1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 12 Sep 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 500       Contents: Re: Accounting Questions# Re: All is not well at the HP board # Re: All is not well at the HP board  Re: Auto reboot fails on DS10  BADIRECTORY and suspect CPU 
 Re: CETS 2001  mtools, specifically mcopy Re: mtools, specifically mcopy Re: mtools, specifically mcopy Re: mtools, specifically mcopy5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... 	 Re: psftp  Running vim from remote node. $ Re: SYS$CRELNM Access Mode / FORTRAN  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2006 15:22:54 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ! Subject: Re: Accounting Questions 3 Message-ID: <V7U30eHs2TZZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   d In article <1157992494.862610@proxy.dienste.wien.at>, "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> writes: > Larry Kilgallen: > I >> A lot of codes in STARLET are _not_ used.  Many people will not bother G >> trying to figure out their purpose until you can prove that they are  >> ever found in nature :-)  > M > That's true, of course. But since these symbols already existed in VMS 5.5, I > (and perhaps in earlier versions), I don't think they are "reserved for  > futureN > use", so I assume they are still here as placeholders for meanwhile obsolete6 > features, and I just was curious to know which ones.  F Certainly they could be "reserved for future use" and then never used.F The purpose could be only known to the person who originally wrote the0 code, and may no longer work in VMS development.  C Remember, VMS guarantees binary compatibility, so it is seldom that A anyone would shift the numbers down.  And the next person working @ in that area, and their job is to add something new, not to look- to see whether an existing code is ever used.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:24:50 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board, Message-ID: <45060C5E.343959FF@teksavvy.com>   "Michael D. Ober" wrote: > I > If the HP board has any sense, they wouldn't give Ms Dunn the chance to ( > resign.  They would outright fire her.  H One article I read said that at least 3 board members have said that MrsG Dunn kept the whole board up to date on the investigation. If the board A was on-sode with Dunn's endeavours, then Dunn is less of a direct 3 target, and HP as a corporation becomes the target.   B Another allegation was that Perkins remained suppportive of Dunn'sF efforts until the investigation narrowed on his friend (the leaker) at# which point Perkins went ballistic.   ; So looks like the board is spinning the story in many ways.   G BTW, Hurd also supported measures to stop leaks to the media to a point H where he siad he would personally fire any HP employee caught talking toH the media without HP's permission.  (I take it this means HP cannot makeF any sales to media outlets because sales persons would be fired on the spot !).   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:40:37 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board, Message-ID: <45063A35.63FC5D38@teksavvy.com>   Plot thickens:  / http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5334754.stm    A Congressional committee has 5                       ordered Hewlett Packard (HP) to 5                       handover records related to its 5                       internal inquiry into boardroom                        leaks.      H The US House Energy and Commerce Committee is the latest organisation to
 wade into the >                       so-called "spying scandal" at the firm.     D (To make sure I didn't misquote the article, I didn't even fixup theF formatting from the cut/paste operation, so this way, nobody can blame5 me from misreading/interpreting/quoting the article).    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2006 12:49:41 -0700' From: "tadamsmar" <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> & Subject: Re: Auto reboot fails on DS10B Message-ID: <1158004181.681156.19350@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>   Tom Linden wrote: L > On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 06:55:30 -0700, tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com> wrote: > B > > I have an Alphaserver DS10 that does not automatically reboot. > > I > > I get the message "DQA0.0.0.0.13.0 has no media present or is disable H > > via RUN/STOP switch" when the system rebooted due to a power outage. > > D > > It use to reboot OK.  But now it halts and I have to enter the B > > command. > > ( > > I wonder if anyone can explain this? > >  >  > What does  > * > WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETENV("Auto_action") > 	 > return?    Halt  7 Did not know how to check that with the system running.   6 Don't know how it got set to "Halt" but I will fix it.  % Can I set it with the system running?   	 Thanks!!!    >  > --G > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2006 15:00:31 -0700. From: "Ger_Marsh" <marsh_family@btconnect.com>$ Subject: BADIRECTORY and suspect CPUB Message-ID: <1158012031.740757.238110@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Hello VMSers  F Firstly, please forgive me my omissions as I do not have access to the VMS system at present.   Here's the scenario:  E FDDI cluster with two nodes on each of two sites - a few miles apart.   B We intend to upgrade the 8200's to GS60's and we installed the newB CPU's on the remote site without a problem. The remote site can be@ brought into play as a contingency system at short notice so the@ intention was to allow the processors to bed in. (Live apps onlyA running on another 8200 but MSCP served to remote site via remote  shadowing.)   E After replacing the original 4 CPUS with the 6 new ones on the remote ? site, we tested the apps as if it was running live, albeit in a  controlled and minimal manner.  F On the following Monday when the apps were brought up for real we wereF notified of some particularly nasty problems whereby directory lookupsF failed. During the next two weeks we had only two other occurrences of suspected directory corruption.    Here follows a precis of facts:   D 1. The problem hits only directories and large ones (> 1000 blocks);E 2. On one occasion the problem solved itself - ANAL/DISK showed files 2 out of order then ran ok without any intervention!B 3. Replaced HSZ's as they were suspect except problem re-occurred;D 4. After major housekeeping on directories and moving the MSCP to an1 SCSI linked DS20, the problem has not reoccurred; E 5. Attempts to break it by SET PATH with a specific disk and creating 8 and manipulating a large directory has failed miserably;1 6. No relevant hardware errors detected anywhere!   C HP are on the case and have advised to set checksumming on the VC's  using SCACP.  : As the cluster has been running for about 10 years withoutD checksumming, I'd be grateful if someone could explain to me whetherG implementing the /CHECKSUMMING would make a difference to the integrity G of the intra-cluster comms and, if so, why haven't we seen it thus far? E We've seen a couple of checksum errors over the last few weeks. Would % they have gone undetected previously?   @ I have been informed that only CPU 0 would be servicing the MSCPF traffic on the remote node. I would be very suprised if this processorC has problems which only manifest themselves as corrupt directories.   D If it wasn't for the fact that the new CPUs have been supporting theB applications and have had a bit of a hammering, I would definitelyE suspect them. However, I cannot see how a CPU-induced disk corruption ) could fix itself on subsequent ANAL/DISK.    Now for the usual apologies:: Firstly, sorry about the jabberings - my mind just dumped!= Secondly, sorry if anyone has trouble reading this due to the 9 abbreviating of ANALYZE to four letters which upsets some  over-enthusiastic filters!  G Fairplay for HP, they are bringing in the resources on this one but I'd B love to know if anyone out there has experienced anything similar.  ( Bye for now and keep that flag a'flying,   Gerald.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:42:20 -0700 4 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> Subject: Re: CETS 2001% Message-ID: <1158003726.325440@smirk>    davidc@montagar.com wrote:  E > I'll never forget CETS 2001.  It was the worst, and yet, it was the A > best event I ever attended.  Thank you Sue, and countless other J > speakers, attendees, workers, staff, and friends that made it a success.  F My wife and I had planned for a big party to follow CETS2001 on FridayE afternoon and evening.   We got a lot of inquiries  asking if we were D calling it off.   HELL, NO!   We're not going to let a bunch of nut H cases keep us from having a good time with all our DEC/Compaq/DECUS/CETS friends.  C As it turned out, the attendance was somewhat different than we had A expected.   A lot of the east coast and midwest people had rented B cars & vans and left immediately to drive home.   A few dropped byH to say hello (and grab a few snacks and bottles of soda) before leaving.  G But the people from overseas didn't have that option, so we had a *lot* F of people from other countries attending.   Some I only knew as a faceF from the symposium, but all were welcome.   I didn't want them sittingF in a lonely hotel bar, worrying about what might be happening at home.  H With the addition of our local friends from both the science fiction andB computer communities, it was one of the most successful parties weH have ever had.   Lively discussions on every conceivable topic continuedF until the wee hours.   It was our way of demonstrating that terrorists) were not going to change our way of life.    Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:55:01 -0600 $ From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net># Subject: mtools, specifically mcopy 1 Message-ID: <1158010978_897@sp6iad.superfeed.net>   E Over the weekend I got my PWS600au up and running again. My hobbiest  ? licenses had expired of course 8-) but I had a new set to load.   C How to get the license files from an NT box to the 600? No network, @ no serial port access. Both machines have floppies but VMS can'tC natively utilize M$ FAT formatted diskettes anymore than NT can use  files-11 formatted diskettes.   6 I ended up burning a coaster, for 36 KB of text files.  C So now my question. Is there a VMS port or adaptation 8-) of mcopy, > one of the mtools package. If so, where can I find a copy? ForC those unfamiliar with mtools it is a package for unix or linux that * provides access to M$ formatted diskettes.   TIA,   Jeff Campbell N8WXS     Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:58:25 -0600 $ From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net>' Subject: Re: mtools, specifically mcopy 2 Message-ID: <1158014781_1661@sp6iad.superfeed.net>   Paul Sture wrote: 3 > In article <1158010978_897@sp6iad.superfeed.net>, ( >  Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net> wrote: > H >> Over the weekend I got my PWS600au up and running again. My hobbiest B >> licenses had expired of course 8-) but I had a new set to load. >>F >> How to get the license files from an NT box to the 600? No network,C >> no serial port access. Both machines have floppies but VMS can't F >> natively utilize M$ FAT formatted diskettes anymore than NT can use  >> files-11 formatted diskettes. >>9 >> I ended up burning a coaster, for 36 KB of text files.  >>F >> So now my question. Is there a VMS port or adaptation 8-) of mcopy,A >> one of the mtools package. If so, where can I find a copy? For F >> those unfamiliar with mtools it is a package for unix or linux that- >> provides access to M$ formatted diskettes.  >> > $ > It's on the VMS Freeware V5.0 CDs: > J > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware50/MTOOLS/freeware_readme.txt >    Thanks for the quick pointer!    Jeff Campbell N8WXS   Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:55:34 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)' Subject: Re: mtools, specifically mcopy 2 Message-ID: <06091118553494_20200290@antinode.org>  $ From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net>  G > Over the weekend I got my PWS600au up and running again. My hobbiest  A > licenses had expired of course 8-) but I had a new set to load.   H    That's "hobbyist", unless you meant "most hobby", as in the sequence: hobby, hobbier, hobbiest.   E > So now my question. Is there a VMS port or adaptation 8-) of mcopy, @ > one of the mtools package. If so, where can I find a copy? ForE > those unfamiliar with mtools it is a package for unix or linux that , > provides access to M$ formatted diskettes.  E    Did you try anything like a Google search for, say, "mtools vms"?  A For some more current code, than the Freeware V5 stuff, you might 	 consider:   ,       http://antinode.org/dec/sw/mtools.html  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:42:45 -0600 $ From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net>' Subject: Re: mtools, specifically mcopy 2 Message-ID: <1158021041_1763@sp6iad.superfeed.net>   Steven M. Schweda wrote:& > From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net> > H >> Over the weekend I got my PWS600au up and running again. My hobbiest B >> licenses had expired of course 8-) but I had a new set to load. > J >    That's "hobbyist", unless you meant "most hobby", as in the sequence: > hobby, hobbier, hobbiest.   ) Well, it *is* the penultimate hobby!  8-)    > F >> So now my question. Is there a VMS port or adaptation 8-) of mcopy,A >> one of the mtools package. If so, where can I find a copy? For F >> those unfamiliar with mtools it is a package for unix or linux that- >> provides access to M$ formatted diskettes.  > G >    Did you try anything like a Google search for, say, "mtools vms"?  C > For some more current code, than the Freeware V5 stuff, you might  > consider:  > . >       http://antinode.org/dec/sw/mtools.html    Thanks! and thanks for the port!   > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 5 >    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 6 >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818 >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    Jeff Campbell N8WXS   Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:10:19 GMT ' From: jls <jeffls-nospam@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...8 Message-ID: <d3dbg21puri072rg7luu1cgc314hqlc5rk@4ax.com>  ; On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:07:15 +0200, "Peter \"Firefly\" Lund"  <firefly@diku.dk> wrote:  ' >On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Dave Froble wrote:  > # >> I didn't approve their doing so.  > K >You didn't approve of their ratifying the constitution either, did you? ;)  >   D Actually, I did.  Every minute that I spend here, rather than moving+ to a different country, I show my approval.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:03:28 GMT . From: Jack Patteeuw <jack.patteeuw@nospam.net> Subject: Re: psftp9 Message-ID: <AHnNg.663$IA.214@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>    Paul Sture wrote: + > In article <op.tfpwo0vjtte90l@hyrrokkin>, . >  "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com> wrote: > K >> BTW,  I inadvertently did a TYPE on a binary file which put the terminal M >> into a state where the character set displyed is very strange.  Is there a  >> way to reset it?  > @ > Simply invoke EDIT/TPU (without a file name), then hit CTRL-Z. >     ' That works, but this has more "style" !    $ sho sym resetvt <    RESET*VT == "@SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE:[JPATTEEU.VMS]RESETVT.COM"1 $ type SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE:[JPATTEEU.VMS]RESETVT.COM  $ so[0,8] = 14          !^N  $ si[0,8] = 15          !^O  $ esc[0,8] = 27 > $ sel_US_G0 := 'esc'(B          !select US character set as G0: $ sel_line_G1 := 'esc')0        !select line drawing as G1+ $ write sys$output sel_US_G0,sel_line_G1,si  $ exit   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2006 18:15:39 -0700# From: "Charles" <ceharon@gmail.com> & Subject: Running vim from remote node.A Message-ID: <1158023739.224639.7620@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   ) I can't seem to get vim to run internode.   A I have a command procedure (setvim.com) that sets the logical and  symbol on the local node.   ; $ define VIM "VimNode""''p1' ''p2'""::dka100:[vim.runtime]"  $ vi*m :== mcr vim:vim.exe  D When I run "vi somefile.txt".  I get an image error loading vim.exe.D The path on the remote node is correct, and vim runs fine locally on
 "VimNode".  ; Am I missing some configuration setting on the remote node?    Thanks,  Charles    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:53:31 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org- Subject: Re: SYS$CRELNM Access Mode / FORTRAN 3 Message-ID: <8K+i8Vmvh937@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <1157985114.445817.74060@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, wendzinski@yahoo.com writes: C > What value do I use to specify executive access mode in the third G > argument of SYS$CRELNM in FORTRAN?  Is there something similar to the G > 'LNM$PROCESS', 'LNM$JOB', etc. that is used in the fourth argument to  > specify logical table?   	include		'($PSLDEF)'  	type *, psl$c_exec  	end   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.500 ************************