1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 18 Sep 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 512       Contents:O Re: Digital Server 5305 (ALPHAserver 1200) power consumption when switched off)  f11cd : Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06: Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06: Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06 Re: FTP strangeness  Re: FTP strangeness 5 Re: MicroVAX II up on ebay with no bids, 6 hours left P Re: Mozilla Thunderbird with VMS (was:Re: VMS MAIL:  Will it ever join the 21st  UNZIP Install for VMS? Re: UNZIP Install for VMS? Re: UNZIP Install for VMS? Re: UNZIP Install for VMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 17 Sep 2006 19:27:12 -0700( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>X Subject: Re: Digital Server 5305 (ALPHAserver 1200) power consumption when switched off)C Message-ID: <1158546432.037617.277050@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: E > I have a Digital Server 5305 (converted to an ALPHAserver 1200 by a G > quick modification of the firmware).  It is configured as a satellite F > and I only boot it when I need to run CSWB.  (No other systems in myG > cluster at the moment are powerful enough, but the 5305 uses too much H > power to keep on all the time.)  I notice that when it is switched offI > the casing near the upper of the two power cords remains warm, so it is  > drawing some current.  > D > How much?  Does only the upper power cable draw current when it is > switched off?  > G > Obviously, if I only boot it when I need CSWB and otherwise switch it H > off, that makes no sense if it continues to draw an appreciable amountE > of current.  On the other hand, could physically removing the power  > cable have bad effects?  > I > (Some ALPHAservers have a "soft" power switch on the front and a "hard" H > one on the back.  That's not the case with the 5305, though, which has > only the former.)  > I > A side question: what is the least powerful system (CPU, memory, cache) I > which is capable of running CSWB at an "acceptable" speed for "average"  > web pages?  F I consider my PWS600au to be acceptable with CSWB, especially with theC 4D20 Powerstorm card in it, and I've used a PWS433au briefly and it F seemed OK.  I've also tried it on a DS10 6/600 and it was _very_ nice;. if I could afford one that would be my choice.  A Are small online power meters available in Europe?  I've got a P3  Kill-a-watt (see it atE http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html ) C but its for US spec power.  I bought mine at Amazon for about $30 a E couple years ago and its great for determining things like power draw E and usage (its one of the reasons I could justify the cost of a DS10L C from Islandco early this year to replace my room heater AS600 5/333  web/mail/etc server)   Rich   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:20:33 +0200 * From: nierveze <alain.nierveze@wanadoo.fr> Subject: f11cd6 Message-ID: <450da00e$0$25937$ba4acef3@news.orange.fr>  I hello everyone,is it possible (and legal) that someone send me the f11cd  F kit to read iso cd on an old vms5.5 vax ?I need that for a friend ,he G has only a rf31 hard drive ,and I think it is better to stay with this  @ version of vms ,the more recent could be too big for that small ' disk.thanks best regards alain nierveze % if some one has it please email it to  nierveze@radio-astronomie.com  thanks   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Sep 2006 19:31:33 -0700( From: "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com>C Subject: Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06 C Message-ID: <1158546693.617793.166710@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Paul Sture wrote: , > In article <450C8308.9070603@comcast.net>,1 >  bradhamilton <bradhamilton@comcast.net> wrote:  >  > > Hans Bachner wrote: 8 > > > Peter Weaver <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> wrote:	 > > [...]  > > >>> Perhaps no one won! K > > >> I had the same thing when I replied at 16:15, I figured he was being 5 > > >> flooded with email and turned off the account.  > > > P > > > No, the account has been unresponsive at least since Wednesday. I receivedG > > > "message is still undelivered" messages after 4, 8, and 24 hours.  > > > 9 > > > Use the mail address in Dave's signature, it works.  > > 6 > > But the original post had a different requirement: > > N > > > 7th Email to dturner@icusc.com gets a free Alphaserver DS10L 466Mhz with$ > > > 30GB IDE disk and 256MB memory > > J > > I followed up with an inquiry ex post facto to the above address (wellL > > after the "offer" was over, but I just couldn't resist seeing if I might > > get something free - :-))  > H > Methinks David is going come in for some ribbing at least, come Monday > :-)  >  > -- > Paul Sture  F Didn't they switch to some wintel system for email and/or web services	 recently?    Or was that something else?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:25:06 -0400 / From: "William Webb" <william.w.webb@gmail.com> C Subject: Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06 I Message-ID: <8660a3a10609172125q372e53d3kf4423d833120e517@mail.gmail.com>   F On 17 Sep 2006 19:31:33 -0700, Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote: >  > Paul Sture wrote: . > > In article <450C8308.9070603@comcast.net>,3 > >  bradhamilton <bradhamilton@comcast.net> wrote:  > >  > > > Hans Bachner wrote: : > > > > Peter Weaver <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> wrote: > > > [...]  > > > >>> Perhaps no one won! M > > > >> I had the same thing when I replied at 16:15, I figured he was being 7 > > > >> flooded with email and turned off the account.  > > > > R > > > > No, the account has been unresponsive at least since Wednesday. I receivedI > > > > "message is still undelivered" messages after 4, 8, and 24 hours.  > > > > ; > > > > Use the mail address in Dave's signature, it works.  > > > 8 > > > But the original post had a different requirement: > > > P > > > > 7th Email to dturner@icusc.com gets a free Alphaserver DS10L 466Mhz with& > > > > 30GB IDE disk and 256MB memory > > > L > > > I followed up with an inquiry ex post facto to the above address (wellN > > > after the "offer" was over, but I just couldn't resist seeing if I might > > > get something free - :-))  > > J > > Methinks David is going come in for some ribbing at least, come Monday > > :-)  > >  > > -- > > Paul Sture > H > Didn't they switch to some wintel system for email and/or web services > recently?  >  > Or was that something else?  >  >   > I believe that was the case, as some here razzed him about it.   WWWebb   --   Ajilon Consulting  Site resident at Quest Diagnostics = first.x.last@f$edit(contents of previous line,"COMPRESS").com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:47:19 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> C Subject: Re: FREE DS10L Starting at 3:20pm Friday 15th September 06 , Message-ID: <450E24C5.BA18264A@teksavvy.com>  L > > > Methinks David is going come in for some ribbing at least, come Monday  D One easy solution to this: he should give free systems to anyone whoF sent him an email within a couple of hours of the deadlines on friday.H He'll still make money with the additional gizmos people will order (CD, graphic cards, shipping etc).   ? At the very least, he should have announced who the winner was.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: FTP strangeness, Message-ID: <eekhm0$3m0$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  M In article <eejp7r$ps9$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes: V >In article <12gmuf2rbaj5d4@corp.supernews.com>, "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate> writes:O >>My reading of the RFC, possibly flawed, is that for the LIST command, 550 is  L >>not one of the "valid" returns from the server (OVMS).  Have I misread or  >>misunderstood this?  >> > I >What permanent error reply-code (ie 5xx number) do the manufacturers of  - >SmartFTP suggest an ftp server should send ?  >   6 I thought i'd check what other non-vms ftp servers do.M So I downloaded and installed the, free for personal use, cerberus ftp server E which runs under windows - available from http://www.cerberusftp.com/   * This also uses 550 as a valid reply code -  ) Sep 17 22:51:02  0  LIST ftproot/test/x.y 1 Sep 17 22:51:02  0  150 Opening data connection   - Sep 17 22:51:02  0  550 List command failed       O Cerberus gives this response if the file doesn't exist or the directory doesn't < exist but doesn't give this response for an empty directory.G Dec TCPIP services on the otherhand also gives a 550 reply for an empty  directory.        
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University      K >Also note that RFC 959 is NOT the final word on all things to do with FTP. $ >Please see RFC 1123 which states :- >  >  >  >"4 >4.1.2.11  FTP Replies: RFC-959 Section 4.2, Page 35 >  > G >            A Server-FTP MUST send only correctly formatted replies on G >            the control connection.  Note that RFC-959 (unlike earlier B >            versions of the FTP spec) contains no provision for a) >            "spontaneous" reply message.  >  >  > G >            A Server-FTP SHOULD use the reply codes defined in RFC-959 B >            whenever they apply.  However, a server-FTP MAY use aE >            different reply code when needed, as long as the general H >            rules of Section 4.2 are followed. When the implementor hasD >            a choice between a 4xx and 5xx reply code, a Server-FTPI >            SHOULD send a 4xx (temporary failure) code when there is any H >            reasonable possibility that a failed FTP will succeed a few >            hours later.  >  >" >   >550 Requested action not taken.A >             File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access).  > M >is a valid RFC 959 section 4.2 reply-code and hence MAY be used when needed. M >The fact it is not listed against the LIST command in section 5.4 of rfc 959 B >would appear to be overridden by the above statement in RFC 1123. >  >  >David Webb  >Security team leader  >CCSS  >Middlesex University  >  >  >  >>: >>"Cluster-Karl" <karl.rohwedder@gmx.de> wrote in message ? >>news:1158316788.056323.186190@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  >>> Here is part of  RFC 959:0 >>> G >>> RFC 959                                                     October  >>> 1985 >>> File Transfer Protocol+ >>>         550 Requested action not taken. C >>>             File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access).  >>> 1 >>> Btw. also the HGFTP client sends a 550 error.  >>>  >>> regards Kalle  >>>  >> >>   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:35:32 +1000 # From: "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate>  Subject: Re: FTP strangeness0 Message-ID: <12gs1flfi0jls16@corp.supernews.com>  K Thanks for that info, I have passed it on to the SmartFTP support (without  8 names!) to see if that helps them sort this out for VMS.   Cheers  , <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in message & news:eejp7r$ps9$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...< > In article <12gmuf2rbaj5d4@corp.supernews.com>, "Gremlin"  > <not-here@all.mate> writes: L >>My reading of the RFC, possibly flawed, is that for the LIST command, 550  >>isK >>not one of the "valid" returns from the server (OVMS).  Have I misread or  >>misunderstood this?  >> > I > What permanent error reply-code (ie 5xx number) do the manufacturers of . > SmartFTP suggest an ftp server should send ? > L > Also note that RFC 959 is NOT the final word on all things to do with FTP.% > Please see RFC 1123 which states :-  >  >  >  > " 5 > 4.1.2.11  FTP Replies: RFC-959 Section 4.2, Page 35  >  > G >            A Server-FTP MUST send only correctly formatted replies on G >            the control connection.  Note that RFC-959 (unlike earlier B >            versions of the FTP spec) contains no provision for a) >            "spontaneous" reply message.  >  >  > G >            A Server-FTP SHOULD use the reply codes defined in RFC-959 B >            whenever they apply.  However, a server-FTP MAY use aE >            different reply code when needed, as long as the general H >            rules of Section 4.2 are followed. When the implementor hasD >            a choice between a 4xx and 5xx reply code, a Server-FTPI >            SHOULD send a 4xx (temporary failure) code when there is any H >            reasonable possibility that a failed FTP will succeed a few >            hours later.  >  > "  > ! > 550 Requested action not taken. A >             File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access).  > G > is a valid RFC 959 section 4.2 reply-code and hence MAY be used when  	 > needed. K > The fact it is not listed against the LIST command in section 5.4 of rfc   > 959 C > would appear to be overridden by the above statement in RFC 1123.  >  >  > David Webb > Security team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >  >  >  >>9 >>"Cluster-Karl" <karl.rohwedder@gmx.de> wrote in message ? >>news:1158316788.056323.186190@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  >>> Here is part of  RFC 959:0 >>> G >>> RFC 959                                                     October  >>> 1985 >>> File Transfer Protocol+ >>>         550 Requested action not taken. C >>>             File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access).  >>> 1 >>> Btw. also the HGFTP client sends a 550 error.  >>>  >>> regards Kalle  >>>  >> >>     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:04:08 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: MicroVAX II up on ebay with no bids, 6 hours left, Message-ID: <450D9C28.2FCA40B4@teksavvy.com>   "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: J > I prefer slightly faster hardware, not to mention hardware that's easierF > to get disk drives for!  If my next door neighbor put one out on theG > curb, I would leave it there!  (Unless I thought I could find someone 3 > who would pay me for my trouble in salvaging it.)   H If the unit has a SCSI controller (CMD, DILOG etc), it is easier to find9 disks for it than newer VAXen which want that DSSI thing.   H And in terms of worthless, this particular one is the smaller (mid size)H cabinet. But the large Q5 cabinet can be transformed into a 19" rack andH has a big power distribution panel with a very large capacitor to filter out transients in the power.  I Both would have a usable poower supply with industry standard connectors.   G Both would have a nice collection of screws. When I lost the screw that F fastens my GPS to its bike mount, I couldn't find a replacement at theH hardware store. I found one in the collection of screws from my old LN03( that I took apart to salvage parts from.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:05:24 +0200 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch> Y Subject: Re: Mozilla Thunderbird with VMS (was:Re: VMS MAIL:  Will it ever join the 21st  J Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-675764.00052418092006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  + In article <4n5c1bF8qnvcU1@individual.net>, 5  Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> wrote:   , > On 2006-09-16 22:28, "Hans Bachner" wrote: > 	 > > [...]  > > N > > I would advocate either a port of both Firefox and Thunderbird, or a port L > > of the Seamonkey suite to get an adequate replacement for Mozilla. (I'm L > > not sure how many people use the chat and editor components - imho they J > > are less important, so I'd be happy with Firefox/Thunderbird as well). > J > AFAIK Thunderbird isn't well suited for *offline* use -- there are still@ > people without a DSL (or similar) connection and restricted to' > modem/ISDN use with time-based-fees.   >   E Oh, you are *so* right there. The offline mode is about as good as a  ' chocolate teapot for newsgroup reading.   & > So I'd vote for a port of SeaMonkey.  + How does SeaMonkey differ for dialup users?    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:34:41 GMT @ From: "Schroeder, AJ" <aaron.schroeder-no-spam@tmscomputers.com> Subject: UNZIP Install for VMS? 6 Message-ID: <54kPg.1669$Pa5.857@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>   Hello group,  G I just re-installed OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 onto my PWS and I need the UNZIP  K software. I googled it and I went to DJE Systems UNZIP page and downloaded  L the re-packaged ZIP file and the appropriate stub. When I attempt to append / the stub onto the zip archive I get this error:   , $ COPY SFX_AXP.EXE,UNZU2053.ZIP UNZU2053.EXEK %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (input) and   SYS$S C YSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (output) have incompatible  
 attributesL %COPY-E-WRITEERR, error writing SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.EXE;1 -RMS-F-RSZ, invalid record size C %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 not  
 completely co  pied $   L I downloaded them from the web page (http://www.djesys.com/unzip.html) with / CSWB and followed the instructions. What gives?   % Any help will be appreciated on this.   
 Thank you,  
 AJ Schroeder     ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:39:34 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)# Subject: Re: UNZIP Install for VMS? 2 Message-ID: <06091718393463_20200290@antinode.org>  @ From: "Schroeder, AJ" <aaron.schroeder-no-spam@tmscomputers.com>  I > I just re-installed OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 onto my PWS and I need the UNZIP  M > software. I googled it and I went to DJE Systems UNZIP page and downloaded  4 > the re-packaged ZIP file and the appropriate stub.  E    Personally, I'd just go fetch the source kits and build everything " from them.  Have you a C compiler?         http://www.info-zip.org/(       http://www.info-zip.org/UnZip.html&       http://www.info-zip.org/Zip.html     >  When I attempt to append 1 > the stub onto the zip archive I get this error:  > . > $ COPY SFX_AXP.EXE,UNZU2053.ZIP UNZU2053.EXEL > %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (input) and >  SYS$SE > YSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (output) have incompatible   > attributesN > %COPY-E-WRITEERR, error writing SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.EXE;1! > -RMS-F-RSZ, invalid record size E > %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 not   > completely co  > pied > $   D    Most likely, the various file attributes did not survive the file transfer(s).  N > I downloaded them from the web page (http://www.djesys.com/unzip.html) with 1 > CSWB and followed the instructions. What gives?   B    I don't know, and don't really care much.  If I didn't have a C) compiler, I'd probably follow a link from D "http://www.info-zip.org/UnZip.html" to one of the VMS binary sites,G like "http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/", where I'd try  fetching, for example,> "http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/UNZIP.BCK". F Presumably, this save set's file attributes, too, will be hosed by the@ transfer, but if you put Google to work searching for any of the3 resulting errors, you should get to some place like H "http://antinode.org/dec/sw/fixrec.html", which can lead you out of this particular hole.  G    If this doesn't do it for you, you might offer some info on what you D _can_ do (C compiler, for example), and what you'd like to have when you're done.  3    The source kits include some documentation, too.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:57:15 GMT @ From: "Schroeder, AJ" <aaron.schroeder-no-spam@tmscomputers.com># Subject: Re: UNZIP Install for VMS? 7 Message-ID: <vOoPg.3215$Pa5.2956@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>   8 "Steven M. Schweda" <sms@antinode.org> wrote in message , news:06091718393463_20200290@antinode.org...B > From: "Schroeder, AJ" <aaron.schroeder-no-spam@tmscomputers.com> > I >> I just re-installed OpenVMS Alpha 8.2 onto my PWS and I need the UNZIP C >> software. I googled it and I went to DJE Systems UNZIP page and  
 >> downloaded 5 >> the re-packaged ZIP file and the appropriate stub.  > F >   Personally, I'd just go fetch the source kits and build everything$ > from them.  Have you a C compiler?  8 I have the C compiler on CD - I will have to install it.   >  >      http://www.info-zip.org/ ) >      http://www.info-zip.org/UnZip.html ' >      http://www.info-zip.org/Zip.html  >  >  >>  When I attempt to append2 >> the stub onto the zip archive I get this error: >>/ >> $ COPY SFX_AXP.EXE,UNZU2053.ZIP UNZU2053.EXE J >> %COPY-W-INCOMPAT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (input)  >> and	 >>  SYS$S E >> YSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 (output) have incompatible 
 >> attributes # >> %COPY-E-WRITEERR, error writing  / >> SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.EXE;1 " >> -RMS-F-RSZ, invalid record sizeE >> %COPY-W-NOTCMPLT, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.DOWNLOADS]UNZU2053.ZIP;1 not  >> completely co >> pied  >> $ > E >   Most likely, the various file attributes did not survive the file  > transfer(s). > J >> I downloaded them from the web page (http://www.djesys.com/unzip.html)  >> with 2 >> CSWB and followed the instructions. What gives? > C >   I don't know, and don't really care much.  If I didn't have a C + > compiler, I'd probably follow a link from F > "http://www.info-zip.org/UnZip.html" to one of the VMS binary sites,I > like "http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/", where I'd try  > fetching, for example,? > "http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/UNZIP.BCK". H > Presumably, this save set's file attributes, too, will be hosed by theB > transfer, but if you put Google to work searching for any of the5 > resulting errors, you should get to some place like J > "http://antinode.org/dec/sw/fixrec.html", which can lead you out of this > particular hole. > H >   If this doesn't do it for you, you might offer some info on what youF > _can_ do (C compiler, for example), and what you'd like to have when > you're done.  K I tried to download the save set and sure enough - the file attributes are   jagged. L I also ran the command procedure that antinode has, and that didn't fix the  issue  either.   M I will dig up the CD that has the C ompiler on it and install that so that I   can  build UNZIP from source.   Thank you for the assistance.    > 4 >   The source kits include some documentation, too. > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 4 >   Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org5 >   382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818  >   Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547     ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:28:10 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)# Subject: Re: UNZIP Install for VMS? 2 Message-ID: <06091723281017_20200290@antinode.org>  @ From: "Schroeder, AJ" <aaron.schroeder-no-spam@tmscomputers.com>  : > I have the C compiler on CD - I will have to install it.  '    Once upon a time, it paid to look at E "ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/C-CXX/", but that seems to be dead  now.  M > I tried to download the save set and sure enough - the file attributes are  	 > jagged. N > I also ran the command procedure that antinode has, and that didn't fix the  > issue 	 > either.   B    As usual, disclosing (exactly) what you did, and (exactly) whatG happened then, could be more useful than saying "I tried something, and  it didn't work."  ?    My (old) CNVB.COM procedure was intended to work with a file G downloaded by (binary) FTP, not HTTP, and the resulting file attributes F tend to be different.  I believe that the procedure with the long nameC from the Freeware collection is a bit more versatile.  Otherwise, a H preliminary "set file /attribute = (lrl: 512, rfm: fix)" might align the8 file's attributes with the expectations of my procedure.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.512 ************************