1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 08 Sep 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 493       Contents:# Re: All is not well at the HP board 3 Re: Bugcheck 3C4 Alpha 7.2-2 $audit_event User Mode 3 Re: Bugcheck 3C4 Alpha 7.2-2 $audit_event User Mode  Re: Build procedure for WGET Re: Calendar QAR Re: Calendar QAR CIPCA Cards ) Re: CIXCD unable to see disks, I think... ! Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 % Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 % Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 % Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 % Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 % Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20 ' Re: Encrypted backup questions/concepts ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? RE: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? RE: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host ? Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host " HP announces new Integrity servers& Re: HP announces new Integrity servers& Re: HP announces new Integrity serversP Re: Is There Something Besides The FTP Command To Copy A File Between Two VMS Co, Re: MinVMS or CD backup and volume shadowing5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...  psftp 	 Re: psftp ! Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware ! Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware ! Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware ! Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:45:43 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board+ Message-ID: <45010372.99348CD@teksavvy.com>   @ BBCworld's WBR boradcast of 05:30 GMT stated that the CaliforniaH attorney general has determined that the pretexting was used illegally. : Laws on identity theft and data privacy  have been broken.  A Not sure if/who will be prosecuted for this. What is not clear is H whether the board voted/authorized this wich hunt, or whether it was PatC Dunn's own initiative. This would make a huge difference between HP < being charged with crimes or Dunn being charged with crimes.  H Either way, I don't think Dunn has any other option but to resign in theP short term... UNLESS she decides to order HP to start marketing VMS big time....    ; I vote for Sue Skonetski to replace her on the board !!!!!!    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 13:17:02 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)< Subject: Re: Bugcheck 3C4 Alpha 7.2-2 $audit_event User Mode+ Message-ID: <4md8qeF58jc9U1@individual.net>   9 In article <XrudndmbTYyRYJ3YnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@libcom.com>, * 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > G > I can also understand the position that if the programmer can't code  + > correctly, he deserves what he gets.  :-)   H Funny, when this happens and C is involved everyone blames the language.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:09:57 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> < Subject: Re: Bugcheck 3C4 Alpha 7.2-2 $audit_event User Mode9 Message-ID: <BfqdnW6NEdFxGJzYnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@libcom.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:; > In article <XrudndmbTYyRYJ3YnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@libcom.com>, , > 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:H >> I can also understand the position that if the programmer can't code , >> correctly, he deserves what he gets.  :-) > J > Funny, when this happens and C is involved everyone blames the language. >  > bill >    Opportunistic bastard!  :-)   F First, you've snipped the part where I said an unterminated item list . should not be allowed to cause a system crash.  H Second, item lists are usually used with system services, not a call to  a language function.  G System services should be probing all arguments and such to insure the  @ caller has read access to the memory locations, and testing the > arguments for validity, prior to doing any work with the data.   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:50:32 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)% Subject: Re: Build procedure for WGET 2 Message-ID: <06090811503238_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  % From: Jeremy Begg <nospam@vsm.com.au>   N > FYI,  our mailservers are at 150.101.13.1 through 150.101.13.15 (inclusive).      Should be accepted now.  A > >    I think that an explicit command-line request for Multinet I > > specificity would be best nowadays.  I should be able to arrange that  > > pretty soon. >  > I agree, and thanks.  A    And I did, but I forgot to propagate it.  A modified (possibly G better) VMS-WGET.COM should be available in the usual place, with links  from the usual places, like:  *       http://antinode.org/dec/sw/wget.html  %    As always, complaints are welcome.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 01:40:46 -0700   From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> Subject: Re: Calendar QAR B Message-ID: <1157704846.258418.27270@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>  E I have seen a day in the life of the image activator but not that one    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:50:38 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch>  Subject: Re: Calendar QAR J Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-55D727.13502908092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  B In article <1157704846.258418.27270@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,"  "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote:  G > I have seen a day in the life of the image activator but not that one   E Extremely funny if you had been running Datatrieve on an 11/780 or a  , lesser machine. Shared libraries gone mad...   Here it is:    Subject:  A rabinowitz gem   ---START QUOTE---   4             A Day in the Life of the Image Activator  8         as recounted to Stanley Rabinowitz on 7-Jan-1985  = MONITOR:        Good morning sir!  I am your command language I                 interpreter today.  That was a flawlessly executed LOGIN. )                 How may I help you today?   1 USER:           Good morning to you too computer. @                 I think today I want to do some data retrieving.  C MONITOR:        A wonderful choice sir!  A finer day it couldn't be H                 for looking over your data.  How will you have it today?2                 Sunny side up?  Once over lightly?  G USER:           I think I'll use DATATRIEVE.  Would you kindly activate "                 DATATRIEVE please?  9 MONITOR:        Most certainly sir!  An excellent choice! 5                 One moment while I image-activate it.   D MONITOR:        Oh, image activator: would you please image-activateF                 that DTR32 image that I notice on SYS$SYSTEM?  My user2                 desires to play with it a bit now.  8 IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No problem.  Shouldn't take but a jiff.                   <pause>    MONITOR:        Any problems?   D IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No sir, not a one.  It's just that I'm surprised to@                 see that DTR32 is composed of 21 image sections.@                 Quite an unusual number for a VMS utility.  MostB                 images only have 3 or 4 sections.  This one reallyE                 sets a record!  But no problem - I just \love/ to map E                 in all these sections.  After all - that's my primary                   purpose in life.                   <pause>   A IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Well, that should do it.  They're all mapped in.   - MONITOR:        Then we can start her up now?   @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Well not quite.  I just noticed that this imageB                 invokes some shared images.  Oh well, I guess I'llC                 have to go image-activate them too.  At least we'll D                 only have to activate those images that this program                 really needs.   7 MONITOR:        How many shared images does it require?   = IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Oh mi gosh!  It references 15 shared images! 4                 Another record!  I can't believe it!%                 Oh well, here goes...   B IMAGE ACTIVATOR: The first one it wants is DTRSHR.  That should be                 an easy one.                   <pause>   ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Oh no! Not another one. That's two in one day! 2                 DTRSHR.EXE uses 20 image sections!  2 MONITOR:        Have you enough room for them all?  F IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No sweat. This is a virtual memory machine. And this  disk<                 I/O is real fast.  I'll have it in a minute.                   <pause>   @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: There. Now on to the other shared images.  NextA                 comes CDDSHR.  Guess it's important that we share                  all this data.    MONITOR:        Yup.  What next?  > IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Now we'll need a database manager, so I guessD                 we'll just have to go off and image-activate DBMSHR,/                 the database management system.   " MONITOR:        Sounds reasonable.  / USER:           How's it coming there computer?   8 MONITOR:        No sweat.  It'll be just another moment.  / IMAGE ACTIVATOR: And now we'll activate RDBSHR.   H MONITOR:        But I thought you just brought in your database manager?  G IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Yes, but this one is the \relational/ database system. 0                 It's a whole different ballgame.  % MONITOR:        Well, hurry it along.   A IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Okay. Next comes RDMSHR, the relational database                  manager.  5 MONITOR:        But how does that differ from RDBSHR?   B IMAGE ACTIVATOR: I don't know.  I just activate 'em.  They tell me-                 to image-act and I image-act.   = MONITOR:        Well, I hope that's it for database managers.   @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Not quite. There's still RDBBSHR.  This companyD                 specializes in its excellent collection of managers.  . MONITOR:        Great! I guess that's it then.  ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Not on your life! Do you think our user merely A                 wants to look at relationships?  What if he wants !                 to sort his data?    MONITOR:        Oh.   B IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Didn't think of that did you?  I guess we'll just2                 have to go image-activate SORTSHR.   MONITOR:        I guess so.   9 USER:           But I don't plan to do any sorting today. 8                 I just wanted to prepare a short report.  6 IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Sorry. SORTSHR comes with this image.#                 It's a free option.    MONITOR:        What next?  ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Hmm.  Looks like a request to bring in COBRTL, +                 the COBOL run-time library.   C MONITOR:        Why would they want that?  Is DATATRIEVE written in                  COBOL?  E IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No, but the COBOL run time library has many precious F                 gems of useful routines that one might wish to call...:                 Guess, I'll just go image-activate it now.  C MONITOR:        Good thing you don't also need the FORTRAN run-time                  library too.  B IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Now you've done it! You've given me the evil eye.B                 Either that or I just got up out of the wrong sideA                 of the bed this morning.  Here look at this: this ;                 image is also requesting FORRTL and LIBRTL. 6                 OH! and now look: It wants MTHRTL too!  B MONITOR:        You never know when our user might want to do some?                 computation.  He might need to compute some arc :                 cosines you know.  Better safe than sorry.  & USER:           What's taking so long?  E MONITOR:        (still trying to be pleasant) We're almost there now. <                 Shant be much longer.  After all, you want a/                 user-friendly system don't you?   < IMAGE ACTIVATOR: That's right.  I guess that's why I've been?                 instructed to image activate LBRSHR.  You never B                 know when the user might request some on-line helpB                 so we've got to have our librarian ready to answer                 his questions.  E MONITOR:        That's nice.  I'm sure our user will appreciate that.   @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: And oh yeah - we'll need SCRSHR too, the screen@                 package.  Only the best on \this/ system.  Can't<                 let our user make do without fancy graphics!  @ MONITOR:        A wonderful thought.  But will SCRSHR be enough?  @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: No. you're right of course.  We'll also have to>                 bring in EDTSHR.  SCRSHR is only the low level?                 graphics.  EDTSHR will really let our user edit "                 his data in style.  ? USER:           But I wasn't planning to change the data today. )                 Just one simple report...   B MONITOR:        Keep your shirt on.  When this image finally comes2                 up, it will really blow your mind.  B MONITOR:        But image activator, will EDTSHR really be enough?5                 Isn't the big thing these days forms?   ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Right you are monitor, baby.  Guess we'll need @                 FDVSHR, the forms management system.  Won't takeD                 but another moment. (sigh) I think that was the last                 one.  E MONITOR:        Great! Then I can report back that we're ready to go?   : IMAGE ACTIVATOR: One second. Let me make one last check...  ' MONITOR:        Never pays to be hasty.   ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Ah nuts! Some of these new images that we just ;                 activated are requesting further attention. =                 It looks like they too want to activate other                  shared images.  E MONITOR:        Don't we have enough images?  That's been 16 already!   : IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Well, security is an important issue too.8                 Wouldn't want our user to lose any data.A                 Look here: CDDSHR wants us to bring in SECURESHR. E                 Guess I'll just have to image-activate another one...   : USER:           (getting impatient) What's taking so long?  B MONITOR:        We're putting all the pieces together for you now.)                 Shouldn't be much longer.   F USER:           Putting them together?  Doesn't it come all assembled?  H MONITOR:        Not to worry.  There's no extra charge for installation.  G IMAGE ACTIVATOR: There.  And now what?  Look at this: CDDSHR also wants C                 us to activate LIBRTL, the common run-time library.   7 MONITOR:        But didn't you already activate LIBRTL?   9 IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Right on baby!  Let me just look around.                    <pause>   H IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Oh there it is.  We have it mapped into memory already.:                 I guess I'll just throw this request away.  < MONITOR:        Do you get many of these redundant requests?  H IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Yeah, they happen all the time. Nothing to worry about.H                 You get used to it.  Look here, SCRSHR wants LIBRTL too;D                 and so does SORTSHR, and COBRTL, and FORRTL, and ...  + MONITOR:        Well hurry it along please.   2 IMAGE ACTIVATOR: ... and FDVSHR and MTHRTL and ...D                 Oh and look at this duplicate request for LBRSHR and5                 RDMSHR and RDBBSHR and VMSRTL and ...   A MONITOR:        VMSRTL?  I don't remember seeing that one before. ,                 What is it and who wants it?  F IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Oops, you're right.  I almost overlooked this requestC                 by RDBSHR.  It's easy to overlook this one; it's so ?                 small.  Only contains a few transfer vectors...   9 MONITOR:        Guess it should be easy to activate then?   @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: On the contrary.  This one attempts to activateE                 the entire RTL!  Imagine that.  Oh well. That's life. E                 Fortunately, I've already brought in most of the RTL. ?                 Let's see now, what else will we need?  Oh yes, B                 BASRTL.  Can't imagine how we overlooked that one.    MONITOR:        Is that it then?  C IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Yup. That's it.  She's all here.  You can go start                  her up!   7 USER:           (pounding on keyboard) Where's my data!   > MONITOR:        Please use voice input sir! Those CTRL/T's are=                 MOST annoying.  They cause the most insidious ?                 asynchronous traps to interrupt what I'm trying 6                 to do.  We're starting your image now.    USER:           It's about time.  9 MONITOR:        There. How's that?  Lovely data isn't it?   4 USER:           I wouldn't know.  Where's my prompt?  2 MONITOR:        I don't know. Let me look into it.  1 MONITOR:        Control unit, where's his prompt?   ? CONTROL UNIT:   We're executing instructions as fast as we can! (                 Oh my god! An exception!  . MONITOR:        An exception! Is that serious?  F CONTROL UNIT:   My mistake; it's not a hardware exception, it's merelyH                 a software exception.  Looks like the program signalled.  ! MONITOR:        Why'd it do that?   D CONTROL UNIT:   Well, this program is naturally user friendly, so it?                 wants to start up by printing a welcome message                   on the terminal.  * MONITOR:        So why doesn't it do that?  ; CONTROL UNIT:   Well the message is in a message file, sir.    MONITOR:        Well get it!  ? CONTROL UNIT:   That's what we're trying to do.  You'll have to @                 check with the system message handling facility..                 It takes care of those things.  B SYSTEM:         Ah, I have the message request now.  I'll have the$                 message in a moment.  ( MONITOR:        Well, how do you get it?  C SYSTEM:         No sweat, we'll just image activate the appropriate                   message section.  @ IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Oh no.  I thought I had a deserved rest coming.  0 SYSTEM:         Sorry, just a little bit longer.  & USER:           WHERE'S MY PROMPT!!!!!  < MONITOR:        Keep your pants on.  Just be glad you're not4                 trying to activate any subprocesses.  ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Okay, one last time.  Which message section do #                 you need activated?   ? SYSTEM:         I'm not sure.  Let's try DBMMSG. DBMSHR alerted                  us to this one.   E IMAGE ACTIVATOR: (struggling) Okay. There it is. I've image-activated                  DBMMSG.   B SYSTEM:         Sorry. It wasn't in that one. Try CDDSHR's message6                 section, CDDEXC.  Maybe it's in there.    IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Okay. (grumble)  ; SYSTEM:         Nope. It wasn't there either.  Try RDMSMSG.   D IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Look. I'm getting tired of this.  Couldn't you just@                 give me the complete list of message sections to>                 activate?  I'll keep bringing them in until we=                 find that damn message.  Exactly what message #                 are we looking for?   > SYSTEM:         Not sure yet, all I have is a number, but it'sD                 probably something like "Welcome to VAX DATATRIEVE".   IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Well...   SYSTEM:         Well what?  1 IMAGE ACTIVATOR: That list of message sections...   C SYSTEM:         Oh yeah.  Well RDBSHR wants RDBMSGS, and not to be   outdone,H                 RDBBSHR wants RDBBMSGS, not to be confused with RDBMSGS,F                 and DTRSHR wants DTRMSGS, and SORTSHR wants SHRIMGMSG,G                 and lots of other guys are asking for SHRIMGMSG also -   but I                 I'm too smart for them.  I'll just get it once and no one .                 will ever know the difference.   IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Working...   G SYSTEM:         And don't forget FDVMSG.  The message might be in there  too.   MONITOR:        OH NO!   SYSTEM:         What is it?   # IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Are you all right?    MONITOR:        An interrupt!    IMAGE ACTIVATOR: An interrupt?  1 MONITOR:        That's what I said, an interrupt. 8                 Image activator: stop what you're doing.  > IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Why?  Just when I was getting the hang of it.  * MONITOR:        The user has typed CTRL/Y.  ? IMAGE ACTIVATOR: Okay, everything has been suspended.  Can I go                  to sleep now?   B MONITOR:        No, you better stick around in case the user wantsG                 to continue.  And notify the exit routines to stand by. H                 And the rundown procedures.  Also, I need moral support.D                 Maybe if I flash a dollar sign in front of his eyes,,                 he'll stop looking so angry.  ; USER:           Computer, I'm really getting tired of this.   ' MONITOR:        But we were so close...    USER:           A likely story.   3 MONITOR:        Well what can I do for you instead?   = USER:           I still want my report.  Let's try some other *                 way of retrieving my data.  A MONITOR:        A wonderful idea sir!  A finer day it couldn't be H                 for looking over your data.  How will you have it today?2                 Sunny side up?  Once over lightly?  $ USER:           How about SCRAMBLED?  A MONITOR:        No problem sir.  Wait one moment while I activate                  ENCRYPTSHR...   . the curtain falls as the dance begins again...           The players:  $         DTR32           VAX DTR V3.1$         DTRSHR          VAX DTR V3.1"         CDDSHR          CDD T3.1-0'         DBMSHR          VAX DBMS V2.2-3          RDBSHR          03-06 $         RDMSHR          Rdb/VMS T1.1>         RDBBSHR         03-05           also known as RDBBSTUB         SORTSHR         V04-000          COBRTL          V04-000          FORRTL          V04-000          LIBRTL          V04-000          MTHRTL          V04-000           FDVSHR          FMS V2.2         LBRSHR          V04-000          SCRSHR          V04-000          EDTSHR          V04-000          SECURESHR       V04-000          VMSRTL          V04-000          BASRTL          V04-000          DTRMSGS         03-05 "         CDDEXC          CDD T3.1-0         DBMMSG          03-03          RDMSMSG         03-05          RDBMSGS         03-06          RDBBMSGS        03-05          SHRIMGMSG       V04-000           FDVMSG          V2.1-003  E         for a grand total of 27 shared images and 153 image sections.    ---END QUOTE---    --  
 Paul Sture   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 15:30:18 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: CIPCA Cards+ Message-ID: <4mdgkaF5osr7U1@individual.net>   G OK, I was going to ask if a CIPCA cardset was supported by any OS other G than VMS, but after actually looking at it, I can see it won't fit into F anything I have (I was told it was for a PC!) so, the question has now) changed.  Are these cards worth anything?    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 07:30:00 -0700 ' From: "syslost" <wm.reynolds@gmail.com> 2 Subject: Re: CIXCD unable to see disks, I think...C Message-ID: <1157725800.752622.270830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   ' The mystery of the Phantom CIXCD solved   > The CIXCD header card is installed in the VAX, but no one ever@ installed the bulkhead at the rear of the cabinet.  The start upE diagnostics are statisfied when they see and talk to the header card.     G The CI (it was set up like this when I started here) is configured as 4 C sc008s in 16-Node dual path, and 2 sc008s in 8-Node dual path.  I'm E going to have to re-visit the cabling and understand what they wanted G from the configuration.  I first had to prove there was a problem, "... B it's been like that forever, and we never had a problem before..."    B I did manage to find a manual for the sc008, and for the cixcd, if  anyone needs a copy let me know.     David J. Dachtera wrote: > syslost wrote: > > G > > VAX 7000-740 VMS 6.2        5 node VAX 7000 CI and Ethernet Cluster  > > J > > When I do a show config at the console prompt, it shows 3 cixcd cards.I > > The machine only has two installed.  A show dev at the console prompt ? > > shows disks on 1 of the cixcds and none on the other cixcd.  > > I > > Why are 3 cixcd cards shown, when only two at physically installed in  > > the VAX?1 > > Should't devices be seen by both cixcd cards?  > H > Depends on how your CI cables are connected. Dual or split SC008? HSJsG > connected to both star couplers? VAX connected to both star couplers?  >  > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > ( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page# > http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/  > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:16:06 GMT * From: "Mark Iline" <system@meng.ucl.ac.uk>* Subject: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS207 Message-ID: <GpbMg.14592$G72.8688@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>   ) Hi, apologies if you've seen this before.   E I'm looking to put about a terabyte of storage on a DS20 (not DS20E),  preferably RAID.  L Having checked with my friendly HP reseller some time ago, it seems HP don't* sell anything supported on a DS20 anymore.  ; Anyone got any pointers to suitable products or suppliers ?      Mark  ( Mark Iline, IT Mgr, UCL Mech Eng, London   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 03:18:20 -0700   From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>. Subject: Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20C Message-ID: <1157710700.468891.112200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    explore the options pageH http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/asds20/asds20_options.html   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:27:28 GMT * From: "Mark Iline" <system@meng.ucl.ac.uk>. Subject: Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS207 Message-ID: <4deMg.10013$WV2.3730@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>   + "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message = news:1157710700.468891.112200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  > explore the options pageJ > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/asds20/asds20_options.html   Thanks for the reply.   J I must admit that I'd assumed my reseller would have referred to this when) they couldn't find me anything supported.   I Looking myself, there are certainly a fair few options there, but I don't ! think there's anything practical.   I With current technology, I'd expect a TB of storage to be achievable with L 3-4 drives. (eg 3 * 500GB drives.) The biggest disk listed on this page is aL 36GB SBB. A fully populated dual pedestal RA3000 only gives about 500GB, and hardly seems cost-effective.  G Hence, I think I need a product that can use large, modern SCSI or SATA # drives, and connect them to a DS20.    Mark   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:48:13 -0700 * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com>. Subject: Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20) Message-ID: <op.tfkbanx5tte90l@hyrrokkin>   H On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:27:28 -0700, Mark Iline <system@meng.ucl.ac.uk>   wrote:  - > "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message ? > news:1157710700.468891.112200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  >> explore the options page K >> http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/asds20/asds20_options.html  >  > Thanks for the reply.  > I > I must admit that I'd assumed my reseller would have referred to this    > when+ > they couldn't find me anything supported.  > K > Looking myself, there are certainly a fair few options there, but I don't # > think there's anything practical.  > K > With current technology, I'd expect a TB of storage to be achievable with K > 3-4 drives. (eg 3 * 500GB drives.) The biggest disk listed on this page    > is aL > 36GB SBB. A fully populated dual pedestal RA3000 only gives about 500GB,   > and  > hardly seems cost-effective. > I > Hence, I think I need a product that can use large, modern SCSI or SATA % > drives, and connect them to a DS20.  >  > Mark > G There are likely more options if you expand your search to "what works" J in addition to what is supported.  For example, you could put 6 large scsiK drives in a BA350/370 shelf,  Of course the transfer rate isn't that great. K I am not familiar with SRM on the DS20 but if it supports wwidmgr you could $ add a Storageworks SAN like an HSG80       --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:03:13 GMT ; From: "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com> . Subject: Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20= Message-ID: <BKeMg.11350$q63.4904@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>    Mark Iline wrote: - > "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote in message ? > news:1157710700.468891.112200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  >  >>explore the options pageJ >>http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/asds20/asds20_options.html >  >  > Thanks for the reply.  > L > I must admit that I'd assumed my reseller would have referred to this when+ > they couldn't find me anything supported.  > K > Looking myself, there are certainly a fair few options there, but I don't # > think there's anything practical.  > K > With current technology, I'd expect a TB of storage to be achievable with N > 3-4 drives. (eg 3 * 500GB drives.) The biggest disk listed on this page is aN > 36GB SBB. A fully populated dual pedestal RA3000 only gives about 500GB, and > hardly seems cost-effective. > I > Hence, I think I need a product that can use large, modern SCSI or SATA % > drives, and connect them to a DS20.  >  > Mark >  >   E One of my customers is a direct mail marketing company and they have  E about 2 TB of storage to archive their hi res artwork on a linux box  H that is mounted as a NFS share on the OpenVMS cluster. This has been in H place for about three years now and has worked quite well. We looked at I putting this on a separate gigabit network but after monitoring the load   that wasn't deemed necessary.   
 Jeff Coffield    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 08:07:39 -0700 1 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) . Subject: Re: Disk Storage for AlphaServer DS20, Message-ID: <aPBqnuMdFqhG@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>  ) In article <op.tfkbanx5tte90l@hyrrokkin>, 1      "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> writes:  >> >>J >> Hence, I think I need a product that can use large, modern SCSI or SATA& >> drives, and connect them to a DS20. >> >> Mark  >>I > There are likely more options if you expand your search to "what works" L > in addition to what is supported.  For example, you could put 6 large scsiM > drives in a BA350/370 shelf,  Of course the transfer rate isn't that great. M > I am not familiar with SRM on the DS20 but if it supports wwidmgr you could & > add a Storageworks SAN like an HSG80 > G     The DS20 supports fibrechannel so I would recommend you look to the K used market and pick up something based on the HSG80. I believe disks up to H at least 146GB are supported and I'd expect that 300GB drives would work	 fine too.   K     You should be able to pick up something like a MA2200 chassis with dual J HSG80 controllers in it and add a 4200 or 4300 series drive shelf to it toA achieve your requirement for 1TB quite easily and fairly cheaply.   P     David Turner at Island Computers (sales@hpaq.net) is a regular in this groupK and I'm sure he could give you a competetive quote for something like this.   K     If you're the adventurous sort you could probably pick the pieces up on * Ebay really cheaply and build it yourself.      ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 07:38:55 -0700 ( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>0 Subject: Re: Encrypted backup questions/conceptsA Message-ID: <1157726335.086377.35440@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>    Guy Peleg wrote:5 > "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote in message ? > news:1157641101.500983.108110@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... . > > Here's my understanding.  On OpenVMS Alpha > > < > > V7.3-2 - encrypted backup if VMS Encryption is installed > >         supported 3 > >         requires purchase of an encrypt license * > >         limited to DES-type encryption@ > >         CDROM boot env. can't create/read encrypted savesets > > = > > V8.2 -    encrypted backup if VMS encryption is installed  > >         Supported 3 > >         No encrypt license, included in OS base * > >         limited to DES-type encryption@ > >         CDROM boot env. can't create/read encrypted savesets > > 4 > > V8.3 -    can do encrypted backup out of the box > >         Supported 3 > >         No Encrypt license, included in OS base , > >         DES and newer encryption formats> > >         CDROM boot env. CAN create/read encrypted savesets > > J > > So V8.2 and earlier can use encrypted savesets for data, image backupsG > > of non-system disks, or non-image (and hence non-fully-recoverable) J > > system disk backups, but only V8.3 has the ability to make clean imageD > > backups to (and recover from) an encrypted saveset via the CDROM > > environment. > > K > > And although I know Hoff doesn't like it, we do have the customers make K > > regular online image backups of the system disk with /IGNORE=INTERLOCK; J > > the systems are quiesced as much as possible (only backup is running).I > > Its not possible to take the systems down for the CDROM based backups I > > so this is the best available option (no mirrors/shadows/swanky SANs; K > > these are single DS10 installations).  If we have to encrypt the system I > > disk backup (corporate policy, or privileged data on the system disk, D > > etc) then only the V8.3 CDROM environment can restore it on that > > system.  > > I > > If upgrade to V8.3 is not possible, but a V8.3 media kit is acquired, H > > then we could keep perform the encrypted online backups as required,H > > and use the V8.3 CDROM for any standalone functions.  Since the V8.3J > > online backup encryptions is supposed to be upward compatible with theI > > earlier encrypt layered product, that should work; we would just need E > > to be certain of the encryption used in the standalone backups if E > > there's a chance they would need to be read by the V8.2 or V7.3-2  > > running system.  > > J > > And finally... if you use the CDROM environment for restores, then youH > > can't use a keyfile/keyring for the encryption because it may not beH > > available in the read only environment (unless perhaps its kept on aE > > floppy, or a reburned OS CD-R which has the relevant files tucked H > > somewhere on that disk).  You would need to use a straight 'password > > style' key instead.  > > G > > Does this sound correct?  Thanks.  Still waiting for V8.3 media but ( > > testing on V8.2 as much as possible. > >  > >  > > Rich > >  > : > Officially, encrypted BACKUP can't be performed from the= > standalone environment....especially when using the new AES  > formats with V8.3  > E > Encryption requires both SSL & Encrypt to be installed, this is not $ > the case with the distirbution CD. >  > Guy  >    Guy,F      thanks.  That does pose a real crimp in usage for the product, atF least the way the customers were hoping to use it.  Customer data willC need to be backed up specially, and excluded from system disk image % backups, or left off the system disk.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:45:43 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGH Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host0 Message-ID: <00A5B69A.DE775311@SendSpamHere.ORG>  h In article <1157642005.720260.30420@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes: >  >  >  >Christopher Lusardi wrote:  >> Tom Linden wrote:< >> > On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 06:57:59 -0700, Christopher Lusardi  >> > <clusardi2k@aol.com> wrote: >> >* >> > > My question is on the subject line. >> > > >> > > Thank you,  >> > > Christopher Lusardi >> > > >> >H >> > When posting this type of question you should indicate the IP stack >> > and VMS version.  > F >Can you post the output of SHOW SYSTEM? That should give us a clue as >to which stack you're using.     You might garner more info from:   $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL    --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 07:38:49 -0500  From: briggs@encompasserve.orgH Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host3 Message-ID: <BP5nN9nnCJhz@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <1157658692.066980.53110@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> writes:  >    "TWG$TCP" = "...$COMMON:"  2 Wollongong.  Fire up the wayback machine, Sherman.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:43:07 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> H Subject: RE: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostT Message-ID: <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B868401A11EAC@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>  H > >Can you post the output of SHOW SYSTEM? That should give us a clue as > >to which stack you're using.  >=20" > You might garner more info from: >=20 > $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  >=20 > --=20 7 > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker  =20  > VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM >           =20 9 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"=20  >=20  ! Re: $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL   G Hey - I did not know that command .. Who says you don't learn something 
 every day eh?   % Note that the Multinet equivalent is:    $ MU show /all=20   F Btw - not that I would expect anything else, but both of these work onB my lab/home VMS 8.3 systems as well .. (some Multinet, some TCPIP)   :-)    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 13:20:10 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host+ Message-ID: <4md90aF58jc9U2@individual.net>   9 In article <RdqdneN8vsn-nZzYnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@libcom.com>, * 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > I > Aw, don't be that way.  How about this question.  How do I find the IP  " > address on my Windoz 3.1 system?  * Depends, are you running DHCP or not?  :-)   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 08:13:15 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host3 Message-ID: <PMLB7R8Qx9lL@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <4500F05C.5057B9E1@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > I > $TCPIP SHOW INTERFACE  is another. This shows all configured interfaces   C    Nope.  This doesn't work on any of my computers and from what we E    now know, I don't think it will work on the OP's computer, either.   B    Your assuming he has a sufficiently recent version of UCX/TCPIP1    Services.  That already apears to be not true.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 06:38:17 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostC Message-ID: <1157722697.904699.242190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote: ? > In SHOW SYSTEM, do you see any UCX ? Any MULTINET ? any CMU ?   ) There is no process name containing that.    Christopher Lusardi    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 06:48:00 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostC Message-ID: <1157723280.133040.304110@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>    VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: " > You might garner more info from: >  > $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL    > $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL @ %DCL-W-MAXPARM, too many parameters - reenter command with fewer
 parameters  \"TCP/IP"\WORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  
 Chris Lusardi    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 06:52:50 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostB Message-ID: <1157723570.290842.136360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > Christopher Lusardi wrote: > J > > I can use DECnet (set host) from one machine to another, but I want to. > > learn how to do it using telnet or rlogin. >  >    Hello Christopher,  > P >    Please first realize that providing terse responses slows down your gettingN > the answers you need and want -- details can and do help, error messages andM > output can and do help.  One-line questions such as those that started this J > thread off are surprisingly difficult to answer -- the question and yourQ > requirements and your goals are undoubtedly patently obvious to you, but may or Q > may not be nearly obvious to me.  Background helps us.  Details of goal(s) help P > us.  Version number(s) and platforms help us.  Etc.  Taken together, this dataO > and this supporting material can folks target your question, and can help get P > you the answer you want and need.  The background can also help you to receiveM > alternatives; other approaches -- different techniques, tools or solutions. K > (Please don't take this the wrong way, either -- no offense is intended.)  > M >    Based on my initial read of the thread here, it appears you don't have a J > TCP/IP stack either installed, or you do have one and it is not started. >  >    The command:  >   >    DIRECTORY SYS$SYSTEM:UCX*.* > R >    Will show a bunch of files if you have TCP/IP Services installed.  (There areO > other IP stacks, this is the one that is/was offered by DIGITAL/Compaq/HP and L > that is compatible with the OpenVMS VAX V5.5-2 series of OpenVMS releases.J > There are other third-party IP stacks around, as well, though I'm not as2 > familiar with the management of those products.)   $ DIRECTORY SYS$SYSTEM:UCX*.* ! %DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found    >  >    The DCL command >  >    $ UCX SHOW VERSION  > O >    Can also potentially tell you if you have TCP/IP Services installed.  (And R > what version of it.  Clearly a version prior to V5.0, but there were a number ofK > such versions.  I'd expect to see a V4.* version installed here.)  If the K > command works, you might have parts at least installed, and might need to P > configure and start it.  If the command errors and/or if you see no files fromP > the previous DIRECTORY command, then you likely don't have the TCP/IP Services > IP stack installed.)   $ UCX SHOW VERSIONF %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling  \UCX\  
 Chris Lusardi    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 13:53:01 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host+ Message-ID: <4mdattF5lp23U1@individual.net>   C In article <1157722697.904699.242190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, 3 	"Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> writes:  >  > JF Mezei wrote: @ >> In SHOW SYSTEM, do you see any UCX ? Any MULTINET ? any CMU ? > + > There is no process name containing that.   ? Probably because an earlier post showed that the box is running  Wollongong!!  :-)    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 06:54:24 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostB Message-ID: <1157723664.271513.39550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Main, Kerry wrote:J > > >Can you post the output of SHOW SYSTEM? That should give us a clue as! > > >to which stack you're using.  > > $ > > You might garner more info from: > > ! > > $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  > >  > > --4 > > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker > > VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > 8 > >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" > >  > # > Re: $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  > I > Hey - I did not know that command .. Who says you don't learn something  > every day eh?  > ' > Note that the Multinet equivalent is:  >  > $ MU show /all >    $ MU show /allF %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling  \MU\   
 Chris Lusardi    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 07:01:33 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostC Message-ID: <1157724093.319358.197230@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:- > "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>:  > I >    Assuming that it's installed and running properly, and that it's not 
 > too old: > < >       RUN TWG$TCP:[PATHWAY_ADMIN]PATHWAY$LIST_SOFTWARE.EXE >  > Mine says:
 >       [...]  > , > (I put "..." above to keep private stuff.)   Installed PathWay Products:  -------------------------- ...    I do not see anything useful.    >  > 5 >    If it's not already set ("SHOW SYMBOL NETSTAT"):  > D >       NETSTAT == "$TWG$TCP:[NETDIST.USER]NETSTAT"   !!! As needed.  , >    Configuration information should be in: > + >       TWG$TCP:[NETDIST.MISC]STARTINET.COM  > H > It might be readable by anyone, or it might not.  (Mine is.)  Look for
 > "ifconfig".   * $ type TWG$TCP:[NETDIST.MISC]STARTINET.COMF %TYPE-W-OPENIN, error opening TWG$COMMON:[NETDIST.MISC]STARTINET.COM;2 as input? -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation    >  > 
 >    Also: >  >       HELP @PATHWAY  >       HELP @PATHWAY Pathway  > ; > If it's too old, look for "WIN/TCP" or something similar.    Nothing displayed  >  > G >    Best advice of all, talk to the local system manager, because with I > your concept of privacy (and your apparent expectations of clairvoyance D > from everyone else), you're unlikely to get much more help in thisJ > forum.  I'm certainly not likely to start up my VAXstation 2000 again toH > do any more research for anyone who seems so intent on wasting so much > of everyone else's time.   I'll ask him later!   
 Chris Lusardi    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 06:43:06 -0700 0 From: "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostC Message-ID: <1157722986.223128.308730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Rob Brown wrote:" > What was your command line?  Try > I >    $ SEARCH/MATCH=AND/WINDOW=5 SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_V5.COM "@",STARTUP  >  > or maybe just  > 7 >    $ SEARCH/WINDOW=5 SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_V5.COM "@"   3 I don't see anything useful produced by the search.    Christopher Lusardi    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:41:51 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostJ Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-ACB1CA.15415108092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  3 In article <PMLB7R8Qx9lL@eisner.encompasserve.org>, =  koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:   8 > In article <4500F05C.5057B9E1@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei ( > <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > > K > > $TCPIP SHOW INTERFACE  is another. This shows all configured interfaces  > E >    Nope.  This doesn't work on any of my computers and from what we G >    now know, I don't think it will work on the OP's computer, either.  > D >    Your assuming he has a sufficiently recent version of UCX/TCPIP3 >    Services.  That already apears to be not true.   G As Steven Schweda has already spotted, it appears to be the Wollongong   stack.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:13:39 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> H Subject: RE: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of HostT Message-ID: <FA60F2C4B72A584DBFC6091F6A2B868401A11FAE@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----: > From: Christopher Lusardi [mailto:clusardi2k@aol.com]=20! > Sent: September 8, 2006 9:54 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com @ > Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete=20 > Name Of Host >=20 >=20 > Main, Kerry wrote:B > > > >Can you post the output of SHOW SYSTEM? That should give=20 > us a clue as# > > > >to which stack you're using.  > > > & > > > You might garner more info from: > > > # > > > $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  > > >  > > > --6 > > > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker > > > VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > > : > > >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" > > >  > > % > > Re: $ SHOW NETWORK "TCP/IP" /FULL  > > > > > Hey - I did not know that command .. Who says you don't=20 > learn something  > > every day eh?  > > ) > > Note that the Multinet equivalent is:  > >  > > $ MU show /all > >  >=20 > $ MU show /allH > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling >  \MU\  >=20 > Chris Lusardi  >=20  E Chris - as others have noted, it appears your VMS server is running a C very old TCPIP pkg which does not support these current TCPIP stack 	 commands.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:25:06 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host9 Message-ID: <DoednfblDqblFJzYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@libcom.com>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:; > In article <RdqdneN8vsn-nZzYnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@libcom.com>, , > 	Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:J >> Aw, don't be that way.  How about this question.  How do I find the IP # >> address on my Windoz 3.1 system?  > , > Depends, are you running DHCP or not?  :-) >  > bill >   3 I don't see anything useful produced by the search.    :-)    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 10:59:34 -0500 (CDT)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)H Subject: Re: How Do I Determine The IP Address And Complete Name Of Host2 Message-ID: <06090810593455_2027FAC5@antinode.org>  .    "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com>:  > > >       RUN TWG$TCP:[PATHWAY_ADMIN]PATHWAY$LIST_SOFTWARE.EXE   > Installed PathWay Products:  > -------------------------- > ...  >  > I do not see anything useful.   A    I do not see anything useful either, but in _my_ case it's not C because I'm such a moron as to think that the information displayed 6 would be as useless to everyone else as it was to you.    , > $ type TWG$TCP:[NETDIST.MISC]STARTINET.COMH > %TYPE-W-OPENIN, error opening TWG$COMMON:[NETDIST.MISC]STARTINET.COM;2
 > as inputA > -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation   8    Are you sure that you're not revealing too much here?  E    Hey, moron.  I suppose that it's pointless to ask if you tried the G "netstat -in" command, which would have been the one to give you the IP G address, so I won't.  It's been fascinating dealing with you.  It's not H often that one encounters such concentrated stupidity.  I'm awestruck by yours.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 02:26:23 -0700   From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>+ Subject: HP announces new Integrity servers C Message-ID: <1157707583.852900.172570@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   
 press release : http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2006/060907xa.html  8 There is a a special web site for this product launch at$ http://www.hp.com/go/integritysept06  4 Reply of webcast at http://hpbroadband.com/integrity   (VMS is mentioned :-)   E hp are claiming impressive price/performance figures and I think they  look very nice :-)   What do people think of these?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:45:37 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) / Subject: Re: HP announces new Integrity servers [ Message-ID: <rdeininger-0809060745360001@dialup-4.233.173.229.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   H In article <1157707583.852900.172570@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net> wrote:   >press release; >http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2006/060907xa.html  > 9 >There is a a special web site for this product launch at % >http://www.hp.com/go/integritysept06  > 5 >Reply of webcast at http://hpbroadband.com/integrity  >  >(VMS is mentioned :-) > F >hp are claiming impressive price/performance figures and I think they >look very nice :-)  >  >What do people think of these?    I like them.   But I suppose I'm biased.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:44:08 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>/ Subject: Re: HP announces new Integrity servers G Message-ID: <P7adnU-63IIlHJzYnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    Ian Miller wrote:  > press release < > http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2006/060907xa.html > : > There is a a special web site for this product launch at& > http://www.hp.com/go/integritysept06 > 6 > Reply of webcast at http://hpbroadband.com/integrity >  > (VMS is mentioned :-)  > G > hp are claiming impressive price/performance figures and I think they  > look very nice :-) >   > What do people think of these?  I I'm waiting to see large-system TPC-C results:  my guess is that they'll  H still have difficulty matching POWER5 even using twice as many cores as G IBM does to achieve their 3.21M score (let alone POWER5+'s 4+M score),  ? but it's possible that the new, warmed-over Superdome internal  B architecture will do better than I expect (any other large-system 1 commercial benchmarks out there yet to compare?).    - bill   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 07:39:34 -0500  From: briggs@encompasserve.orgY Subject: Re: Is There Something Besides The FTP Command To Copy A File Between Two VMS Co 3 Message-ID: <2X3E15$cTcov@eisner.encompasserve.org>   t In article <1157659768.211260.38970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Christopher Lusardi" <clusardi2k@aol.com> writes:% > My question is on the command line.   % The answer to your question is "Yes".    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:47:31 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>5 Subject: Re: MinVMS or CD backup and volume shadowing , Message-ID: <Tt7Mg.41364$ub5.29604@trnddc07>   Dale Dellutri wrote:@ > We have an alphaserver DS25, VMS 8.2.  We're going to create aB > shadow set with two data disks for the first time.  My questions< > are about backup/restore, specifically using MinVMS or the: > mini-VMS you get by booting the VMS 8.2 Installation CD. > A > 1. Currently we have MinVMS on DISK1 (a data disk, not a system  > disk), installed via: 0 >    $ @sys$system:axpvms$pcsi_install_min DISK1 > It's used as follows:  >   a. shutdown the system# >   b. boot from root SYSE on DISK1 ; >   c. make special backups (for example, a good image copy  >     of the system disk) : >   d. shutdown MinVMS and re-boot the normal system disk. > That all works fine.  3 Is DISK1 the system disk, or one of the data disks?   5 If it's a data disk, I take it you can't just quiesce 7 (make it close all files) or shut down the application, 9 and back up the data disk with online backup.  If you can 9 do that, it would probably be much quicker than doing all  those reboots.   > = > However, DISK1 is going to become one of the two disks in a @ > shadow set (assume the other disk is DISK2).  I think I should< > take MinVMS off DISK1 and put it on another (non-shadowed)< > data disk because using MinVMS as shown above would change= > DISK1 (log files in the SYSE hierarchy and so on), and when : > when I re-booted, DISK1 would be inconsistent with DISK2; > so that re-forming the shadow set would require some kind  > of copy or merge.  >  > Right?  ? I think so, since you are booting from one member of the shadow # set, but without shadowing enabled.      > > > 2. Are MinVMS or the mini-VMS system that you get by booting= > the VMS 8.2 Installation CD aware of shadow sets?  In other 9 > words, when I am in the MinVMS environment, can I mount " > DISK1 and DISK2 as a shadow set? >   8 You could probably hack it so that the shadowing license= was in the LMF of the "MinVMS", along with the right settings : for the shadowing sysgen parameters, but then you wouldn't; have a quiet copy of the data disk for source of the backup 5 since both copies would be members of the shadow set.   ? However, if you only wanted to use this environment for backing % up the system disk, it would be fine.   ; I think you would be much better off booting from the CD or 2 installing the "MinVMS" environment on a 3rd disk.  < Then you could mount one member of the shadow set (disk1: or9 disk2:, your choice) /nowrite and back it up.  Since it's 8 write-locked, it won't get modified, so when you reboot,# it won't do a shadow copy or merge.    Same with the system disk.  = For full volume restores, you will need to mount one of DISK1 B or DISK2: /foreign, then overwrite it.  You could then identically> restore the other one, or (I think this would be much faster),< init the other one or mount it /override=shadow to clear the< shadowing information, then reboot.  The system startup will< mount the restored disk, then you can manually add the other= disk to the set and the shadow copy will restore it.  (Or you 9 could automate this by putting mount/copy commands in the = system startup, but that could be dangerous.)  You do need to < be careful because the restored copy will be an older shadow< generation than the other disk, and shadowing will naturallyA try to overwrite it by doing a shadow copy from the "newer" disk.   C Advantages of the CD environment:  1) Safe from accidental changes, A 2) really read-only, 3) known and static environment so there are < no suprises.  (If you are doing a full-volume data or system; restore, something has gone horribly wrong and people might  be slightly panicky.)   > Advantages of the "minVMS" environment:  1) You can rebuild it: any time, which will cause it to include the latest backup: and device driver ECOs, in case you have an issue with you= backups that one of the ECOs fixes, 2) you can script it with ; DCL command files in it, so the operations people only need < to type "@BACKUP_SYSTEM", "@BACKUP_DATA", "@RESTORE_SYSTEM",9 etc., and the command file can prompt them for tape drive : names, sanity check the disks, etc., rather than having to= type a series of non-trivial mount and backup commands.  (You > could also put these command files on a disk and use them from? the CD environment, but then the ops people would have to mount 8 the disk and "set default" there, greatly increasing the: complexity, i.e. 3 commands vs. 1 to accomplish anything.)% 3) Probably boots faster then the CD.      > [Bonus question:= > 3. What are the official names of what I've called "MinVMS" 8 > and "the environment you get when you boot the VMS 8.2< > installation CD"?  And if they don't have names, shouldn't > they?] >    No idea :-)   ( How about Fred and Shirley?  (Cue JF...)   --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:59:19 +02000 From: "Peter \"Firefly\" Lund" <firefly@diku.dk>> Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...: Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609080959040.3656@ask.diku.dk>  & On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Dave Froble wrote:  5 > I certainly didn't approve or sign any such treaty.   ! The United States of America did.    -Peter   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:05:58 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...J Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-B83C0A.14055808092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  C In article <1157679862.710342.143390@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, &  "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote:   > Dave Froble wrote:  J > > A bit like the current debate about whether Pluto is a planet.  Do anyF > > of these people really think the universe gives a damn about their; > > semantics?  Do their names change things in any manner?  > A > It changes what you put on children's place mats! Of course the H > universe doesn't care, but how do you answer "What are all the planets1 > in the Solar System"? It affects this question.  >  > " > C'mon. Pluto is *not* a nit. &-) > A > (Yes, I know you weren't *really* referring to Pluto as a nit.)  >   3 But my burning question on the subject of Pluto is:   5 If he were still alive, what would Walt Disney think?    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 08:10:43 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...3 Message-ID: <KrSi$XTF$yOw@eisner.encompasserve.org>   | In article <paul.sture.nospam-B83C0A.14055808092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>, Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> writes:  5 > But my burning question on the subject of Pluto is:  > 7 > If he were still alive, what would Walt Disney think?  >   C    Walt still has to answer for a mouse that has a dog for a friend     and a dog for a pet.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 08:08:44 -0500 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...3 Message-ID: <wTR+o$577XYB@eisner.encompasserve.org>   m In article <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609080439400.3656@ask.diku.dk>, "Peter \"Firefly\" Lund" <firefly@diku.dk> writes:   > On Fri, 7 Sep 2006, AEF wrote: > F >> gave us the kibibyte and the gibibyte. ... Are we next going to say >> it's 72 Farenheits? > J > No, because it is not an SI unit.  Preferably, you will begin saying 22 = > degrees Celcius, which is at least related to an SI unit ;)  > K > Oh, and could you please start living up to the Treaty of the Meter from  ' > 1875?  That would be nice, thank you.   4    No.  We'll keep using the right tool for the job.  E    Kelvin is good for doing physics, it reflects physical principles, F    setting 0 at the bottom and borrowing the already accepted division    size from Celcius.   @    Celcius is good for doing chemistry, it reflects the needs ofA    chemists, setting 100 divisions from the freezing point to the D    boiling point of water,adn arbitrarily setting 0 at thre freezing	    point.   G    Farenheit designed his scale to be usefull in measuring the weather, C    setting divisions from the 0 for coldest to the 100 for warmest  I    day at a location in the temperate zone, and its still the best scale  C    for doing weather over most of the populated zones of the Earth.       The right tool for the job.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:34:39 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...9 Message-ID: <s_KdnRr_7_0qFpzYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@libcom.com>    Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: ( > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Dave Froble wrote: > 6 >> I certainly didn't approve or sign any such treaty. > # > The United States of America did.  >  > -Peter    I didn't approve their doing so.  5 Perhaps you should be discussing the issue with them.   , I'll continue to use what I'm familiar with.  G When someone tells me something is 180 degrees, I know not to grab it.  C If they said it was 85 degrees, I might grab it prior to doing the   conversion.  No thanks.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-0450> Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com DFE Ultralights, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:07:15 +02000 From: "Peter \"Firefly\" Lund" <firefly@diku.dk>> Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...; Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609081904450.16255@ask.diku.dk>   & On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Dave Froble wrote:  " > I didn't approve their doing so.  J You didn't approve of their ratifying the constitution either, did you? ;)   -Peter   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:27:15 +02000 From: "Peter \"Firefly\" Lund" <firefly@diku.dk>> Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...; Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609081908340.16255@ask.diku.dk>   & On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Bob Koehler wrote:  5 >   No.  We'll keep using the right tool for the job.  > F >   Kelvin is good for doing physics, it reflects physical principles,G >   setting 0 at the bottom and borrowing the already accepted division  >   size from Celcius.  G The Kelvin scale is very good -- but a bit cumbersome for everyday use.   J Anyway, the important nit was that the unit is just called Kelvin and not F degrees Kelvin.  Degrees are for angles and legacy temperature scales.  A >   Celcius is good for doing chemistry, it reflects the needs of B >   chemists, setting 100 divisions from the freezing point to theE >   boiling point of water,adn arbitrarily setting 0 at thre freezing 
 >   point.  @ Actually, Anders Celcius arbitrarily did it the other way round! It was fixed after his death.   H >   Farenheit designed his scale to be usefull in measuring the weather,C >   setting divisions from the 0 for coldest to the 100 for warmest I >   day at a location in the temperate zone, and its still the best scale D >   for doing weather over most of the populated zones of the Earth.  I I think computers can handle both negative numbers and numbers with more   than three digits these days ;)   D For humans, try counting syllables for various numbers on the three C scales.  It is not clear to me that the Fahrenheit scale is better.   G And the 100 degrees point was set after the human body temperature (or  J that of a horse), something that is difficult to measure and that varies. ) And he didn't get it quite right, anyway.    >   The right tool for the job.   J At least MY legacy temperature scale fits nicely with the SI units AND is  easier to calibrate ;)   Anyone rooting for Reaumur?    -Peter  I Postscript: He most likely was taught how to make proper thermometers by  F Ole Roemer.  The Wikipedia article on Fahrenheit talks about Roemer's H scale as if he only had one.  Roemer had a nice side business of making H custom thermometers with different scales, lengths, and active material  depending on the intended use.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 09:01:23 -0700 * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> Subject: psftp) Message-ID: <op.tfkhglg8tte90l@hyrrokkin>   0 I attempt to get a file from a VMS system to W2k   psftp> get STARLET.ZIPI remote:/dpli$/decpli/starlet/cia20060906/STARLET.ZIP =3D> local:STARLET.=  ZIP I error while reading: received a short buffer from FXP_READ, but not at E=  OF psftp>  ( I can fetch the file using ftp, however.  I I realize this likely a PuTTY question, just curious if anyone here has =   =   seen
 this problem.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2006 11:45:22 -0500  From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: Re: psftp3 Message-ID: <LeyY6kEANtD9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <op.tfkhglg8tte90l@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> writes:2 > I attempt to get a file from a VMS system to W2k >  > psftp> get STARLET.ZIPK > remote:/dpli$/decpli/starlet/cia20060906/STARLET.ZIP =3D> local:STARLET.=  > ZIP K > error while reading: received a short buffer from FXP_READ, but not at E=  > OF > psftp> > * > I can fetch the file using ftp, however. > K > I realize this likely a PuTTY question, just curious if anyone here has =  >  = >  > seen > this problem.   B It sounds like the VMS server is trying to read from the .ZIP fileB which is presumably a file of 512 byte fixed length records.  WhenB reading from such a file you expect that the read of the very lastB record may come back shorter than 512 bytes because the last block@ in the file may not be completely full.  But in this case we got= a something less than 512 bytes back before hitting that last  record.   5 $ DIRECTORY /FULL your-file.ZIP could be informative.   < And looking at the EOF, FFB and maybe LRL fields in the file; header could potentially yield some information.  One could 1 do that with $ DUMP /HEADER or F$FILE_ATTRIBUTES.   A But that may not be telling you anything you didn't already know.   = Taking a completely wild guess, we may have a fencepost issue = where EOF=2, FFB=0 instead of EOF=1, FFB=512.  Or vice versa. A I don't remember offhand which of those is conventional and which = is unconventional.  I do remember that what F$FILE_ATTRIBUTES F tells you is manufactured information.  DUMP /HEADER is the real deal.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:57:07 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>* Subject: Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware* Message-ID: <TC7Mg.41366$ub5.646@trnddc07>   Neil Rieck wrote:  > Folks, > N > I've just turned up HP's SAMBA 3.0 (a.k.a. CIFS a.k.a. Common Internet File 9 > System) for the first time today and it is really cool. N > (and some M$ support people in my group are really pissed now that we might O > be serving up their support files from OpenVMS rather than having them do it  + > from their Windows 2003 Server platform.)  > M > Out of the gate, this product only works with "TCPIP Services for OpenVMS"  I > (on OpenVMS-8.2 or higher) but the following unsupported download from  I > Process Software is all you need to get it working with TCPware and/or   > Multinet.  > = > ftp://anonymous:cifs@ftp.multinet.process.com/cifsfiles.zip  >   C When clicked on using SWB 1.4 (on VMS 8.3 I64), it pops up a window  saying: C "550 %%RMS-E-DNF, directory not found:/anoymous_root/cifsfiles.zip"   5 I guess they aren't ready to release it publicly yet.      > kudos to both HP and PSC >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.# > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/  >  >      --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:03:13 +0200 + From: Martin Vorlaender <mv@pdv-systeme.de> * Subject: Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware+ Message-ID: <4md0veF57dccU1@individual.net>    John Santos wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote: > >> ftp://anonymous:cifs@ftp.multinet.process.com/cifsfiles.zip > E > When clicked on using SWB 1.4 (on VMS 8.3 I64), it pops up a window 	 > saying: E > "550 %%RMS-E-DNF, directory not found:/anoymous_root/cifsfiles.zip"   : When I do an anonymous FTP from the commandline, it works.   cu, 	    Martin  --  D One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de H One OS to bring them all      | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:09:02 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> * Subject: Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware< Message-ID: <45014dc7$0$24178$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com>  - "John Santos" <john@egh.com> wrote in message $ news:TC7Mg.41366$ub5.646@trnddc07... > Neil Rieck wrote:  [...snip...] > > > When clicked on using SWB 1.4 (on VMS 8.3 I64), it pops up a0 > window saying: "550 %%RMS-E-DNF, directory not& > found: /anoymous_root/cifsfiles.zip" > 7 > I guess they aren't ready to release it publicly yet.  > E Just off the top of my head, "anonymous" is misspelled in your error  H message. This might be caused by your FTP client because the link still ; works for me from WS FTP PRO. (but please continue reading)        ###   K After appealing for help on the info-vax mailing list, I received these PSC H zipped files from 3 other people so I'm assuming they are public domain.J Also, there is no embedded copyright notice -and- a Google search revealedL that PSC has sent these files to HP for incorporation into HP's CIFS releaseD so I'm hoping PSC doesn't get ticked-off for me reposting them here:  = http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/openvms_notes_cifs.html   L p.s. I found a couple of DCL syntax errors in these scripts which I am goingC to send back to PSC today. I'll post the corrections here tomorrow.   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.! http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:37:40 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec> * Subject: Re: SAMBA 3.0 (CIFS) with TCPware. Message-ID: <oudMg.40$yc6.34@news.cpqcorp.net>   Neil Rieck wrote:  > M > After appealing for help on the info-vax mailing list, I received these PSC J > zipped files from 3 other people so I'm assuming they are public domain.L > Also, there is no embedded copyright notice -and- a Google search revealedN > that PSC has sent these files to HP for incorporation into HP's CIFS releaseF > so I'm hoping PSC doesn't get ticked-off for me reposting them here:  F Most of the code in those files has been readily available as part of  earlier SAMBA 2.x ports.  ? > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/openvms_notes_cifs.html  > N > p.s. I found a couple of DCL syntax errors in these scripts which I am goingE > to send back to PSC today. I'll post the corrections here tomorrow.   C Those command files will only apply to the "Evaluation Release" of  C Openvms CIFS.  Future versions of OpenVMS CIFS will do some things   differently.  I Please send any corrections to OpenVMSCIFS(at)hp.com as an update to the  6   evaluation release is currently under internal test.   -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.hp.compaq.dec  Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.493 ************************