL+SHIFT+F3. ThisC >> enables the "dead rodent" mode. This allows you to use the arrow F >> keys and the three keys directly above it (SELECT, PREV and NEXT on0 >> an LK4xxx) as the three buttons of the mouse. >  >  > Thanks !   > J > How come stopping the DECW$MWM  and/or DECW$SERVER didn't reset this and > it required a reboot ?   >   G Looks like it's all managed in the device driver code. I wouldn't think ? that restarting either of these would clear out those settings.   H > Is this hardware specific ? At what level is this handled ? Would this > work on all VMS platforms ?   B AFAIK it should work on all platforms, the source listings seem to indicate that.  
 Regards, Tim.    --  = Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:34:38 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>( Subject: Re: Fired Twice (a little tail)G Message-ID: <w8OdnTL6l5rNn9jYnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    Neil Rieck wrote: L > This little tail (by Roland Hughes) should prove to be both entertaining, O > and a warning.  No, I'm not going to give you enough details to identify the  L > guilty parties.  Indeed, by the end of it you should begin to realize the ( > pool of guilty parties is quite large. > " > Roland's tail is continued here:. > http://logikal.blog-city.com/fired_twice.htm  I I've not yet become a convert to the world of blogging:  while once in a  @ while I get into a conversation on one having blundered in from F somewhere else, they just don't seem to offer nearly as stimulating a / level of interactivity as Usenet or Web forums.   F And I do get the impression that they're 99.9+% worthless, making the G search for useful content there a pretty poor use of one's time.  This  G blog, for example, appears to be written by a Johnny-One-Note with too  H much time on his hands and apparently (from the paucity of comments) no H audience to speak of, let alone one sufficiently interested to create a D less boring environment:  that may be useful catharsis for the blog > owner, but from the viewpoint of the Internet it's just noise.  I Surely, there must be a more effective use for one's energies in pursuit  G of a cause than this (organizing some kind of collective effort with a  = group of like-minded individuals is one obvious possibility).    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:42:22 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server 1 Message-ID: <ei3ah1$5kj$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Neil,  H > Applets sit at the client end (browser) and can't usually do very much > because of security concerns.   K It is my understanding that it is a common and secure practice to have your I browser settings organized to let unsigned applets run in the sandbox and I connect back to the server that they were downloaded from. Are you saying L this is not the case? (Having said that my IE on Windows2000 server seems toL show Allow "All" network connections or "None". Does the registry have to beL modified to get finer granularity or am I looking in the wrong place? AnyoneB with other browsers care to share their Java-setting experiences?)  G As far as Applets not being able to do "much" I've had some very useful G exchanges with people doing extremely interesting things with Java! For L example, using my Mickey Mouse employee surname lookup from the mf_personnelK database people have described to me how they are using AJAX to monitor the I input field and for every keystroke send the updated contents back to the G server for a new list of matching employee surnames and display it as a K drop-down as the user is typing in. Similar to what Google does with search   strings if you know what I mean.  J Now, because no one seems to speak english in the Unix, Java, New world, IK have additional questions such as: - Is the "Asynch" part in AJAX different F to the other sperate "threaded" examples people have shown me? Are anyJ reduce security settings required for AJAX as opposed to other Javascript?: Is it available everywhere normal Javascript is available?  K > Servlets sit at the server end and can, if progammed properly, do most of J > the dangerous things OpenVMS power would want. (since the servlet is run byE > a web server, like Apache/Tomcat, the web server would need to have  > sufficient privs as well)  > E > Now if you want to fire up a VMS applet that would do some VMS-only F > functions, it would only work on a browser hosted by a VMS sessions.  & Neil, please read more and write less.L http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1071300  K If you want to talk "servlets" then please start up your own thread and see J if someone gives a shit! Plenty of HP people make a lot of money trying toI keep the VMS-Webserver fantasy alive and I'm sure they'll do everthing to F help you, and cover their arses. Me, I just want HP (or other) to giveG Jan-Erik an example of an Applet making the socket calls to get Surname K info, so that he can row over and plunder a couple of villages. Is that too  much to expect?   L Imagine Oracle Rdb, or HP VMS providing assitance in this matter? I mean whoK would benefit from letting the customers get on and do this for themselves? K No! Lock them in to your web-services dellusion and keep yourself employed. K Gartner et al say that's what everyone will be wearing in the next 10 years " so no one will call your bluff :-(   Regards Richard Maher   4 "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in message6 news:4544a2b8$0$14836$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > F > "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote in message. > news:juQ0h.21102$E02.8593@newsb.telia.net... > > Neil Rieck wrote : > >  > [...snip...] > > > > > But this applet does nothing with regard to VMS, does it ?= > > I thought the point was to make an applet that "talks" to = > > an VMS box, not to load and run the applet as such, which ! > > seems to be common knowledge.  > > + > > But I might be missing something... :-)  > >  > H > Applets sit at the client end (browser) and can't usually do very much > because of security concerns.  > K > Servlets sit at the server end and can, if progammed properly, do most of J > the dangerous things OpenVMS power would want. (since the servlet is run byE > a web server, like Apache/Tomcat, the web server would need to have  > sufficient privs as well)  > E > Now if you want to fire up a VMS applet that would do some VMS-only F > functions, it would only work on a browser hosted by a VMS sessions. > K > p.s. Note that Applets + Servlets are not exactly the same as stand-alone . > Java applications run from a command prompt. > 
 >  Neil Rieck  > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.# > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:52:29 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server 1 Message-ID: <ei3b40$6fh$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Arne,  H > PS: Have you investigated Java Web Start as an alternative to applet ?    Yet another tool/terminology :-(  # Never heard of it Arne, is it good?   J This is the requirement-spec, and I'll use the screw-driver or the hammer; you (or HP) tell me: -  = 1) I need a TCP/IP socket interface/dll/api/method/widget-box L 2) Has to be available on 95% of browsers with no additional client software reqdL 3) Has to be secure (within reason i.e. not uncommon browser settings but no signatures) C 4) Has to permit connection to a server other than the html hosting 
 web-server    Here are my asumptions so far: -  I . Sockets aren't available in straight Javascript which led me to applets F . Applets can connect back to their hosting server at "normal" browser security settings 3 . The initialize and destroy methods look shit hot! L . I really like the seperate thread idea for the applet! We can pull amazing functionaly from this!  5 So I'm still at Applets at the moment; please advise.    Cheers Richard Maher  0 "Arne Vajhj" <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote in message1 news:4543c2ec$0$49203$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...  > Richard Maher wrote:A > >> The applet can only connect to the server it is loaded from.  > > K > > Either way I'm happy, as what I wanted to (be able to) achieve was have  the I > > applet coming from a diffent server than the one hosting the original  web > > > page. I think we're all agreed that that can still happen? > 3 > Yes. Java does not care about all the HTML stuff.  >  > Arne > H > PS: Have you investigated Java Web Start as an alternative to applet ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:49:50 -0500 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server 7 Message-ID: <4545300c$0$49203$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>    Richard Maher wrote:I >> Applets sit at the client end (browser) and can't usually do very much   >> because of security concerns. > M > It is my understanding that it is a common and secure practice to have your K > browser settings organized to let unsigned applets run in the sandbox and K > connect back to the server that they were downloaded from. Are you saying  > this is not the case?   B I think this is what many consider limited. Probably not a problem7 for you because you want to do thing serverside anyway.   I > As far as Applets not being able to do "much" I've had some very useful I > exchanges with people doing extremely interesting things with Java! For N > example, using my Mickey Mouse employee surname lookup from the mf_personnelM > database people have described to me how they are using AJAX to monitor the K > input field and for every keystroke send the updated contents back to the I > server for a new list of matching employee surnames and display it as a M > drop-down as the user is typing in. Similar to what Google does with search " > strings if you know what I mean.   Hmm.   AJAX uses JavaScript not Java.  A JavaScript and Java does not have much in common except 4 letters  in the name ...   L > Now, because no one seems to speak english in the Unix, Java, New world, IM > have additional questions such as: - Is the "Asynch" part in AJAX different H > to the other sperate "threaded" examples people have shown me? Are anyL > reduce security settings required for AJAX as opposed to other Javascript?< > Is it available everywhere normal Javascript is available?  H Asynch in in AJAX just means that the browser can refresh part of a page* instead of the entire page ("blink free").  / AJAX is completely different from Java applets.   G AJAX uses traditional web frontend technologies: JavaScript, HTML, CSS.   $ Java is a real programming language.  D There are security rules for JavaScript also, but the rules are much less well defined.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:03:07 -0500 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server 7 Message-ID: <45453328$0$49201$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>    Richard Maher wrote:I >> PS: Have you investigated Java Web Start as an alternative to applet ?  > " > Yet another tool/terminology :-( > % > Never heard of it Arne, is it good?   @ I am not good at either Java Web Start or applets. I know peopleA that I consider good in those that consider Java Web Start better 
 than applets.   L > This is the requirement-spec, and I'll use the screw-driver or the hammer; > you (or HP) tell me: - > ? > 1) I need a TCP/IP socket interface/dll/api/method/widget-box N > 2) Has to be available on 95% of browsers with no additional client software > reqdN > 3) Has to be secure (within reason i.e. not uncommon browser settings but no
 > signatures) E > 4) Has to permit connection to a server other than the html hosting  > web-server > " > Here are my asumptions so far: - > K > . Sockets aren't available in straight Javascript which led me to applets H > . Applets can connect back to their hosting server at "normal" browser > security settings 5 > . The initialize and destroy methods look shit hot! N > . I really like the seperate thread idea for the applet! We can pull amazing > functionaly from this! > 7 > So I'm still at Applets at the moment; please advise.   > Applets (or Java Web Start) will probably suit you better than JavaScript.    The problem is the 95%.   - Many newer Windows systems ship without Java.   / If you need your code to run on default Java on 4 older Windows system you need to build your code for3 Java 1.1, becaus ethat is what the MS JVM supports.   3 One workaround is to embed the applet in a tag that 8 asks users without Java support if they want to download and install the newest Java.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:49:58 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> 3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server ; Message-ID: <45453db6$0$7476$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>   > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message+ news:ei3ah1$5kj$1@news-02.connect.com.au... 
 > Hi Neil, >  [...snip...] > H > It is my understanding that it is a common and secure practice to have > yourK > browser settings organized to let unsigned applets run in the sandbox and K > connect back to the server that they were downloaded from. Are you saying K > this is not the case? (Having said that my IE on Windows2000 server seems  > toK > show Allow "All" network connections or "None". Does the registry have to  > beG > modified to get finer granularity or am I looking in the wrong place?  > AnyoneD > with other browsers care to share their Java-setting experiences?) > I > As far as Applets not being able to do "much" I've had some very useful I > exchanges with people doing extremely interesting things with Java! For A > example, using my Mickey Mouse employee surname lookup from the  > mf_personnelI > database people have described to me how they are using AJAX to monitor  > the K > input field and for every keystroke send the updated contents back to the I > server for a new list of matching employee surnames and display it as a F > drop-down as the user is typing in. Similar to what Google does with > search" > strings if you know what I mean. > L > Now, because no one seems to speak english in the Unix, Java, New world, IC > have additional questions such as: - Is the "Asynch" part in AJAX  > different H > to the other sperate "threaded" examples people have shown me? Are anyL > reduce security settings required for AJAX as opposed to other Javascript?< > Is it available everywhere normal Javascript is available? >   L I pretty much agree with all your points. A few years back I got "sucked in"L by all the Java hype and ended up taking a few semesters of Java training atK a local college. Like off shoring, many companies want programmers to check L out Java solutions because they programs are mostly cross platform and cheap (or even free).   L At the end of the day, any flavour of Java solution (application, applet, orI servlet) all need to run on a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) and you'll never 9 convince me that this is somehow better than native apps.   H So hopefully these answers will clear up some of the mystery (but I'm no" expert; just a johnny-come-lately)  C 0) A java application runs on a local JVM (I guess this is obvious)   1 1) A Java servlet runs on a JVM at the web server   I 2) A Java applet runs on a JVM at the client end (after being sent by the  server)   I 3) There are some cool Java applets out there which can communicate with   servlets  J 4) Like any C/C++ program, a properly written Java applet can use TCPIP toM open a connection to a remote database. Because Java has been used to do all  K kinds of evil things, I find the default environment for most JVMs is very  H restricted. (but users are allowed to remove most of these restrictions)  J 5) Like LAMP, AJAX is a very cool collection of technologies (AsynchronousG Javascript And XML) used together to pull off some desired task. I have I never heard of AJAX using JAVA, just Javascript (the two technologies are J completely different). The Asynch phrase relates to the ability to have anD asynchronous communications channel working behind the scene in yourI browser, watching what you do, and possibly offering choices to you while H you type, and before you click submit. For a good AJAX demo just surf onI over to http://maps.google.com Notice how the page never reloads when you G submit data? I have found a lot of good AJAX articles are linked to the G bottom of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX as well as here: o http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/web/libraryview.jsp?search_by=Mastering+Ajax&ca=dgr-wikiaMasterAJAX   K 6) if you want to experience a real Java reality check, read Roland Hughes  M book titled "The Minimum You Need To Know About Java about Java on OpenVMS".  - You can read a small review of the book here: U http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html#TMYNTK-About-Java-on-OpenVMS F My employer purchased two copies of the book and we used the author's F warnings to put the brakes on a couple of projects inside our company.  ( I hope you find this information useful.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:48:36 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> 3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server < Message-ID: <4544a2b8$0$14836$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>  E "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote in message  , news:juQ0h.21102$E02.8593@newsb.telia.net... > Neil Rieck wrote : >  [...snip...] > < > But this applet does nothing with regard to VMS, does it ?; > I thought the point was to make an applet that "talks" to ; > an VMS box, not to load and run the applet as such, which  > seems to be common knowledge.  > ) > But I might be missing something... :-)  >   G Applets sit at the client end (browser) and can't usually do very much   because of security concerns.   J Servlets sit at the server end and can, if progammed properly, do most of L the dangerous things OpenVMS power would want. (since the servlet is run by D a web server, like Apache/Tomcat, the web server would need to have  sufficient privs as well)   D Now if you want to fire up a VMS applet that would do some VMS-only D functions, it would only work on a browser hosted by a VMS sessions.  J p.s. Note that Applets + Servlets are not exactly the same as stand-alone , Java applications run from a command prompt.    Neil Rieck  Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada." http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:15:30 -0500 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>3 Subject: Re: Java Applet pulled from VMS Web Server 7 Message-ID: <45454420$0$49200$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>    Neil Rieck wrote: N > At the end of the day, any flavour of Java solution (application, applet, orK > servlet) all need to run on a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) and you'll never ; > convince me that this is somehow better than native apps.   7 People actually use the WORA capability. Several of the 7 reflection/dependency injection/AOP techniques would be  rather hard to do native.   K > 3) There are some cool Java applets out there which can communicate with  
 > servlets   To clarify then you can:  8 applet---(HTTP)---ASP/PHP/JSP&Servlet/ASP.NET/CGI script  $ applet---(RMI)---Java server program  G applet---(raw socket)---Java/C/Cobol/Fortran/Basic/Ada/* server program    should all work.  L > 4) Like any C/C++ program, a properly written Java applet can use TCPIP to) > open a connection to a remote database.   = A Java applet should never connect directly to a database for  security reasons.   H  >                                  Because Java has been used to do allM > kinds of evil things, I find the default environment for most JVMs is very  J > restricted. (but users are allowed to remove most of these restrictions)  * Applets have been restricted from day one.  / But server side Java is usually not restricted.   M > 6) if you want to experience a real Java reality check, read Roland Hughes  O > book titled "The Minimum You Need To Know About Java about Java on OpenVMS".  / > You can read a small review of the book here: W > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html#TMYNTK-About-Java-on-OpenVMS H > My employer purchased two copies of the book and we used the author's H > warnings to put the brakes on a couple of projects inside our company.  + Out of curiosity: what were those warnings.    Arne   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 14:00:31 -0800 From: "MZN" <MikeZmn@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Novice's questions B Message-ID: <1162159231.896272.318770@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>  # Thanks, but I still have questions:   3 1. Can I switch from SRM to AlphaBIOS? How, if yes?   C 2. | more doesn't work in OVMS (with and without space). But no any & licenses installed. What's the reason?   Mike   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 23:28:48 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Novice's questions * Message-ID: <45453930$1@ns.langstoeger.at>  d In article <1162159231.896272.318770@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "MZN" <MikeZmn@gmail.com> writes:4 >1. Can I switch from SRM to AlphaBIOS? How, if yes?  8 Yes. IIRC >>>SET OS_TYPE NT with a repower should do it.E But what for? AlphaBIOS is only for Windows-NT and this is dead since  Win2000 Release Candidate 2.  M To switch back, you have to select the correspondig menue entry in AlphaBIOS. ' Check the VMS FAQ for the exact method.   9 >2. | more doesn't work in OVMS (with and without space).   I The more switch was mentioned in terms of the SRM console. And in the SRM  console it does work, Try it.   L In VMS however you need a U**X like shell (eg. BASH) to get a |more working.E The standard VMS CLI (named "DCL") has a totally different behaviour. C There is however a PIPE command in DCL where some of the U**X shell E methods like | or > or >> work with DCL commands too. But there is no I MORE DCL command either. You would need a freeware utility for this then.    >But no any ' >licenses installed. What's the reason?   I SRM has no licenses and VMS has the LMF (DCL command "LICENSE") for them. J SHOW LICENSE would show which licenses VMS has already loaded. If you haveI none then LICENSE REGISTER and LICENSE LOAD and LICENSE LIST/FULL them...    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:45:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: Novice's questions , Message-ID: <45452EFF.6EF6F366@teksavvy.com>  
 MZN wrote:5 > 1. Can I switch from SRM to AlphaBIOS? How, if yes?   ) You may wish to read a document such as : ; http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/download/ds10cr-d.pdf   A It documents the console environment for the DS10 /DS10L (you can G probably find similar documenst for your actual computer, but it should  be fairly similar).   G The answr to your question: Yes, you can change the console from SRM to 4 BIOS. But you cannot boot VMS from the BIOS console.  C Early in the boot sequence, the operating system interacts with the C console to obtain information such as devices, console interface to F wriote messages to. VMS expects/requires a certain console environment with which it can interact.     E > 2. | more doesn't work in OVMS (with and without space). But no any ( > licenses installed. What's the reason?    @ On VMS, the concept of piping was implemented quite differently.  / to use pipes, you need to use the PIPE command:   ) $PIPE SHOW SYSTEM | SEARCH SYS$INPUT DECW   G To pace output, many utilities have their own switches. HELP TYPE /PAGE 
 for instance.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:53:15 -0500 ) From: "Ken Robinson" <kenrbnsn@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Novice's questions H Message-ID: <7dd80f60610291653j278d7637qfe21593fe8c1aebf@mail.gmail.com>  C On 10/29/06, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in part: G > > 2. | more doesn't work in OVMS (with and without space). But no any * > > licenses installed. What's the reason? >  > B > On VMS, the concept of piping was implemented quite differently. > 1 > to use pipes, you need to use the PIPE command:  > + > $PIPE SHOW SYSTEM | SEARCH SYS$INPUT DECW  > I > To pace output, many utilities have their own switches. HELP TYPE /PAGE  > for instance.   O The closet you can get to the UN*X more command is to define a foreign command:    $ more :== typ/pag=(sc,sa)   Then you can do thing like   $ more somefilename.here  D Many command also take the "/page" option, so you can do things like   $ sho dev d/page $ sho sys/page $ sho mem/page  F Use the "Help" command to find out which commands can take the "/page"
 qualifier.   Ken    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:38:27 GMT / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> 9 Subject: Observations on Samba for VMS (CIFS Kit from HP) 8 Message-ID: <9thak2trfmcvd2be88namr0gjerumpood3@4ax.com>  Z I recently installed the CIFS kit on an AlphaServer to see if it could start to replace myY Advanced Server (Pathworks) setup.  I ran into a couple of things that I wanted to see if # anyone else had seen - or resolved.   A Server - AlphaServer DS20, OpenVMS 8.2, TCP/IP 5.5 - SAN w/HSG80s  PC - Windows XP Professional> Network - 100Mb Full Duplex - hard coded on switch and systems  X 1)  It's slow. I could only get 1.25MB/sec transfer rates between the PC and the server.X From the same PC to the same Alpha with ftp I could get 7MB/sec.  From the same PC to anZ AlphaServer cluster running advanced server I could get 11MB/sec (pretty much the max with
 overhead).  Z 2) File size limitations.  One of the walls I keep hitting with Advanced Server is the 4GBW file size limit.  Samba on Linux has supported very large files for a while now.  I was @ very surprised to find that the CIFS kit maxes out at 2GB files!   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 18:52:11 -0800< From: "Hein RMS van den Heuvel" <heinvandenheuvel@gmail.com>: Subject: Re: simple improvements to disk write performanceC Message-ID: <1162176731.020018.207940@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Tom Garcia wrote:  > Bill Todd wrote: > D > > Most likely, it's a sign that C isn't very suave about using theB > > underlying RMS I/O facilities.  My vague and possibly entirelyI > > out-of-data recollection is that C uses simple RMS block I/O, and the   D I beg to differ. The engineers working on the C RTL have a very goodF understanding of RMS but are caught between how RMS / VMS does 'stuff'  and how most Unixes do IO stuff.E Unix IO is relatively light weight and uses a system wide file buffer D (In Tru64 called Unified Buffer Cache (UBC)). Unix programs can, andF do, get away with single character reads and writes. To defer the cost? of going in and out of RMS for every other byte (with dozens of B 'probes' to securely do exec mode) the C RTL (as well as Cobol andC SORT) rolled their own record/stream access using block-IO and user D mode buffer maintenance. The initial versions 90's, only used singleD block IO. Later versions (on my request! :-) listened to the defaultB RMS MBC setting. Apparently they never got around to read-ahead or
 write-behind. A As the application is smarter (read mutliple bytes / objects) and F processes more data the benefit of the CRTL block reads diminishes and& missing out on RAH and WBH hurts more.     > L > It seems opening in record mode gives an immediate improvement over streamI > mode, which as you suggest seems to be the default. Disk write cache is E > disabled. "ctx=rec" below gives me around 30MB/sec. Substitute with 3 > "ctx=stm" and this goes down to previous 9MB/sec.   : That could well be the RMS Write-Behind feature in action.  M > I'm guessing the improvement here is due to write-behind caching being used @ > ("rop=wbh") for record operations when opening in record mode.   Yes.  Z > Although I  haven't requested it explicitly, I think this is default when the file isn'tL > opened with sharing ("shr=put" gives rec and stm methods both dragged down > to ~3MB/sec.).  B With SHR=PUT you are likely to be doing 1 IO per record put (and a bunch of locks).D IF you can fit mutlipel records in buffer (default 16kb these days),G then you can improve on that by enabling Deferred Write (fop=dfw). here E RMS postpones writing the buffer untill the application says 'please' B (SYS$FLUSH) or needs the buffer (or the file is close, or an other? process needs the buffer and jiggles the lock). Whe used in the E write-write-write case, eventually all buffers will be dirty and when E one more buffer is needed, an older one is selected for flush and the 5 user access stalls untill that IO is completely done.   9  Table REF-3 of the Run-Time Library Ref Manual indicates N > "rop=wbh" is for "record processing operations" - does this mean no WBH when > in stream mode?    WBH = RMS. Stream mode = C RTL  L > Explicit "shr=nil", "fop=dfw", "alq=409558" (the final size) don't seem to > make a difference.  C If you wrote shorter records 'USZ'  (your typical 80 or 512 bytes), D then DFW has the potential to cut the IO by a factor of MBC*512/USZ.  G shr=nil + fop=dfw makes no sense for RMS. It could, but it doesn't. You  want WBH for that case.   + > f = fopen("needless.bin", "w", "ctx=rec", 6 >     "rfm=stmlf", "deq=65535", "mbf=127", "mbc=127");H > /* nonsense has size CHUNK=32767 with all 'a's, terminating in '\n' */A > for (x=1; x<=200*MEG/CHUNK; x++) fwrite(nonsense, CHUNK, 1, f);  > fclose(f);  B mbc=127 : More then 3 or 4 buffers will only cause more memory use@ (pagefaulting) and offer no further advantage for linear writes.  C mbf=127: That causes 'odd sized' IOs. As I replied earlier, you may E have more luck with 124, or 112 (128-16). (hmmm, now i forget... does E XFC stop cache at a given IO size like the 35 blocks for VIOC? No VMS  handy right now to try).  L > Similar improvement if I use fixed length records. One possible conclusionK > is that Unix porters wanting to think of a (binary) file as a byte stream H > might try adding arguments to treat files as fixed-length records with > rat=none.   C I like RFM=UDF (User Defined Record Format) for binary stream files  myself. B GET or PUT as many bytes as the application needs as records up to 32K-ish.E No need to worry about 'nulls' or 'linefeed terminator' or some fixed  length.    Hope this helps, Hein van den Heuvel  HvdH Performance Consulting    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 23:28:03 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>: Subject: Re: simple improvements to disk write performanceG Message-ID: <d6OdnSmUP-fJ4tjYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    Hein RMS van den Heuvel wrote: > Tom Garcia wrote:  >> Bill Todd wrote:  >>D >>> Most likely, it's a sign that C isn't very suave about using theB >>> underlying RMS I/O facilities.  My vague and possibly entirelyI >>> out-of-data recollection is that C uses simple RMS block I/O, and the  >  > I beg to differ.  D I wasn't able to find any substantive differences, but feel free to  point any out.  5   The engineers working on the C RTL have a very good H > understanding of RMS but are caught between how RMS / VMS does 'stuff'" > and how most Unixes do IO stuff.  F Only with respect to system-level caching, which is not at issue here.  G > Unix IO is relatively light weight and uses a system wide file buffer G > (In Tru64 called Unified Buffer Cache (UBC)).  Unix programs can, and 6 > do, get away with single character reads and writes.  G Which is actually *more* expensive on Unix than the C approach used on  H VMS is, since each such single-character read or write actually crosses I the application/system boundary (whereas using RMS block I/O it's just a  C C run-time routine invocation that performs a byte move within the   process address space).      To defer the cost A > of going in and out of RMS for every other byte (with dozens of D > 'probes' to securely do exec mode) the C RTL (as well as Cobol andE > SORT) rolled their own record/stream access using block-IO and user  > mode buffer maintenance.  H Fine so far (and still a plus for VMS performance compared with Unix) - I though I've never understood why RMS didn't special-case sequential file  F record-I/O buffer management such that (at least when the file wasn't F actively being shared) it could take place without requiring a system G call on every access:  C, Cobol, and SORT certainly wouldn't have been  F the *only* beneficiaries of such an optimization, and isn't the whole A point of RMS to provide a single, central implementation of such  - facilities such that its users don't have to?   I There's certainly some reason to isolate RMS system structures, like the  G internal contents of indexed-file buckets, from modification by errant  F process-space code, but (modulo some check code that verifies a dirty D sequential file buffer for minimal structural soundness before it's I inhaled back into system space) it's not clear that one needs that level  & of overhead in cases such as this one.  -   The initial versions 90's, only used single  > block IO.   D As I said, that was my recollection (and I noted that it could have  become out of date).  <   Later versions (on my request! :-) listened to the default > RMS MBC setting.  E Not *all* that wonderful (especially since, at least IIRC, MBC has a  < ridiculously low limit on it), but at least somewhat better.  3   Apparently they never got around to read-ahead or  > write-behind.   H Which, as I noted, really isn't very suave at all:  it's not as if this E technology hadn't been around a good deal longer than VMS has been...   C > As the application is smarter (read mutliple bytes / objects) and H > processes more data the benefit of the CRTL block reads diminishes and( > missing out on RAH and WBH hurts more.  F Technically, yes; practically, not that much.  You can do a hell of a C lot of small routine calls within a process with today's processor  I speeds (and on-chip caches) before the overhead amounts to all that much.   D At, say, 60 ns. per single-character move into the block (I'd guess C that's generous, given that everything should be in cache for most  H iterations save when a cache line boundary is crossed), you've got time F to fill a 127-block buffer during a missed rotation of even a 15K rpm F disk, making the *worst-case* overhead of single-character moves only = about the same as the cost of no write-behind.  With the old  G single-block buffers, the cost of single-character moves wouldn't even  G have been noticeable (30 microseconds added to the 4+-millisecond disk  9 rotation required for each transfer, even with no seeks).    ...   D > mbc=127 : More then 3 or 4 buffers will only cause more memory useB > (pagefaulting) and offer no further advantage for linear writes. > E > mbf=127: That causes 'odd sized' IOs. As I replied earlier, you may G > have more luck with 124, or 112 (128-16). (hmmm, now i forget... does G > XFC stop cache at a given IO size like the 35 blocks for VIOC? No VMS  > handy right now to try).  + I believe you've swapped mbf and mbc above.    - bill   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:12:12 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)   Subject: Re: Spit Brook location( Message-ID: <ei3g0s$gp9$1@pcls6.std.com>  * bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  - >In article <4544392E.491405BA@teksavvy.com>, 1 >	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: H >>> > The Google photo must have been taken on a weekend, as the parking >>> > lots are TOO empty.  >>  H >> Or it was taken recently, now that the VMS engineering group has been >> severely downsized ......  J >NOpe.  Weekend wins.  None of the Google photos are recent.  For evidenceL >of this go look at areas devestated by hurricanes the last couple of years.F >Or any place you know there has been construction in the last several >years.   G Google doesn't have their own photos, of course.  They use a variety of I sources, depending on what's available for a given area.  For Spit Brook, C they used photos from April 2001 from the Massachusetts Geographic  G Information System.  (yes, I know full well ZKO isn't in Massachusetts, G but it's close enough to the state line Mass. data covers it, and there ( is no other source with that resolution)  D I don't know where the live.com "Bird's Eye" views came from.  I canE tell you the different directions were shot at different times, since J the view from one direction shows the ZK3 parking lots empty, from another direction they're full.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:32:58 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: Spit Brook location, Message-ID: <4545482C.2AB232D7@teksavvy.com>   Michael Moroney wrote:I > Google doesn't have their own photos, of course.  They use a variety of ; > sources, depending on what's available for a given area.      H Does anyone kwow what happened to the Microsoft Terraserver which ran onG Alphas ? Could that database have been sold to people such as Google ?    H There are also private companies that operate commercial spy satellites.D (for instance, after the tsunami, it was one of those companies thatF published before and after images of the devastated areas), as well as the katrina in the USA.    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:37:14 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)   Subject: Re: Spit Brook location( Message-ID: <ei3ogq$2fu$1@pcls4.std.com>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    >Michael Moroney wrote: J >> Google doesn't have their own photos, of course.  They use a variety of< >> sources, depending on what's available for a given area.     I >Does anyone kwow what happened to the Microsoft Terraserver which ran on H >Alphas ? Could that database have been sold to people such as Google ?   , Online at http://terraserver.microsoft.com/.  C Again, the photos aren't theirs.  They are from the U.S. Geological J Survey, although Terraserver is probably the only place to have all of theC USGS black-and-white photos (just about the whole US) in a computer 	 database.    I The black-and-white ones Terraserver uses are rather old, mostly from the E mid-90s.  The USGS also has just about the whole US on color-infrared J photos, although I know of no site that has all of them online, other thanD these photos are used on other photo site pages if nothing better is
 available.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:56:49 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> : Subject: Re: TCP/IP Services EAK for IPsec or Multinet 5.21 Message-ID: <ei3bc4$6p4$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Paul, > A > You may be interested in this announcement, posted yesterday on ! > vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet    Thanks for the info!  J If any of you lovely System Managers out there are going to participate inK the Beta could you please (pretty-please) discuss your implementation here. K Especially if it was IPsec tested between a Windows box and a VMS server in 3 and Internet environment with dynamic key exchange!    Cheers Richard Maher  @ PS. TCP/IP Services late again :-( And still not on the horizon?  < "Paul Sture" <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> wrote in messageD news:paul.sture.nospam-0950DA.16355428102006@mac.sture.homeip.net...3 > In article <ehvhum$gme$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, 7 >  "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:  >  > > Hi > > L > > Does anyone know the state of play with the Early Adopters Kit (EAK) forK > > IPsec with TCP/IP Services? My understanding is that TCP/IP Development  wereI > > floundering to such an extent that they couldn't deliver for VMS 8.3,  but K > > that they'll all come up from the beach again soon and we won't have to  wait- > > for 8.next to get IPsec. Is that correct?  > 
 > Hi Richard,  > A > You may be interested in this announcement, posted yesterday on ! > vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet  >  > From: Lauren Maschio, > Subject: MultiNet V5.2 beta testers wanted > J > > We are looking for MultiNet beta testers. MultiNet v5.2 beta test will@ > > run from November 17 to January 5. The new features include: > >  > > - BIND9 server0 > > - IPSEC (with layer 3 VPN tunneling and IKE) > > - SSH upgrade  > > - NTP v4.2 > > - IPv6 support% > > - Kernel performance improvements  > > = > > If you are interested in participating, please sign-up at , > > http://www.process.com/tcpip/mnbeta.asp. > > 
 > > Thanks
 > > Lauren > > 3 > > -----------------------------------------------  > > Lauren Maschio > > Director of Marketing  > > Process Software4 > > ------------------------------------------------ >  > --   > Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:57:00 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: Re: Time change questions !8 Message-ID: <7d851$45451581$cef8887a$28187@TEKSAVVY.COM>   Volker Halle wrote: 8 > since OpenVMS Alpha V7.3, I'm typically relying on theG > AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV=1 system parameter setting, when running without DTSS " > and this has worked fine so far.  I Thanks. It is a shame this didn't make it to the VAX version. This means  I that time changes must essentially still be done manually because one or  , more nodes in the cluster can't handle this.  9 I'll set my alpha to have that sysgen parameter set to 1.   E Going from VAX VMS 7.2 to Alpha 8.3 means that you miss a lot of the  J documented new features. (especially since the installation procedures no B longer move the release notes or add a "new features" HELp topic.)   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 22:16:19 +01006 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: Re: Time change questions !, Message-ID: <45452833$1@news.langstoeger.at>  h In article <7d851$45451581$cef8887a$28187@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Volker Halle wrote:9 >> since OpenVMS Alpha V7.3, I'm typically relying on the H >> AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV=1 system parameter setting, when running without DTSS# >> and this has worked fine so far.  > J >Thanks. It is a shame this didn't make it to the VAX version. This means J >that time changes must essentially still be done manually because one or - >more nodes in the cluster can't handle this.   3 ... or you run DECnet-Plus with DECdts on your VAX.   : >I'll set my alpha to have that sysgen parameter set to 1. > F >Going from VAX VMS 7.2 to Alpha 8.3 means that you miss a lot of the K >documented new features. (especially since the installation procedures no  C >longer move the release notes or add a "new features" HELp topic.)   
 Happy RTFMing    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Oct 2006 19:55:18 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> * Subject: Updated VMS Information (big one)A Message-ID: <1162180518.131480.36710@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>    Dear News Group,   -----Original Message----- From: Skonetski, Susan) Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:26 PM  To: Skonetski, Susan> Subject: Updated VMS Information - please keep this for future	 reference     . Dear Internal and External Distribution lists,  B First I would like to apologize for the size of this email messageD however it is much better than sending individual messages to all ofF you.  I urge you to read this carefully since there is a great deal ofE important information included.  Everything other than the job can be  posted.    Warm Regards as always,  Sue    	1. Time Sensitive  	2. Announcements from Marketing' 	3. Announcements from VMS Engineering:  	4. Sue's Fav's  	5. Partner Announcements E 		5.1 Attunity Announces New and Enhanced Features to Its Integration  Suite  		5.2 Oracle Database 10gR2 E 		5.3 CA Unicenter=AE Network and System Management System Monitoring  Option for OpenVMS I64 r3.1 : 		5.4 Process Software OpenVMS Security Webcast InvitationA 		5.5 Announcing Oracle ODBC Driver for Rdb, Release 3.2.0.0 Beta  Program + 		5.6 Cache versions running on OpenVMS 8.3  	6. In the Press	 	7. Job's   E Nov 2nd - Court Square and NEMONIX to Present Open/VMS Life Extension , and Systems Management Webinar on November 2J http://photography.consumerelectronicsnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id= =3D75368  B OpenVMS Technical Journal Articles are due November 15.  Here is aE preview of the articles so far, if I have missed anyone please let me  know.   A Methodologies for Fixing DECnet Alignment Faults		Ajo Jose Panoor ; OpenVMS Errorlog Analysis Made Easy			Mike Hill, HP Germany . Setting up a VMS Web Server				Willem GrootersC OpenVMS Mailboxes: Concepts, Programming, and Troubleshooting	Bruce  Ellis . Advanced CD and DVD Recording				Steve Hoffman@ Everything you wanted to know about alignment faults			Guy Peleg> OpenVMS Backup Products: ABS/MDMS and Data Protector		Ted Saul3 Simplifying Maintenance with DCL				Bruce Claremont L ___________________________________________________________________________= _____   ! 2=2E Announcements from Marketing   F New Brochure' Delivering high availability and disaster tolerance in aE multi-operating-system HP Integrity server environment' Success Story D This success story presents reference architectures for a variety ofG scenarios that most enterprises encounter. The configurations are based C on HP-UX 11i, HP OpenVMS, Linux, and Microsoft Windows Server 2003, G that are fully supported on HP Integrity servers, as well as the new HP C Integrity NonStop server environment. Share this success story with @ your customers to demonstrate the outstanding capabilities of HP Integrity systems.8 http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA0-6737ENW.pdf  B There is a great new Integrity success story on the VMS home page.C Instead of giving you the URL directly here is how you find all the F success stories. Go to the HP OpenVMS home page (now is a good time to do this) here is the url: A http://h71000.www7.hp.com/ scroll down and you will see a heading E called success stories if you click on the Success Stories button you  will see them all.G The new one is ESME-Sudria they are a School of Engineering from France   A While you are there you might want to check out the new roadmaps.   L ___________________________________________________________________________= ____  ( 3=2E Announcements from VMS Engineering:  E The SLS Engineering team is happy to announce the availability of SLS E V2.9J-ECO002. SLS Version V2.9J-ECO02 software provides the following  new feature/enhancement:D 1) SLS V2.9J-ECO02 is qualified on OpenVMS Alpha V8.3 (NEMO) system.G 2) Remote Device Facility (RDF) V4.3I is qualified to be used by SLS on   F    OpenVMS Alpha V8.3. Use of RDF V4.3I by SLS on OpenVMS VAX V7.3 and*    OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2 and V8.2 continue.+ 3) Bug fixes since SLS V2.9J-ECO01 Release. 0  The kit can be obtained in the following ways -" 1) Internal location for download:9    The kit is copied to BULOVA in the following location: '     BULOVA::PUBLIC5$:[STORAGE.SLS.KITS] E    Depending on the Server/Client component, the kit comprises of the C    following ZIP files and release notes:  SLS_V29J_SERVER_ECO2.ZIP !  SLS_29J_SERVER_ECO02.REL_NOTES;1   SLS_V29J_CLIENT_ECO2.ZIP !  SLS_29J_CLIENT_ECO02.REL_NOTES;1 " 2) External location for download:? The kit is also uploaded to the ITRC website that is separately 	 available F for OpenVMS on VAX and Alpha. Following are the zip file names for the two different platforms:%    - SLS_AXPVMS_J029_E02_SERVER.ZIP;1 %    - SLS_AXPVMS_J029_E02_CLIENT.ZIP;1 %    - SLS_VAXVMS_J029_E02_SERVER.ZIP;1 %    - SLS_VAXVMS_J029_E02_CLIENT.ZIP;1   	 --------- B JDK/JRE 5.0-2 for OpenVMS on AlphaServer Systems for Java PlatformD Based on Sun's Java 2 Platform, this release passes all the tests in' Sun's Java Compatibility Kit test suite % http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/alpha/  -----------   5 HP Reliable Transaction Router (RTR): Field Test Kits F HP Reliable Transaction Router (RTR) is a fault-tolerant transactional; messaging middleware used to provide continuous application D availability. Field test kits are available for HP Integrity serversG running HP-UX11i, OpenVMS, Microsoft Windows and Red Hat Linux, as well + as for AlphaServer systems running OpenVMS:   http://www.hp.com/products1/rtr/  ; ___________________________________________________________    4=2E Sue's Fav's  C In January we will be starting a contest.  The prize will be a free D registration to the OpenVMS Advanced Technical Boot Camp the week ofC May 21, 2007.  The contest will be for folks that have accounts on: E http://www.trysecureserver.com/  this is VMS web based email and much F more.  You will have to have an active account and be using it in some creative way (to be decided)  G http://www.alternet.org/story/42641/  this is an awesome article titled : White-Collar Workers Unite! I really enjoyed reading this.    : Keep an eye/ear out of something like podcasts coming from www.openvms.org.    E Ok this is the first time I have every put in a book that I have read D as a Sue Fav BUT the Blue Nowhere by Jeffery Deaver is now one of myF favorite books, it could be because it mentions VMS for the first timeG on page 76 "serious hackers use Digital Equipment Corporations VMS".  I  guess I am easy to thrill   A interesting article of a Web application running on OpenVMS which G handle a very high traffic :-) using WASD (thank you to Jean-Fran=E7ois  and Mark Daniel)  B http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ht_root/other/can_wasd_handle_the_load.html   This caught my attention -L http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=3Dnews_=* view&newsId=3D20061016005431&newsLang=3Den    ? Crossroads Systems to Exhibit at ITUG Summit 2006 (VTS, a fully > integrated virtual tape hardware and software solution,VirtualC TapeServer also simultaneously supported many other systems such as @ HP-UX, HP OpenVMS, IBM AIX, IBM OS/400, Unisys MCP, Sun Solaris,J Linux=AE and Microsoft=AE Windows=AE systems. VTS is sold and supported byB HP's NonStop Enterprise Division on an OEM basis and stands as theG only virtual tape product certified for use on the HP NonStop platform.      Sue,  F After reading your Sue Faves, I need to share this with you.  I have aD very close friend in Arizona that built an ISP that is 100% OpenVMS.F It is a combination of VAX and Alpha Clustered.  He uses VMS mail that@ is POP3 enabled and is WEB accessable.  He has been building hisE customer base since 2001 in Florence, AZ and has done so well that he F finally quit his regular job to run his ISP.  He has an antenna in hisE back yard for broad band and keeps the VMS servers cooled down in his ? bed room closet.  Like he says, he never worries about going on D vacation.  If there is a power loss the VMS servers will just rebootG and start backup and he doesn't worry about Hackers, viruses, or worms. )  Well worms maybe, while he goes fishing. 3 ___________________________________________________    5=2E Partner Announcements    E 5=2E1 Attunity Announces New and Enhanced Features to Its Integration 
 Suite  ...  E Other AIS 5.0 additions to Attunity Stream include support for Adabas C running on OpenVMS, and for DB2/400 with support for System Managed B Journals, both again enabling the capture and movement of only the7 changes made in either of these source database systems   + For the complete press release please visit L http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=3D104&STORY=3D/www/story/= 10-23-2006/0004456879&EDATE=3D  C 5=2E2 Oracle Database 10gR2 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity servers now E available http://h71000.www7.hp.com/partners/oracle/10gr2_oracle.html  --------------J 5=2E 3 Unicenter=AE Network and System Management System Monitoring OptionH for OpenVMS I64 r3.1 We are very proud to announce that the Unicenter=AEE NSM System Monitoring Option for OpenVMS I64 product is now generally E available. You can obtain more information about the new features and , functionality for this product at this link.  5 The product is available for electronic download from C www.supportconnect.com and is in all the distribution centers.  The F product support home page on supportconnect can be found here.  Please@ contact you CA account representative for licensing information.  
 Sincerely,  ? The Unicenter NSM System Monitoring Option for OpenVMS I64 r3.1  Development Team ----------------' 5=2E4 Process Software OpenVMS Security  Webcast Invitation  B Don't risk unauthorized users gaining access to vital information.F Learn how you can secure your OpenVMS systems and data with the latest! technology from Process Software.    Date: Friday, November 3, 2006 Time: 3:00 - 4:00 EST ) Click Here to Pre-register for the Event:   ; http://www.talkpoint.com/viewer/starthere.asp?pres=3D114829   2 Conference call number: (877)844-5039; ID# 8573429   Watch and Win!!   G You can be eligible to win an iPod by registering for an attending this 8 event! A drawing will be held at the end of the webinar.   What you will learn:  > *	Authentication and encryption options used for securing dataA *	Product overview of VMS Authentication Module and SSH Solutions 2 *	Best practices for securing your OpenVMS systems  8 --------------------------------------------------------B 5=2E 5 Announcing Oracle ODBC Driver for Rdb, Release 3.2.0.0 Beta Program   F Oracle is pleased to announce the opening of the beta test program forG Oracle ODBC Driver for Rdb, Release 3.2.0.0. The Oracle ODBC Driver for G Rdb allows for applications to attach, query, and manipulate Oracle Rdb D databases through the standard ODBC protocol. The Oracle ODBC DriverB for Rdb uses the Oracle SQL/Services client and server software to@ submit requests to and receive responses from an Oracle Rdb dataA source. DECnet or Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol G (TCP/IP) communications protocol is used for communications between the : Oracle SQL/Services client and Oracle SQL/Services server.  B The new major feature available for test in Release 3.2.0.0 is theE implementation of catalogs and schemas into a variety of the ODBC API D functions. Please see the release notes for detailed information. ToG join the Oracle ODBC Driver for Rdb, Release 3.2.0.0 Beta please visit: L http://otnbeta.us.oracle.com/pls/portal30/PORTAL30.wwa_app_module.show?p_se= ssionid=3D262005  : ----------------------------------------------------------H 5=2E 6 The following previously-released Cache versions have been testedE on and are now available for HP Alpha systems running OpenVMS release  8=2E3:       Cache 5.0.21  
     Cache 5.2   F Cache 5.2 for OpenVMS Itanium is currently being tested on OpenVMS 8.3) and should be announced later this month.      InterSystems Corporation One Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 USA  +1 617 621 0600  www.intersystems.com  / _______________________________________________    6=2E In the Press   F http://www.whatpc.co.uk/itweek/comment/2166050/itanium-zero-hero - Can Itanium go from zero to hero?   I http://www.echannelline.com/usa/story.cfm?item=3D21276 Intel's Itanium --  time to reconsider?   E http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh100206-story01.html Bang for the Buck: ! Big Iron Boxes, Even Bigger Bucks   I http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsID=3D6958&pagtype=3Dall & Is it time to ditch your AlphaServers?  D http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=3D164012 AEPD Networks Announces Latest Generation Netilla Security Platform (NSP) SSL VPN Product    http://tinyurl.com/u3w7o or L http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=3DviewArticleBasic&t=J axonomyName=3Doperating_systems&articleId=3D265674&taxonomyId=3D89&intsrc=	 =3Dkc_top , AlphaServer Users Face Decisions on Hardware  G http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComunicados.asp?nid=3D225657&src=3D0 CA = HARVEST CHANGE MANAGER 7.1 MANAGES, AUTOMATES AND ACCELERATES 7 APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE   9 http://www.hpcwire.com/hpc/955963.html Itanium Enthusiasm     L http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=3Dnews_=* view&newsId=3D20061017005196&newsLang=3DenI - PTC=AE Windchill=AE PDMLink=AE Extends Support To HP Itanium=AE Servers ; ___________________________________________________________  =20  7    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:02:08 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: WPS help 7 Message-ID: <6a6e$454516b7$cef8887a$28187@TEKSAVVY.COM>    tomarsin2015@comcast.net wrote: E > See if anybody can recall this. When printing from WPS you give the H > destination which would be the print queue, but then it ask for Format7 > Style? Does anybody recall what the Format style was.   L The format style defines what sort of printer you are sending the pring job G to so that the formatter can generate a print file with the approriate  G content (the right ansi sequences for that printer, or postscript etc).   K When on that field, pressing GOLD-L gives you a list of available formats.   The ones I have used:    LN03 LA75 PS- There are other ones such as FILE, ASCII etc.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.596 ************************