From:	US2RMC::"Mark_E._Elsenheimer@fcbbs.ss.kpmg.com" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 29-JUL-1995 10:28:12.57
To:	open-vms-sig@DECUS.Org
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Subj:	Re: How can I dial out from modem?

Mary M. Chaddock:
We have a modem pool of about 30-something modems.  I need to be able to 
dial out.  I don't think the person who originally installed them set 
them up for dialout access.  

I need to know where would I begin to look to figure out how to dial 
out.  Is there something I need to define in LATCP?  or what command to 
I issue to get to the modem from the VMS machine?  Heck, I might be 
suprised to learn they are set up correctly (gee, wouldn't that be nice).

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I've done this at a client of mine, but I don't have the details at my
fingertips right now (which is my way of making a disclaimer about the
accuracy of the following commands).

The basics are that yes, you setup a LTAxxxx: device that points to the terminal server port with the modem attached:

$ mcr latcp
LATCP> create port LTAxxxx:
LATCP> define port LTAxxxx: /server=yyyy /port=zz
LATCP> exit
$ set term/perm LTAxxxx: /dial /speed=nnnn /vt100
$ set device LTAxxxx: /prot=(w:rwlp)	! read, write, logical I/O, 
					! and physical I/O

As you said, this might already have been done.  Once you know the physical
server and port of your modems, you can "dump" your LATCP port database and
look for matches.

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Some of the "gotcha's" that I've run into are you need to make sure:

1. The modem is configured for dialing out
2. The terminal server and port have proper LAT groups enabled for the target
system you are trying to connect from (groups, user groups, etc. in LATCP and
on the terminal server)
3. You know the proper dialing codes for the type of phone line the modem is
attached to (i.e., dial "9," or dial "8," or whatever)

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Once you have the ports setup, the "cheap" way to connect without Kermit or anything on the VAX is SET HOST/DTE

$ set host /dte LTAxxxx:

that gives you a poor-man's terminal emulator that will let you type to the
modem as if your terminal was connected to the modem directly (more or less).

NOTE!!! If you use SET HOST/DTE, be sure to make a note of the 'escape
character' and/or 'terminate character' to get you out of SET HOST and back to
your local $

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Another thing that can be kind of "handy" depending on your configuration, you
can create a dialout modem service in LAT.

On the Terminal Server:
> define port zz service "DIALOUT"

Depending on the level of paranoia in your shop, you might need to put a password on the service (define port zz password "secret"),
but I've done this in the past too, and I've even been able to use Kermit for
MS-DOS and connect to the dial out service!

MS-Kermit> set port decnet DIALOUT

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As I said at the top, this is one direction to go in, not a by-wrote set of instructions.  If you need more details, I can root around my office
and see if I can find the actual startup command files that I've used
(successfully) before - drop me a line.

Mark Elsenheimer
melsenhe@kpmg.com
KPMG Peat Marwick LLP
Detroit, MI
(aka mark_elsenheimer@ss.kpmg.com)
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