1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 12 Sep 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 501       Contents: add node to DECps # Re: All is not well at the HP board # Re: All is not well at the HP board # Re: All is not well at the HP board # Re: All is not well at the HP board  Re: Auto reboot fails on DS10  Re: Auto reboot fails on DS10  FOCUS application, written in?& Re: HP announces new Integrity servers$ HP supported DVD writer for V/A 8.3?P Re: Image Activation and Protections  (was Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea MP Synchronization ISSUES 5 Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude... P Re: Possible major protection change in Itanium VMS (Was Re: You didn't order thP Re: Possible major protection change in Itanium VMS (Was Re: You didn't order th Reconstructing a DECW$BOOK file # Re: Reconstructing a DECW$BOOK file ! Re: Running vim from remote node. ! Re: Running vim from remote node. " You didn't order the Metallic Pea?& Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea?& Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 09:05:20 -0700' From: "syslost" <wm.reynolds@gmail.com>  Subject: add node to DECpsC Message-ID: <1158077120.759307.225340@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   , VAX OpenVMS 6.2      5 node VAX 7000 cluster  E We added 2 nodes to the cluster bringing it to 5 nodes.  How do I add C the 2 new nodes to DECps to collect performance information.  DECps E runs on 3 of the nodes, but when I try to start it on either of the 2  new nodes I get:   NPC-TNTV6> advise collect start ; %PSDC-F-MISNODENAME, Missing nodename, not in schedule file  NPC-TNTV6>    0 How do I add the new nodes to the schedule file?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:10:37 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board, Message-ID: <45064F48.451F2443@teksavvy.com>  @ AT&T , which is reportedly involved in this "scandal" because itH divulged personal data to "anyone" has reportedly hired John Ashcroft to defend its position.  D Verizon President Larry Babbio is an  HP boardmember who "presumablyB knew what was going on", and Verizon is trying to ensure it is not involved in this story.   F Another aspect being discussed: Dunn may stand to make much more moneyE if she is fired than if she resigns on her own, so this may impact on J the timing and method of announcing she woudl no longer be a board member.  H When you look at La Carly, she had made public political intentions, andG it was rumoured she would be offered a big job at the current regime. I H suspect that when she looked at the money, she probably decided that theE golden parachute for being fired was just too big to foregoe, even if K being fired meant that her short term political aspirations were shot dead.     F How much do board chairmen do (when they are not also CEO) ? Is Dunn'sC job at HP worth a lot of money with big golden parachute/contract ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:16:24 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board, Message-ID: <450650A2.F32061DD@teksavvy.com>   Interesting one:  A The HP boardroom is lighted solely  with electricity generated by - Hewlett and Packard spinning in their graves.    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 08:04:44 -0700  From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>, Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP boardC Message-ID: <1158073483.970867.145400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Z http://news.com.com/Leak+scandal+costs+HPs+Dunn+her+chairmans+job/2100-1014_3-6114655.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:31:50 -0700 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> , Subject: Re: All is not well at the HP board+ Message-ID: <ee6ndm$ida$1@naig.caltech.edu>    Ian Miller wrote: \ > http://news.com.com/Leak+scandal+costs+HPs+Dunn+her+chairmans+job/2100-1014_3-6114655.html > U *************************************************************************************    September 12, Palo Alto.  A At a hastily scheduled news conference the HP Board of Directors  ? announced today that effective immediately the company's slogan ? has been changed from "Invent" to "The buck doesn't stop here". > Said CEO Mark Hurd, "The new slogan better fits the way we nowD do business."  Chairwoman Patricia Dunn added, "I thank God everyday= for the HP Standards of Business Conduct handbook, without it @ I would have nothing with which to wipe my ass."  The board alsoB announced that they were awarding themselves a large and extremelyF lucrative stock option as compensation for their recent extraordinary : service to the company, and were leaving immediately for a> two month long group vacation in Tahiti.  During their absence; a new policy is in effect: all (other) HP employees are now & required to  memorize the contents of:   S http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/ethics/index.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN      S ***********************************************************************************    Regards,   David Mathog   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:04:40 +0200 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at>& Subject: Re: Auto reboot fails on DS105 Message-ID: <1158059081.129741@proxy.dienste.wien.at>   
 tadamsmar:  G > I get the message "DQA0.0.0.0.13.0 has no media present or is disable F > via RUN/STOP switch" when the system rebooted due to a power outage.   In console (>>>) mode, try   >>> SHOW AUTO_ACTION  6 and ensure that it is set to "BOOT". If it isn't, do a   >>> SET AUTO_ACTION "BOOT"  > You may also check the value of BOOTDEF_DEV and ensure that it points to your system disk.   E In addition, some systems (don't know the DS10) have a HALT-Button on 1 the front. Ensure that this button isn't pressed.   H Just for curiosity: what is DQA0 on your system? Isn't it a CD-ROM whereK the media was removed from (because of the "has no media present" message)?    Greetings, Ferry   --   Ing Ferry Bolhar  Magistrat der Stadt Wien - MA 14 A-1010 Wien  E-Mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:53:31 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>& Subject: Re: Auto reboot fails on DS10, Message-ID: <ee673r$jf0$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  8 "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> wrote in message / news:1158059081.129741@proxy.dienste.wien.at...   G > In addition, some systems (don't know the DS10) have a HALT-Button on 3 > the front. Ensure that this button isn't pressed.   I Not only does it have a halt button but it's recessed and kind of sticky. 3 Easily in but not easily out, as the lobster said.     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:29:22 -0500 + From: brandon@dalsemi.com (BRANDON, JOHN M) ' Subject: FOCUS application, written in? 1 Message-ID: <06091211292201@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   P Does anyone know what the FOCUS application is written in?  COBOL?  FORTRAN? ???   TIA!     John "REBOOT" Brandon  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 08:39:51 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) / Subject: Re: HP announces new Integrity servers 3 Message-ID: <E7jhu0KOP$+k@eisner.encompasserve.org>   r In article <6PidncdBWra2e5zYnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: >>  3 >> Cool.  How fast does VMS run on the Power5+ 4+M?  > J > I'm not sure how that would be relevant to this sub-topic, unless HP is G > actually touting price/performance metrics for VMS on Superdome (see  H > above context).  That would be great, since I can't remember the last : > time VMS's owners bothered to benchmark anything on VMS.  2    Oh, I'd bet SIMH runs pretty good on that chip.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 10:35:10 -0700! From: "Rod" <rregier@dymaxion.ca> - Subject: HP supported DVD writer for V/A 8.3? C Message-ID: <1158082510.193039.269850@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   E V/A 8.3 has been released.  I have reviewed the SPD and related Alpha  hardware support documentation.   B I have been unable to find an HP-supported DVD *writer* for Alphas running V/A 8.3.  D (I suspect this an artifact of Alpha qualified hardware support list( being frozen before the release of 8.3).  F Can anyone tell me directly or point me at an HP reference source that@ describes a DVD writer that is supported for OpenVMS/Alpha V8.3?  A My educated guess is that any IDE DVD+R capable writer will work. G I'm hoping to try out the  LITEON 8X DVDRW INTERNAL SLIM, SLOT-IN model 	 SLW-831-S 6 as a possible DS10L IDE backup solution under V/A 8.3.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:55:12 -0400 , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>Y Subject: Re: Image Activation and Protections  (was Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea * Message-ID: <4506ca4d@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  M    I'm operating one bug back right now.  As for the previous bug around the  H crash in the $audit_event[w] call, I'm going to need that crashdump I'd P requested earlier.  Please post a pointer to an FTP server where I can pull it, K or I can provide a pointer to a server where it can be pushed.  (If you've  K already posted the FTP address under one of these "fortune cookie" subject  L lines, can you point to which one -- the pointer hasn't shown up yet in the N Google Groups searches, which is unfortunately all I have to find the threads  sometimes.)   N    Several of us have been looking at this report, and have reviewed the code F within the system service call -- there looks to be more to the local O environment of this particular $audit_event[w] call around this crash than can  N be replicated locally.  If it's junk at the end of the itemlist, we'd want to R see what junk -- but as stated, we're currently reviewing the OpenVMS source code.       And thank you for the report.   Richard Maher wrote:" > Yet more deviant IA64 behaviour? > N > Is it just me, or does a process on IA64 need both Execute *and* Read accessK > to a shareable image to be able to simply execute it? NOT LINK OR LIB$FIS  > AGAINST IT, just run it.  T    Image file and directory protections and context and OpenVMS I64 version, please?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:33:18 -0500 + From: brandon@dalsemi.com (BRANDON, JOHN M) " Subject: MP Synchronization ISSUES1 Message-ID: <06091211331797@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   > I have 2 servers DS20 (2x cpu's) and 1 server ES40 (4x cpu's).  5 All three servers run FOCUS (and various other app's)   N I was recently testing the performance of the job-streams on these servers andM found that my MP Synchronization was nominal on the DS20's and extremely high  on the ES40.   For example, 10% or less on the DS20  100% to 200% on the ES40  " Any reason why the big difference?E King of defeats the purpose of having multiple CPU's (my speculation)      John "REBOOT" Brandon  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 08:38:30 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) > Subject: Re: OT: IA64's speed beaten by orders of magnitude...3 Message-ID: <pNxCBel7Fm7a@eisner.encompasserve.org>   N In article <8764fxij4t.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>, prep@prep.synonet.com writes:? > koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:  > A >>    Farenheit designed his scale to be usefull in measuring the F >>    weather, setting divisions from the 0 for coldest to the 100 forD >>    warmest day at a location in the temperate zone, and its stillG >>    the best scale for doing weather over most of the populated zones  >>    of the Earth.  > F > Where do you spend your summers Bob? You know that the 100F standard4 > come from the rectal temperature of a Reindeer? ;)  C    It comes from the high one year in a locale in Germany, Munich I 	    think.   D    You can put the reindeer to bed with a bad joke about the next to8    last planet's pronunciation, or third to last, or ...   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:26:34 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>Y Subject: Re: Possible major protection change in Itanium VMS (Was Re: You didn't order th < Message-ID: <_cBNg.30690$89.19740@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  A I've just changed the title of this thread as it looks like spam.    Ian Miller wrote:  > I can also see a difference. > F > I performed a quick test using a username with no privs and changingH > the protection of SYS$SHARE:MAILSHR.EXE. If I change the protection toF > W:E from W:RE on VMS I64 V8.3 then on entering the MAIL command when& > logged in as the unprived user I get > $ mail > 1 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image MAILSHR  >  > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file2 > TEST11$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]MAILSHR.EXEI > -SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation  >  > H > If I do the same test on VMS ALPHA V8.2 then I get the MAIL> prompt as > expected.  > MAILSHR is installed.  > < > I await with interest a reply from a knowledgeable person. >    Original Thread starter   3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>  Newsgroups: comp.os.vms + Subject: You didn't order the Metallic Pea? % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:22:10 +0800      Hi,     Yet more deviant IA64 behaviour?  L Is it just me, or does a process on IA64 need both Execute *and* Read accessI to a shareable image to be able to simply execute it? NOT LINK OR LIB$FIS  AGAINST IT, just run it.  K This would be a huge change! Only someone whose arrogance obscures any view H of reality could even attempt to pass this off without a release note. I must be wrong again.  K Wait! Maybe this could explain that wonderful piece of Hoffmanesque Spin: -   F  > >    I'd likely look to use an identifier; to avoid the privileges.  F That's it! Steve has known, well in advance, *all* of the precious VMSJ functionality that has simply been thrown away by IA64 (Like being able toI LINK a big image) so he is out there snapping at the heals of us stinking K sheep customers telling us that SOGW is rubbish and "look into my eyes" you K have never been able to call out from a UWSS "you are feeling sleepy. . .".    Alles Klar!    Regards Richard Maher   J PS. When you begin to look at the parallels between Itanium and the Family' Truckster it becomes truly frightening!    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:33:42 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>Y Subject: Re: Possible major protection change in Itanium VMS (Was Re: You didn't order th = Message-ID: <GjBNg.55745$H03.11449@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>    Alan Greig wrote:   G >> I performed a quick test using a username with no privs and changing I >> the protection of SYS$SHARE:MAILSHR.EXE. If I change the protection to G >> W:E from W:RE on VMS I64 V8.3 then on entering the MAIL command when ' >> logged in as the unprived user I get 	 >> $ mail  >>2 >> %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image MAILSHR >> >> -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file 3 >> TEST11$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]MAILSHR.EXE J >> -SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation >> >>I >> If I do the same test on VMS ALPHA V8.2 then I get the MAIL> prompt as  >> expected. >> MAILSHR is installed.  I Just out of curiosity does it make a difference if an Install Replace is  A performed after the protection change on either Alpha or Itanium?  --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:25:40 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ( Subject: Reconstructing a DECW$BOOK file, Message-ID: <450660DA.FD824827@teksavvy.com>  J This is just more a question of understanding what goes on under the hood.  : The VMS web site contains a link to a DECW$BOOK (the FAQ).. http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq.decw$book  C The HP webserver, oblivious to VMS file formats, serves the file as G application/octet-stream. MOSAIC righfully saves it as a binary file in * the common 512 fixed record length format.  F BOOKREADER of course expects variable length records with no RAT=none.  E Since the transfer from the HP web server to me was in binary form, a B simple SET FILE/ATTRIB=RFM=VAR should fix it, with the system thenF expecting every 2 bytes at the start of a record to indicate length of record. Right ?   F If that does not work, is this a undeniable proof that the file on theE HP web server is actually corrupt ? Or are there other reasons why it A may have been corrupted between the HP web server and my system ?     H I am thinking that whoever moved the file to the HP web server forgot toH force a binary transfer mode, and the software, seeing a variable formatG file, used a text mode transfer, replacing the record length words with B CR/LF, and once back on my system, there would be no record lengthF words, and trying to convert from a LF or CR/LF file to variable wouldG mess things up because of the possibility of CR and/or LF characters as  part of the binary data.    " Is that a correct interpretation ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:33:39 +0200 + From: Martin Vorlaender <mv@pdv-systeme.de> , Subject: Re: Reconstructing a DECW$BOOK file+ Message-ID: <4mnr9gF6m4n4U1@individual.net>    JF Mezei schrieb: < > The VMS web site contains a link to a DECW$BOOK (the FAQ).0 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq.decw$book > E > The HP webserver, oblivious to VMS file formats, serves the file as I > application/octet-stream. MOSAIC righfully saves it as a binary file in , > the common 512 fixed record length format. > H > BOOKREADER of course expects variable length records with no RAT=none.  . When I download the "omnibus zip archive" from) http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/faq_all.zip  and unpack it on VMS, I get:   $ dir/fu VMSFAQ.DECW$BOOK;1   $ Directory USER_DISK:[USER.MV.VMSFAQ]  3 VMSFAQ.DECW$BOOK;1            File ID:  (5150,26,0)  ...  File organization:  Sequential Shelved state:      Online  Caching attribute:  WritethroughG File attributes:    Allocation: 2310, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0 %                      No version limit I Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 32254 bytes  Record attributes:  None RMS attributes:     None ...   G So the ZIP file seems to have been generated on a VMS system with "-V".    cu, 	    Martin  --  D One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de J One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:48:57 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> * Subject: Re: Running vim from remote node.E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0609120940250.30783@localhost.localdomain>   # On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, Charles wrote:   = > $ define VIM "VimNode""''p1' ''p2'""::dka100:[vim.runtime]"  > $ vi*m :== mcr vim:vim.exe  ? ( $ vi*m :== $vim:vim.exe is more common, but I think yours is   equivalent.)  G > When I run "vi somefile.txt".  I get an image error loading vim.exe.  G > The path on the remote node is correct, and vim runs fine locally on   > "VimNode".  > Please report the exact error message, as well as VMS version.  < Is the error message different from what do you get when you      $ RUN VIM:VIM.EXE   ?   ? Typing HELP/MESSAGE after the error occurs might enlighten you.   = > Am I missing some configuration setting on the remote node?   , I won't guess until I see the error message.     --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o m6 G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (780)438-9343 (voice)4 Edmonton                         (780)437-3367 (FAX)2                                   http://gmcl.com/   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:14:53 -0400 , From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>* Subject: Re: Running vim from remote node.* Message-ID: <4506ceec@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Charles wrote:  F > When I run "vi somefile.txt".  I get an image error loading vim.exe.  H    Um, an "image error"?  Would you mind providing a few details of the 9 particular error(s) seen when the image invocation fails?    	--   L    There are copies of vim or vile on various versions of the Freeware, and M there's a vile on the Freeware V8.0 distro that was recently released.  (I'm  K receiving more vile ports than vim ports, the most recent vim was on V6.0.)   )    http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/freeware/   O    The whole-disk zip archives for the Freeware V8.0 three-disk CD set are now  P available online for download, FWIW.  (The directories of the distribution have ( been posted for a while now, obviously.)   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:22:10 +0800 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> + Subject: You didn't order the Metallic Pea? 1 Message-ID: <ee6c42$sn6$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi,     Yet more deviant IA64 behaviour?  L Is it just me, or does a process on IA64 need both Execute *and* Read accessI to a shareable image to be able to simply execute it? NOT LINK OR LIB$FIS  AGAINST IT, just run it.  K This would be a huge change! Only someone whose arrogance obscures any view H of reality could even attempt to pass this off without a release note. I must be wrong again.  K Wait! Maybe this could explain that wonderful piece of Hoffmanesque Spin: -   C >    I'd likely look to use an identifier; to avoid the privileges.   F That's it! Steve has known, well in advance, *all* of the precious VMSJ functionality that has simply been thrown away by IA64 (Like being able toI LINK a big image) so he is out there snapping at the heals of us stinking K sheep customers telling us that SOGW is rubbish and "look into my eyes" you K have never been able to call out from a UWSS "you are feeling sleepy. . .".    Alles Klar!    Regards Richard Maher   J PS. When you begin to look at the parallels between Itanium and the Family' Truckster it becomes truly frightening!    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 07:52:12 -0700  From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>/ Subject: Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea? B Message-ID: <1158072732.786544.92250@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   I can also see a difference.  D I performed a quick test using a username with no privs and changingF the protection of SYS$SHARE:MAILSHR.EXE. If I change the protection toD W:E from W:RE on VMS I64 V8.3 then on entering the MAIL command when$ logged in as the unprived user I get $ mail  / %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image MAILSHR    -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file0 TEST11$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]MAILSHR.EXEG -SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection violation     F If I do the same test on VMS ALPHA V8.2 then I get the MAIL> prompt as	 expected.  MAILSHR is installed.   : I await with interest a reply from a knowledgeable person.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Sep 2006 07:58:01 -0700  From: "Ian Miller" <ijm@uk2.net>/ Subject: Re: You didn't order the Metallic Pea? C Message-ID: <1158073081.827548.100180@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   < A further test on VMS I64 V8.2-1 reveals the same behaviour.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.501 ************************