! X-NEWS: spcvxb comp.os.vms: 47863 P Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.1B4+SPC1 6/9/92 VAX/VMS V5.5-2; site spcvxb.spc.edu Path: spcvxb!rutgers!ucla-cs!ucivax!news.service.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!zippy.telcom.arizona.edu!venus.sunquest.com!spades.aces.com!gavron Newsgroups: comp.os.vms . Subject: Re: A new Executive Software story.../ Message-ID: <22APR199306354312@spades.aces.com> + From: peterson@jelly.ky.com (Bill Peterson)  Date: 22 Apr 93 13:35:00 GMT Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM , Sender: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron). References: <735348193.858933.KASHTAN@TGV.COM>  Organization: ACES Research Inc.% NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.sunquest.com ! News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 	 Lines: 93   [ In article <735348193.858933.KASHTAN@TGV.COM>, KASHTAN@TGV.COM (David L. Kashtan) writes... C #I want to alert everyone to some marketing that Executive Software 1 #is now doing that I feel is blatantly dishonest:  # 7 #	I get this message to call "so-and-so" from Executive = #	Software.  I call him and he says that he is from Executive 7 #	Software and that Bill Peterson of KPY recommended me < #	to him because Bill was so happy with Executive Software's: #	product.  So I blow him off and figure I wasted about 10< #	minutes of my life but at least I will never hear from him #	again. # 8 #	A few weeks later the same guy calls -- only this time4 #	the company name (Executive Software) is instantly3 #	recognizable and I throw the message in the trash 2 #	(good -- only 5	seconds out of my life wasted!). # I #Today I am around so I don't get a message slip and take the phone call. I #You guessed it -- he is from Executive Software and Bill Peterson of KPY J #recommended me to him because Bill was so happy with Executive Software'sM #product.  So this time, I ask him who Bill Peterson is and he is "surprised" J #that I don't remember him.  I ask him for Bill Peterson's phone number at #KPY and he gives it to me.  # H #So I call Bill (since he must be some long-lost friend of mine who justH #happens to LOVE Executive Software's stuff).  Well, lo and behold, BillI #DOESN'T KNOW ME.  In fact, Bill has never heard of me before -- but Bill G #sure DOES know Executive Software.  He says "Oh, they must have gotten E #your number off of a list I gave them".  Now I think I understand -- G #I say "I see, your company sold Executive Software a mailing-list that G #I was unfortunate enough to be on".  And he says "No -- we didn't sell H #them a mailing-list, they ONLY PAY US IF THEY MAKE A SALE AFTER CALLING #YOU".  You get the picture: # @ #	My good buddy Bill Peterson isn't really a satisfied Executive? #	Software customer being a pal to me and passing on my name to A #	them so that my life won't have this void in it because I don't  #	use their software.  # A #	He is paid to provide Executive Software with a list of numbers = #	to cold-call so that they can imply that he is a very happy A #	Executive Software customer who recommended that they call you.  # I #So if Executive Software cold-calls you -- you can be sure that good-ole L #Bill was doing you a favor.  If you want to call Executive Software and letD #them know what you think of this kind of deceptive marketing, be myE #guest (though I don't think it would be worth wasting your time on).  # D #On the other hand if Executive Software calls you what you might doE #is tell them you were indeed interested in Disk defragementation and A #I/O caching software but that Bill Peterson at KPY does all your H #software evaluation and that they should talk to him at (408) 734-2564. #You'll be glad you did. #  #David #  #   C David!  David!  I'm surprised you don't remember me!  Bill Peterson A here... No, not KPY but KY.  In fact, my host JELLY.KY.COM is the - system that manages our lubrication facility!   F We met years ago, surely you remember... I sold you those four almost-C new tires and discounted your spark-plug-rotation 50%!  I'm shocked  you don't remember.   I Well I'm no longer in the muffler business, I now help Executive Software J with their products Disktrasher and Disktrasher-killer (Remember, the more> effective your cache, the less you care about fragmentation ;)   Buy Buy Buy Buy Buy!  
 Bill Peterson  -- peterson@jelly.ky.com  peterson@astroglide.ky.com) peterson_b@eisner.dsroberts.decuserve.org   : 	"I am the way and the life and the stairway to Heaven, so* 	 place my name upon your license plates." 						- Mark, II:23   9 	"So come now children of the beast, be Strong, and Shout  	 at the Devil!" 						- M. Crue         * The humor impaired may at this time slowly) disengage their cranial-rectal interfaces , and exhale in the manner known a "laughing." E 